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Add Quality of Life changes from new Dailies to old ones too, please.
TheDarkRuler
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Hello daily maniacs of ESO. 
I've recently returned to Wrothgar to complete the achievements for my main chararacter. I am pretty much used to a daily system like Skyrim and Markath and was annoyed as hell when having returned to Wrothgar. Two dailies being handed out in two strongholds that each have no wayshrine remotely close. Also you have to get back to each separate stronghold for returning the quest too.
In Markath you have all four quest givers on one spot and a wayshrine about 5seconds away. Same with Alinor (Summerset), Solitude (Western Skyrim) and so on. I noticed that almost all "old" dailies such as The Gold Coast, Wrothgar do not have those Quality of Life tweaks.
I would love if ZoS would add a tweak for them in the future. Obviously they learned of their mistakes there and made it better in future updates and future dailies. But i think its sad that the old content did not receive the love of the latest regions.
What do you think? Would you like a tweak in the daily system in the old areas?
What would it be like? I would like a) having always a wayshrine close to a quest giver and b) having almost all quest-givers of a zone very close to each other.
//Sry for a perhaps bad english, its not my native language.
Edited by TheDarkRuler on January 12, 2021 7:56PM I've recently returned to Wrothgar to complete the achievements for my main chararacter. I am pretty much used to a daily system like Skyrim and Markath and was annoyed as hell when having returned to Wrothgar. Two dailies being handed out in two strongholds that each have no wayshrine remotely close. Also you have to get back to each separate stronghold for returning the quest too.
In Markath you have all four quest givers on one spot and a wayshrine about 5seconds away. Same with Alinor (Summerset), Solitude (Western Skyrim) and so on. I noticed that almost all "old" dailies such as The Gold Coast, Wrothgar do not have those Quality of Life tweaks.
I would love if ZoS would add a tweak for them in the future. Obviously they learned of their mistakes there and made it better in future updates and future dailies. But i think its sad that the old content did not receive the love of the latest regions.
What do you think? Would you like a tweak in the daily system in the old areas?
What would it be like? I would like a) having always a wayshrine close to a quest giver and b) having almost all quest-givers of a zone very close to each other.
//Sry for a perhaps bad english, its not my native language.
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Sarannah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes I agree! Especially since most players do not play certain regions for months or even years. Which means even experienced players will not be able to find the dailies anymore. Dailies in every zone should be easily findable, preferably near the wayshrine or banker. Or maybe some other preset location, within cities which give dailies. But it should be streamlined.4 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.6 -
Araneae6537✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would just be glad for the rewards to be better! In Summerset and Elsweyr I will at least get a style material and generally an item from an overland set or, even better, a motif. I did both a delve and WB daily in Wrothgar recently and all that I got in one of the reward boxes was a generic weapon.
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mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
I like that. It is a good idea.1 -
Belegnole✭✭✭✭✭instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
5000 crowns please..... lol
Seriously, the idea is great. But there's no way they'd give that away for free.3 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
5000 crowns please..... lol
Seriously, the idea is great. But there's no way they'd give that away for free.
I had thought the same about the crowns. LOL0 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
5000 crowns please..... lol
Seriously, the idea is great. But there's no way they'd give that away for free.
I had thought the same about the crowns. LOL
Hence I specified free. This game has too much overpriced monetization as it is. I'd rather they NOT do this if they're going to charge for it.0 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
5000 crowns please..... lol
Seriously, the idea is great. But there's no way they'd give that away for free.
I had thought the same about the crowns. LOL
Hence I specified free. This game has too much overpriced monetization as it is. I'd rather they NOT do this if they're going to charge for it.
I agree but you know as well as I do that they won't give it for free0 -
Khajiitihaswares✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
5000 crowns please..... lol
Seriously, the idea is great. But there's no way they'd give that away for free.
I had thought the same about the crowns. LOL
Hence I specified free. This game has too much overpriced monetization as it is. I'd rather they NOT do this if they're going to charge for it.
I agree but you know as well as I do that they won't give it for free
Right that is like asking EA to not do loot boxes... I mean surprise mechanics.2 -
TheDarkRuler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thanks alot for the feedback guys. I am glad I am not the only one who is bothered by it.
A crown store assistant would be a possible solution although I am not rly fond of it. What would it be like then? If you have him with you, you can ask for quests that would normally be handed out by daily questgivers in the area? And would you also be able to return it to him? I would link that to having fulfilled like 10 dailies for an NPC to unlock the shortcut on the crown NPC.
Alternatively I'd like if you have a second NPC to accept/deliver quests in each area. E.g. a blackboard for Gold Coast delves at Kvatch marketplace, a boss quest-NPC in the Morkul stronghold in Wrothgar and so on. The NPC that unlocks after Murkmire main quest should also have a represenative at the normal daily location in the area. That way each player can pick "their" place to go to.
Also a few places could benefit from having a wayshrine right in front of it (e.g. Morkul Stronghold), Prologue repetitive quests (e.g. Elsweyr is a pain).0 -
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✭✭instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Bad idea.. It would empty out towns even more, and make it harder to form groups for dailies2 -
TheDarkRuler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Bad idea.. It would empty out towns even more, and make it harder to form groups for dailies
How would it do that? Do you actually go to a player and direct message them? From what I know most people just use zone chat.0 -
hafgood✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes to maybe moving quest givers to be next to each other.
No to the crown store assistant, its not needed just travel to the npcs in the game, thats what they are there for0 -
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✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »I would just be glad for the rewards to be better! In Summerset and Elsweyr I will at least get a style material and generally an item from an overland set or, even better, a motif. I did both a delve and WB daily in Wrothgar recently and all that I got in one of the reward boxes was a generic weapon.
Exactly! I was just going to post this when reading the OP. Wrothgar dailies suck as far as rewards. Unless you are lucky to get a style page, all you do get is a blue generic armor/weapon. Not even a style mat. I never do these dailies unless it's during the Orsinium event or the Anniversary event.0 -
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The locations are small, aren't they?TheDarkRuler wrote: »Two dailies being handed out in two strongholds that each have no wayshrine remotely close.0 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Bad idea.. It would empty out towns even more, and make it harder to form groups for dailies
How would it do that? Do you actually go to a player and direct message them? From what I know most people just use zone chat.
If you can get the dailies from your house, how many do you think would travel to the towns.? So I would very much assume that it would empty out the towns0 -
phantasmalD✭✭✭✭✭One QoL change I'd not mind seeing implemented is applying the dolmen system from Western Skyrim to the older dolmen dailies, only having to do one is just so much less tedious.
Tho tbh it's mostly just the Summerset dailies that are plagued with tedium; the original ones have a clear pattern and are laughably easy compared to today's standard and the only problem of dragons is that NE wayshrines suck.
And the problem with Summerset isn't even really that you have to do 3, but that you have to find which ones are active. But only having to do one would be a start, even if it means the difficulty is increased.
Also, on a similar note, can we finally buff Spencer Rye's dailies (Hew's Bane), it's been almost five years of literal worthlessness. Why are these dailies if he doesn't give you some kind of reward coffer.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Several seem to like this idea. Problem is if you are not in the zone good chance you are not getting a group together. Other problem (for me anyway) is it takes away from players being at or near the turn in sights. I like seeing a populated world. Being able to accept quests in home reduces the number of people out and about.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."2 -
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✭Wrothgar is a fairly old zone compared to summerset and Markath so yea it's obvioou that zos have made improvements.
Hopefully they will add a couple of closer wayshrines in wrothgar to benefit those doing the dailies plus it would be great for the wrothgar event too.
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✭✭✭✭✭instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Pickup is fine but drop-off should remain the same to encourage people to go to towns0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Bad idea.. It would empty out towns even more, and make it harder to form groups for dailies
How would it do that? Do you actually go to a player and direct message them? From what I know most people just use zone chat.
Yes. And you cannot see the zone chat if you're not in your house. Most read in town or while heading over to next objective, not while doing the content.0 -
TheDarkRuler✭✭✭✭✭
✭spartaxoxo wrote: »TheDarkRuler wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Bad idea.. It would empty out towns even more, and make it harder to form groups for dailies
How would it do that? Do you actually go to a player and direct message them? From what I know most people just use zone chat.
Yes. And you cannot see the zone chat if you're not in your house. Most read in town or while heading over to next objective, not while doing the content.
Never said something about a house NPC. I meant a companion that travels with you.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
5000 crowns please..... lol
Seriously, the idea is great. But there's no way they'd give that away for free.
I had thought the same about the crowns. LOL
Hence I specified free. This game has too much overpriced monetization as it is. I'd rather they NOT do this if they're going to charge for it.
personaly, i would love it if it was awarded as part of an achievement of some sort. and... please bear with me here - new daily locations become accessible from the liaison after you complete them at least once in a wild. so say you have never done any dailies in summerset - Liaison will not offer them. you go to Summerset and do the available dailies there at least once? and now you can pick any subsequent once from liaison. the menu would be separated by zones, so you basically select a zone from a list and that selection leads to a list of dailies to pick up.
Alternately - furnishings that have to either be earned via achievement and sold at specific zone achievement vendor, or possibly dug up with antiquities. think - hanging map furnishings right now. they will look like crafting writ daily stands, but with corresponding zone map to be able to tell which one and you can place them all in a house, much like attuned crafting stations.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***0 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »TheDarkRuler wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Bad idea.. It would empty out towns even more, and make it harder to form groups for dailies
How would it do that? Do you actually go to a player and direct message them? From what I know most people just use zone chat.
Yes. And you cannot see the zone chat if you're not in your house. Most read in town or while heading over to next objective, not while doing the content.
Never said something about a house NPC. I meant a companion that travels with you.
Not everything has to do with your original post.. a housing assistant got mentioned, so some of us spoke against that idea0 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »TheDarkRuler wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Bad idea.. It would empty out towns even more, and make it harder to form groups for dailies
How would it do that? Do you actually go to a player and direct message them? From what I know most people just use zone chat.
Yes. And you cannot see the zone chat if you're not in your house. Most read in town or while heading over to next objective, not while doing the content.
Never said something about a house NPC. I meant a companion that travels with you.
Still the same problems. You need to be in the correct zone to find a group and it takes away reasons to visit the location of the quest givers making the world appear more empty.
Not everything is by a wayshrine by design. Gives up reason to be out and about in the world.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭instead of changing up the overland portion of the game moving wayshrines and quest givers, there's another way they could do this:
A free housing assistant who helps manage our lives as adventurers by serving as a daily quest giver liaison. In order for them to serve as such a liaison, the character would have had to visit the region or meet any quest pre-requisites, but all the daily quests could be activated from this assistant otherwise. Potentially, the quests could be turned in to this assistant as well, or they could be turned in at their original locations.
Several seem to like this idea. Problem is if you are not in the zone good chance you are not getting a group together. Other problem (for me anyway) is it takes away from players being at or near the turn in sights. I like seeing a populated world. Being able to accept quests in home reduces the number of people out and about.
This is a good consideration! For community purposes, having a shortcut to daily quest acceptance and turn-in would be a detriment.0