State of the game (Should I re-install?)

AssaultLemming

Hi, I haven't played this game since it went free to play basically because I found that the development of the game became too heavily influenced by the free to play nature of it. I can't remember the specific issues, only that whatever expansion came out I think felt very grindy.

What's the state of the game now please? Would you recommend downloading it again? How is PvP? What is the new PvE content like? Does development feel influenced by the FTP nature of the game?

Thanks in advance for your thoughtful replies.

Kind regards,

Assault Lemming

Daemons_Bane

PvP is not in a great state, but it is playable.. PvE feels great, with lots of stuff to do, and qol improvements.. yes, you can feel that it is influenced by the f2p change but it is still a TES game, and TES fans won't be disappointed

Artorias24

If you come back for PvP then just dont. I cam speak for PC EU and after 5pm cyro is unplayable. Skill delay from 2-3 seconds If they even Work and skills with 0.8 seconds cast time become 5 second cast time. Desync you have never seen before.

Ignoring the Performance in pvp you will come face the worst proc meta. 52k HP warden using 4 procs will apply more pressure then normal stat builds and be immortal cause who can burst 52k HP with heavy armor? Ha, what a Joke.

Coming to Trials, still lots of crashing. Usual 5-10 members per Run. Making progression runs rng based.

You just want to quest overland and casually run normal dungeons? Then you can come back i guess

Daemons_Bane

Artorias24 wrote: »

If you come back for PvP then just dont. I cam speak for PC EU and after 5pm cyro is unplayable. Skill delay from 2-3 seconds If they even Work and skills with 0.8 seconds cast time become 5 second cast time. Desync you have never seen before.

Ignoring the Performance in pvp you will come face the worst proc meta. 52k HP warden using 4 procs will apply more pressure then normal stat builds and be immortal cause who can burst 52k HP with heavy armor? Ha, what a Joke.

Coming to Trials, still lots of crashing. Usual 5-10 members per Run. Making progression runs rng based.

You just want to quest overland and casually run normal dungeons? Then you can come back i guess

As another EU member, I am in disagreement.. I have no issues after 5pm, that did not occur before.. yes there is some lag/delay, but unplayable it is not.. same for trials.. 5-10 crashes pr run, maybe check your computers and internet connections first

nukk3r

It's 20€ for the base game. How is it F2P?

Daemons_Bane

nukk3r wrote: »

It's 20€ for the base game. How is it F2P?

Because before we HAD to subscribe.. but yes, the more precise description is B2P

Sahidom

Its your choice. I wouldn't take anyone who's profile was invited by ZOS_... that promotes the current state of the game, as unbiased. I would wait until the next Update than decide, maybe then they'll have a clear, public announced direction on what their doing with classes, Champion Points, and maybe content creation that expands character builds (not more item sets) over another dungeon or trials.

Artorias24

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Artorias24 wrote: »

If you come back for PvP then just dont. I cam speak for PC EU and after 5pm cyro is unplayable. Skill delay from 2-3 seconds If they even Work and skills with 0.8 seconds cast time become 5 second cast time. Desync you have never seen before.

Ignoring the Performance in pvp you will come face the worst proc meta. 52k HP warden using 4 procs will apply more pressure then normal stat builds and be immortal cause who can burst 52k HP with heavy armor? Ha, what a Joke.

Coming to Trials, still lots of crashing. Usual 5-10 members per Run. Making progression runs rng based.

You just want to quest overland and casually run normal dungeons? Then you can come back i guess

As another EU member, I am in disagreement.. I have no issues after 5pm, that did not occur before.. yes there is some lag/delay, but unplayable it is not.. same for trials.. 5-10 crashes pr run, maybe check your computers and internet connections first

Hihi Sure, cause 8 out of 12 trial member crashing is for sure on the customers end.

I mainly play stamina in cyro with Dizzy Swing and when the cast time jumps from 0.8 seconds to 3. I for sure call this unplayable and unacceptable. Dawnbreaker coming with 4 seconds delay giving my target enough time to ride from brindle to dragonclaw before my DB hits them. Somehow this effects my whole group. Everyone playing from a different country while i am the closest one to mega server.

Sure of you just light and heavy attack inside 20 ppl group lag will not be as notable.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

Pure silliness. The fact is you already own it so you can simply check it out for yourself, which I'm certain you will do anyhow, regardless of any opinions on this thread. Enjoy.

Daemons_Bane

Artorias24 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Artorias24 wrote: »

If you come back for PvP then just dont. I cam speak for PC EU and after 5pm cyro is unplayable. Skill delay from 2-3 seconds If they even Work and skills with 0.8 seconds cast time become 5 second cast time. Desync you have never seen before.

Ignoring the Performance in pvp you will come face the worst proc meta. 52k HP warden using 4 procs will apply more pressure then normal stat builds and be immortal cause who can burst 52k HP with heavy armor? Ha, what a Joke.

Coming to Trials, still lots of crashing. Usual 5-10 members per Run. Making progression runs rng based.

You just want to quest overland and casually run normal dungeons? Then you can come back i guess

As another EU member, I am in disagreement.. I have no issues after 5pm, that did not occur before.. yes there is some lag/delay, but unplayable it is not.. same for trials.. 5-10 crashes pr run, maybe check your computers and internet connections first

Hihi Sure, cause 8 out of 12 trial member crashing is for sure on the customers end.

I mainly play stamina in cyro with Dizzy Swing and when the cast time jumps from 0.8 seconds to 3. I for sure call this unplayable and unacceptable. Dawnbreaker coming with 4 seconds delay giving my target enough time to ride from brindle to dragonclaw before my DB hits them. Somehow this effects my whole group. Everyone playing from a different country while i am the closest one to mega server.

Sure of you just light and heavy attack inside 20 ppl group lag will not be as notable.

That many crashes is not in any way standard.. when we do ours, it's 1-2 crashes on a bad day.. and it's the same story for most people I know.. and yes, I recognize some delay, but nothing that makes it unplayable

Khajiitihaswares

Not much has changed. PvP still an after thought...

Stability is all over the place you either get lucky and have great time or system punts you about making game not worth hassle. Just rolling dice honestly.

Anotherone773

AssaultLemming wrote: »

Hi, I haven't played this game since it went free to play basically because I found that the development of the game became too heavily influenced by the free to play nature of it. I can't remember the specific issues, only that whatever expansion came out I think felt very grindy.

What's the state of the game now please? Would you recommend downloading it again? How is PvP? What is the new PvE content like? Does development feel influenced by the FTP nature of the game?

Thanks in advance for your thoughtful replies.

Kind regards,

Assault Lemming

PVP is very hit and miss depending on who you talk to and what they do in pvp specifically. Also on the system they run. Last Gen consoles don't perform as strongly in open pvp as PC so platform will affect your PVP experience.

I am not sure what you mean by grindy, though i came after 1T( FTP as you call it but its actually Buy To Player). ESO is one of the least grindy mmos to every exist and has very little grind compared to other MMORPGs. Everything is relatively easy to obtain and you don't need the best gear in the game to do all the content in the game. There are only 4 landmark levels, the last one being CP 300. Its very possible to reach that level in less than a month depending on how much you play and how efficient you are but you wont be capable, as player( not a character) to do content at that level anyway without really applying yourself because you wont understand enough about how the game mechanics works.

Development is an year long story arc that includes the release of multiple dungeons, a trial, a large zone, and a small zone, and usually some new added feature like a skill line or class. Chapters are the larger zones and bought and usually cost around $40 at release. DLCs are the smaller zones and are included with a sub or can be bought with crowns( premium currency).

The game does have issues and PVP doesn't get a lot of attention from the devs. If your playing for PVP mostly, youre probably going to be disappointed, If your playing for group PVE, you are probably going to be fine...mostly. If your playing solo and love story time/questing, or love decorating houses, then this game will be your jam.

It really depends on what you are looking for in a game.

Sarannah

Yes, the game is a lot of fun! Welcome back.

Raegwyr

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Artorias24 wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Artorias24 wrote: »

If you come back for PvP then just dont. I cam speak for PC EU and after 5pm cyro is unplayable. Skill delay from 2-3 seconds If they even Work and skills with 0.8 seconds cast time become 5 second cast time. Desync you have never seen before.

Ignoring the Performance in pvp you will come face the worst proc meta. 52k HP warden using 4 procs will apply more pressure then normal stat builds and be immortal cause who can burst 52k HP with heavy armor? Ha, what a Joke.

Coming to Trials, still lots of crashing. Usual 5-10 members per Run. Making progression runs rng based.

You just want to quest overland and casually run normal dungeons? Then you can come back i guess

As another EU member, I am in disagreement.. I have no issues after 5pm, that did not occur before.. yes there is some lag/delay, but unplayable it is not.. same for trials.. 5-10 crashes pr run, maybe check your computers and internet connections first

Hihi Sure, cause 8 out of 12 trial member crashing is for sure on the customers end.

I mainly play stamina in cyro with Dizzy Swing and when the cast time jumps from 0.8 seconds to 3. I for sure call this unplayable and unacceptable. Dawnbreaker coming with 4 seconds delay giving my target enough time to ride from brindle to dragonclaw before my DB hits them. Somehow this effects my whole group. Everyone playing from a different country while i am the closest one to mega server.

Sure of you just light and heavy attack inside 20 ppl group lag will not be as notable.

That many crashes is not in any way standard.. when we do ours, it's 1-2 crashes on a bad day.. and it's the same story for most people I know.. and yes, I recognize some delay, but nothing that makes it unplayable

There are mamy reasons for crashes. Their team probably use frost staves which increase chance of crashing (when we stop using them we went from 20+ crashes during 3h progression to around 5). Still progression of trifecta is currently more rng based then skill based because of the state of the game