Reached fishing limit

Djennku

Today I learned there is a limit to how much you can actually fish up. The past 4-5 days I've been doing nothing but fishing for achievements. During this time, I completed 12 in game zones.

Things were going fine until yesterday, when I slowly stopped getting any kind of blue trophy fish, and rarely a green one. I went through over 1k of the filletable white fish and only got around 20 green and 1-3 blue. Today I stopped getting any kind of blue fish, and hardly see any green. I went through 3 straight holes without seeing any green at one point.

It is clearly not RNG when I am getting a consistent amount of different fish for a few days, and then almost nothing the last two. It's frustrating for me to be putting all that work in on trying for achievements, then finding out there's a cap.


Just wanted to share my story here and see if anyone else has had this happen to them.

hafgood

You just described RNG. Going multiple holes with no greens isn't uncommon. If anything your RNG was better than average to start and has dropped to its more normal level.

When I ran into a bad spell in any particular zone I'd swap zones and try my luck elsewhere. And sometimes that last fish in a zone just won't drop.

All you can do is persevere and the fish will eventually appear.

VaranisArano

There's a fishing limit? Huh, did not know that.

Out of curiosity, are you using the Artaeum Pickled Fish Bowl for the better chance/variety of green and blue fish?

Sylvermynx

I ran four characters for Master Angler in 2019. Each of them had periods (sometimes as long as a week) where they never got green or blue fish. RNG is a reality.

I would swap from one character to another, change zones, do something else for a while. Eventually things got back to "normal".

ImmortalCX

hafgood wrote: »

You just described RNG. Going multiple holes with no greens isn't uncommon. If anything your RNG was better than average to start and has dropped to its more normal level.

When I ran into a bad spell in any particular zone I'd swap zones and try my luck elsewhere. And sometimes that last fish in a zone just won't drop.

All you can do is persevere and the fish will eventually appear.

No, it is not "just RNG".

There may be factors besides RNG that govern in-game drops.

hafgood

Yes it is just RNG.

There may be other factors that affect that RNG but its still RNG.

Danikat

I know Guild Wars 2 will do this. They have a system they call 'diminishing returns' which means if you do the same thing over and over and over you'll reach a cut-off point where you stop getting the main rewards, and eventually you'll stop getting anything at all. It's designed as a last resort against bots but also to discourage players from just sitting in one farming spot or just doing the same world boss or whatever all the time and encourage them to mix it up a bit.

So it can be done, but as far as I'm aware ESO doesn't do anything like that, certainly not to discourage farming one area so it would be very odd for them to do it specifically for fishing.

I also agree that 3 fishing holes isn't enough to be sure it's not just a normal streak of bad luck thanks to RNG.

If you just want to fix the problem I suggest doing some other activities on that character, then go back to fishing tomorrow and see if it's still happening.

If you want to try and prove the hypothesis that there's a limit on how many blue/green fish you can get in a short period then keep fishing until you've gone through enough holes to be statistically significant (as many as possible, but probably 10 or so would be enough) actually recording the drops you get, because confirmation bias will absolutely be in play. Then after doing that go and do something else on the character for a while and then repeat the process - fish the same number of holes (ideally the same exact ones) also recording all of the drops so you can compare the two and see exactly what difference it makes.

barney2525

I dunno. I think you are over reacting. Just getting the Auridon achievement, I got all 4 river fish from one hole ... yet it took over 500 worms for the 4 salt water fish. It comes and goes. Sometimes I have started fishing and gone 5 consecutive holes without a single trophy fish. Sometimes I get 2 or 3 from one hole.

It sux.

But I really think its RNG when one of my characters does things in a reasonable time and another uses up 3 times as much bait.

IMHO

zaria

Danikat wrote: »

I know Guild Wars 2 will do this. They have a system they call 'diminishing returns' which means if you do the same thing over and over and over you'll reach a cut-off point where you stop getting the main rewards, and eventually you'll stop getting anything at all. It's designed as a last resort against bots but also to discourage players from just sitting in one farming spot or just doing the same world boss or whatever all the time and encourage them to mix it up a bit.

So it can be done, but as far as I'm aware ESO doesn't do anything like that, certainly not to discourage farming one area so it would be very odd for them to do it specifically for fishing.

I also agree that 3 fishing holes isn't enough to be sure it's not just a normal streak of bad luck thanks to RNG.

If you just want to fix the problem I suggest doing some other activities on that character, then go back to fishing tomorrow and see if it's still happening.

If you want to try and prove the hypothesis that there's a limit on how many blue/green fish you can get in a short period then keep fishing until you've gone through enough holes to be statistically significant (as many as possible, but probably 10 or so would be enough) actually recording the drops you get, because confirmation bias will absolutely be in play. Then after doing that go and do something else on the character for a while and then repeat the process - fish the same number of holes (ideally the same exact ones) also recording all of the drops so you can compare the two and see exactly what difference it makes.

ESO has an cooldown on dwemer motif pages who drop from dwemer containers in their ruins.
Think it was impleneted back then they started dropping an people did an fighter guild solo quest instance over and over by canceling the quest. This was before one tamriel and especially AD players had few places to farm them.
Probably other too, however don't think they have any on fishing

agentpixi

I've been trying to catch the hag fen hagfish for the last four months. The only fish left in DC i need and I can't catch it at all.