Mounts are generally useless

LalMirchi

I run around and do important stuff on my main characters, nowhere do I need my mount for this except for tiny time-savings.

My forager runs with Swift and the Ring of the Wild Hunt. No mount required and no dismounting for mat drops

On the others I just jump around with WayShrines for quests.

In Cyrodiil however I needed a mount on every character.

I will hopefully come back to Cyrodiil the "Riding Simulation" later but the game does not motivate me to do so.

As it stands the mount is superfluous in most of my game activities.

VaranisArano

I recall my PVE only days when I deliberately kept my guar mount at a stately gait of 20 speed. It looked very dignified.

Then I tried Cyrodiil, realized that 20 speed was NOT going to cut it, and now my guar runs like a sprinting chicken.

SeaGtGruff

I have always preferred to run around on my own two feet in ESO-- as well as in all of the other TES games that have mounts (with the exception of Daggerfall, which I haven't played yet).

It isn't that I feel mounts aren't fast enough to make a difference. In the single-player TES games, mounts seem awkward to me as far as maneuverability and steering, whereas mounts in ESO seem easier by comparison for me to handle. But I find it difficult to ride very far before I see something I want to harvest or fight, so I'm constantly mounting and dismounting, and it ends up being simpler to just run around on foot.

Sgrug

LalMirchi wrote: »

I run around and do important stuff on my main characters, nowhere do I need my mount for this except for tiny time-savings.

My forager runs with Swift and the Ring of the Wild Hunt. No mount required and no dismounting for mat drops

On the others I just jump around with WayShrines for quests.

In Cyrodiil however I needed a mount on every character.

I will hopefully come back to Cyrodiil the "Riding Simulation" later but the game does not motivate me to do so.

As it stands the mount is superfluous in most of my game activities.

Unless you waited a very long time to join (joined just last month?) You do no appreciate mounts enough possibly because you are new to the game?. Doing survey writs, Mounts save a HUGE amount of time, doing the new life quests on 8 alts took me 4 to 5 hours, without full speed mounts I would not have finished the 80 quests in one day.

Ryuvain

Never liked the concept of mounts since it feels like an old mmo idea. Skyrim didn't change that either since khajiit could run fast as vampire werewolf hybrid. If she needed more speed then either transformation would suffice.

Man this one misses Skyrim combat and vampire/werewolf.

GreenhaloX

Sure, probably so when you just started a new toon until the mount reached level 20 speed and at least 10 stamina. Otherwise, it is very useful. It is the convenient of getting somewhere faster, or getting to a node or chest faster than another on foot . Throw rapid or Charging Maneuver on with mount's full speed and stamina, and you're faster than the wind. It is also very useful when you're on skyshards or mage lorebooks hunt.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

I love my different mounts. They add flavor to my characters and to the game. Often I don't even run when on them. I walk while mounted. It's an excellent way to take in the scenery and admire other peoples characters. But I'm fortunate because I'm not in any rush whatsoever.

Jeremy

LalMirchi wrote: »

I run around and do important stuff on my main characters, nowhere do I need my mount for this except for tiny time-savings.

My forager runs with Swift and the Ring of the Wild Hunt. No mount required and no dismounting for mat drops

On the others I just jump around with WayShrines for quests.

In Cyrodiil however I needed a mount on every character.

I will hopefully come back to Cyrodiil the "Riding Simulation" later but the game does not motivate me to do so.

As it stands the mount is superfluous in most of my game activities.

It's having to constantly mount/dismount that turns me off from mounts on this game. They're good if you need to get from point A to point B asap, but for routine exploring they're usually more trouble than they are worth.

I wish they would let you just stay on your mount while fighting and gathering on the landscape.

Scardan

Your headline is that the mounts in the game are generally useless and you explain this by the fact that you personally don't need them. Friend, I have 60 speed 60 stamina mount and no need for Ring of the Wild Hunt. So, what is next? Ring is generally useless?
We have a choice of what to use and that's good. And don't forget that mages cannot run as long as a mount.

EvilAutoTech

Mounts can't run as long as my Vampblade.

Sgrug

EvilAutoTech wrote: »

Mounts can't run as long as my Vampblade.

That just proves vampires still need nerfed.

Sgrug

Scardan wrote: »

Your headline is that the mounts in the game are generally useless and you explain this by the fact that you personally don't need them. Friend, I have 60 speed 60 stamina mount and no need for Ring of the Wild Hunt. So, what is next? Ring is generally useless?
We have a choice of what to use and that's good. And don't forget that mages cannot run as long as a mount.

Also seems everyone forgets mounts add bag space, guess bag space is useless too?

Araneae6537

On my main who does survey collection, antiquities and other things, I often do travel on foot because it is plenty fast with Ring of the Hunt and I collect most nodes and chests I come across. But I do rely on my mount when I need to join people for a wb or other event. Then too, if you really want to get somewhere fast on your mount, you need Rapid Maneuver!

Silaf

Well i don't think somthing need too be useful to have value otherwise we wolden't be playing a game in the first place.

Starlock

I'm in a similar situation, @LalMirchi - mounts have little point to them other than expanding bag space or for aesthetics. And both of those have been so heavily monetized or time-gated that it's just ridiculous. They're also somewhat useful for getting to overland group events "on time" so they are not done by the time you get there, but that's not really a big deal. I don't care about PvP, and that's the only map where the distances to cross are so vast you'd want a mount.

But we're not supposed to think they are relatively useless or realize they are relatively useless. We're supposed to spend $30 on a single mount and perhaps $100 on riding lessons... over and over with no spending limit! You want mounts because you want to give ZoS money!

idk

So OP gears for speed instead of damage. Their opinion on mounts is based on a specific build that is worthless in many situations as it does not build for damage as many of us do.

Oh, and OP does a solid contradiction as they do state a mount is needed in Cyrodiil. As such it seems they are not traveling far, or in much of a hurry, outside of Cyrodiil.

So in the end, mounts are useful.

etchedpixels

Cowards gear, rapids, and the ring of the wild hunt combo do kind of make anything else pointless unless ZoS decide to introduce rockets.

On the other hand - mounts are available easily at lower levels, you can wear a chosen 5/5/2 combo with a mount and they look better. Depends what you are doing. For PvE though wild hunt is a winner, to the point that it's becoming a problem in dungeons because you keep getting groups where 2 or 3 of the group are running the ring and nobody can keep up.

Araneae6537

etchedpixels wrote: »

Cowards gear, rapids, and the ring of the wild hunt combo do kind of make anything else pointless unless ZoS decide to introduce rockets.

On the other hand - mounts are available easily at lower levels, you can wear a chosen 5/5/2 combo with a mount and they look better. Depends what you are doing. For PvE though wild hunt is a winner, to the point that it's becoming a problem in dungeons because you keep getting groups where 2 or 3 of the group are running the ring and nobody can keep up.

Wow, I would not wear the ring in a dungeon unless in a premade group where the plan was to do so. Else, that is more than rude and the people wearing it have sacrificed a set that would enable them to better do their job so instead they can avoid doing their job and leave the group to deal with it.

The ring is not the problem, but the people doing this, and they’d probably be quite a “joy” to run with even without it.

Thankfully, I’ve not run into this; most groups are considerate and even those who like to run through as much as possible are only going at mortal speed so I can keep up. Even that is not my preferred way to run a dungeon but I do my best to be adaptive when PUGging.

Tremuto

Yeah, no I'm not running from Point A to Point B on my Magicka characters. Not even the Wild Hunt ring can make that fun to do.

FrancisCrawford

Even my stamblade thief with infinite stealth sustain, Ring of the WIld Hunt, and overall 3x Swift rides occasionally.

My other characters ride a lot.

EvilAutoTech

etchedpixels wrote: »

Cowards gear, rapids, and the ring of the wild hunt combo do kind of make anything else pointless unless ZoS decide to introduce rockets.

On the other hand - mounts are available easily at lower levels, you can wear a chosen 5/5/2 combo with a mount and they look better. Depends what you are doing. For PvE though wild hunt is a winner, to the point that it's becoming a problem in dungeons because you keep getting groups where 2 or 3 of the group are running the ring and nobody can keep up.

If you're running coward's, you don't need rapids. They both provide major expedition so it doesn't stack.

I run coward's with darkstride, 3 swift jewelry and the steed mundus. She can run just about forever at stage 4 vampirism and recovers her stamina when she stops to harvest mats. I can't remember the last time she was on her mount.

I would never use her in group content. She's just a scavenger, thief and assassin.

LalMirchi

idk wrote: »

So OP gears for speed instead of damage. Their opinion on mounts is based on a specific build that is worthless in many situations as it does not build for damage as many of us do..

One of many alts friend. My Forager as stated, she kills from 35m and is always 1st to the treasure chest

Oh, and OP does a solid contradiction as they do state a mount is needed in Cyrodiil. As such it seems they are not traveling far, or in much of a hurry, outside of Cyrodiil.

So in the end, mounts are useful.

Unfortunately no, speed is good, mounts are not as useful except for the beautiful Cyrodiil.

Perhaps we can agree to disagree?

zaria

Araneae6537 wrote: »

On my main who does survey collection, antiquities and other things, I often do travel on foot because it is plenty fast with Ring of the Hunt and I collect most nodes and chests I come across. But I do rely on my mount when I need to join people for a wb or other event. Then too, if you really want to get somewhere fast on your mount, you need Rapid Maneuver!

Yes, rapid works perfectly with mounts, its not very practical without, also magic characters can not sprint far.

SeaGtGruff

Sgrug wrote: »

Scardan wrote: »

Your headline is that the mounts in the game are generally useless and you explain this by the fact that you personally don't need them. Friend, I have 60 speed 60 stamina mount and no need for Ring of the Wild Hunt. So, what is next? Ring is generally useless?
We have a choice of what to use and that's good. And don't forget that mages cannot run as long as a mount.

Also seems everyone forgets mounts add bag space, guess bag space is useless too?

I was just going to mention Carrying Capacity and Stamina as two important features of mounts in addition to Speed. Even though I typically walk or run everywhere, because of the near-constant mounting and dismounting-- unless I want to get to some destination as fast as possible, in which case I ride-- I'd hate to be without the extra inventory space that mounts add, and being able to use up your mount's Stamina instead of your own lets most players ride fast for longer than they can run fast, and arrive at a fight with their own Stamina fully stocked instead of fully depleted.

Kiralyn2000

Starlock wrote: »

I'm in a similar situation, @LalMirchi - mounts have little point to them other than expanding bag space or for aesthetics. And both of those have been so heavily monetized or time-gated that it's just ridiculous.

Oh my. Time gates in an MMO. Who would have thought. /shocked

/s

/eyeroll

But we're not supposed to think they are relatively useless or realize they are relatively useless. We're supposed to spend $30 on a single mount and perhaps $100 on riding lessons...

No one is "supposed" to spend $100 on riding lessons unless they're swimming in cash and have an amazingly huge case of Instant Gratification Is Too Slow For Me. I find the idea that anyone spends money on those stupid books to be mind-boggling. Let alone that anyone would think it's required. Definitely feels like a case of looking for things to be offended by.

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Yeah, I have characters in medium armor with all sorts of speed boosts. And I collect lots of stuff. I still find myself riding my mount quite a bit. So, yeah. Don't seem useless at all.

idk

Tremuto wrote: »

Yeah, no I'm not running from Point A to Point B on my Magicka characters. Not even the Wild Hunt ring can make that fun to do.

It is wise, and faster, to use a mount with the DB passive. With the build OP uses one has to be careful not to draw agro of the max speed is reduced.

Girl_Number8

I hope they add more mounts that are different animals than we currently have

Faiza

I don't even play my alts until they have maxed riding speed, and a good amount of stamina trained. I could not disagree with this more, haha.

LalMirchi

Faiza wrote: »

I don't even play my alts until they have maxed riding speed, and a good amount of stamina trained. I could not disagree with this more, haha.

I agree, as each playstyle is up to the player and the chosen role.

I am talking about one alt who runs very fast and is good dps at range. Runs around faster than a botomatmous and can do quite a few surveys in a few minutes with a few hundreds of sweet materials in the bag, later to be refined

Other alts take other roles, perhaps a tank or healer as I don't need another runner?

I for one only max out capacity for my alts, the rest is really gravy in a way.

FlopsyPrince

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I have always preferred to run around on my own two feet in ESO-- as well as in all of the other TES games that have mounts (with the exception of Daggerfall, which I haven't played yet).

It isn't that I feel mounts aren't fast enough to make a difference. In the single-player TES games, mounts seem awkward to me as far as maneuverability and steering, whereas mounts in ESO seem easier by comparison for me to handle. But I find it difficult to ride very far before I see something I want to harvest or fight, so I'm constantly mounting and dismounting, and it ends up being simpler to just run around on foot.

That is how you increase the odds of finding something to harvest! Nothing will usually be there if you just run, but something will pop up right in front of you if you mount up, sometimes AS your are mounting up!

Tryxus

Why ride when you can outrun everything?