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Am I the Only One Who Secretly Hopes...
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭I would like. But it's not ESO2.
No way sadly. Seems it is some kind of scifi mmo.
ESO has been a very good game between TESV and TESVI.
No way ESO2 will release with TESVI on the horizon.
Maybe in the year 2030+
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Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That would be by definition not a new IP.
Whatever it is, it will also not release for a long time. Consider that ESO was in development for 7-8 years.
But out of curiosity, where would you set ESO2?
I think I would increase the scale and lower the geographic area. There's no point developing all of Tamriel from the get go again, that can't compete with ESO1 anyway. Just limit yourself to say, a corner of Cyrodiil, where you can feasibly encounter all races. Some time after Tiber's death in the 3rd era maybe. PvP could be centered around several arenas in cities. And for Phynaster's sake, no classes.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.2 -
Muttsmutt✭✭✭✭✭"ESO2" is a horrible idea.
ESO redux would be more warranted.
due to the scope of the game, ESO encompasses a lore-coherent POV, which would need be duplicated for ESO2, thus delivering a product of too much similarity for players to bother with. there is only one succesful instance of this- left 4 dead 2- which duped left 4 dead 1 and improved upon it, yet provided more content as well.
i don't see this happening with ESO2 though, due to the static nature of the geographical constraints of tamriel, as well as the already critical-mass playerbase that would be uprooted were they to be forced to restart with a new release- something that wasn't a problem for, say, DOTA 2; yet was a problem for league of legends- which has, essentially, completely reworked the game, relative to its state, say, 7 years ago- which would have warranted a league of legends 2, yet the player uproot factor would have been too much.
ESO redux would make more sense, this case, given the size of the playerbase and the effort they've put into their progress. a healthy approach would be a ground-up rework of the game's engine, which would maintain player progression, game setting, and existing content- yet deliver it with more modern systems and performance. perhaps also adding additional overland content- as well as reworking the state it is currently in, to offer broader challenge and a more dynamic experience.
would this constitute an "ESO2"?
perhaps, but only from an upgrade standpoint- which does not warrant resetting player progress by re-releasing as a new title, as that would drive player opinion and incentive down; while a rework of old content would incentivize players to re-play it, thus increase playtime.
as for marketing stuff, it could easily pass as a rebranding, like one tamriel, but of greater scope.
would there be issues with players bemoaning the loss of old content that would have to be reworked and thus take a different form? yes, of course. is that a worthwhile sacrifice, in order to get significant net gains in player satisfaction from the higher quality of the reworked content? absolutely.
an ESO redux project would make sense to be started NOW- as it would likely require at least five years of active and parallel development with current ESO- where each new chapter and DLC is simultaneously developed both for the current state of the game, and for the reworked state- of course, once the base system reworks have been established.
it would ensure the continuity of the TES IP in the MMO genre- which, lets be honest, would, and is, decreasing in presence as the years go by and as ESO's performance continues to degrade by modern standards, as its age begins to show.
there's only so much they can keep taping onto a dated and rickety framework, until it collapses.
get the new framework under development ASAP so that you are ready to pass players onto it before the old one collapses.
or face the death of the TES IP in the MMO genre. which i'd hate to see. i enjoy ESO. i want to play ESO for decades.
future-proof it, ZOS.Edited by Muttsmutt on December 15, 2020 1:57PMPC-EU // UNDEAD10 -
Husan✭✭✭✭✭As much as I would like to see a rewrite of some (or even all of the code) to make ESO work properly - whether it's called ESO - it's never going to happen. It's naive to expect anything to change at this point. As several others have stated any rewrites of the code take 4-5 years or evn up to a decade and by then this game will be forgotten and left behind for better things that are appearing on the horizon after a long drought in the MMO scene. New world is coming soon, and even Ashes of Creation is due to release before any code could feasably be rewritten for ESO. In addition, it's safe to say that TES:6 game will compete for the attention of many current ESO players as well.
What is actually reasonable to expect is the following: there are several more DLCs and expansions already in development, and they will keep getting released regurarly until the release of TES:6. Now we are taking a stroll down memory lane with oblivion and maybe next on the list is nostalgia boogaloo 2: shivering islands. Because nostalgia sells (Greymoore = Skyrim = most sold expansion) playerbase will remain high enough to get good sale numbers and everything will culminate with the last expansion that will bring us to the story of TES:6 and maximize the hype. And then we move on to TES:6 and await the next big title.1 -
BXR_Lonestar✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would like. But it's not ESO2.
No way sadly. Seems it is some kind of scifi mmo.
ESO has been a very good game between TESV and TESVI.
No way ESO2 will release with TESVI on the horizon.
Maybe in the year 2030+
Its going to be Fallout Online. Would fit the bill for a Sci-fi Online. Fallout 76 is kind of in the mold of an MMO, but not quite. I can see them trying to adapt that game to be more like ESO, but in a Fallout game universe.1 -
Starlight_Whisper✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would like. But it's not ESO2.
No way sadly. Seems it is some kind of scifi mmo.
ESO has been a very good game between TESV and TESVI.
No way ESO2 will release with TESVI on the horizon.
Maybe in the year 2030+
It's highly doubtful it will do well.Edited by Starlight_Whisper on December 15, 2020 4:17PM0 -
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Araneae6537✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don’t want an ESO2 but rather continued additions and improvements in ESO, please. It is still a beautiful game and unlike any other MMO’s out there.3 -
asuitandtyb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭As much as I would like to see a rewrite of some (or even all of the code) to make ESO work properly - whether it's called ESO - it's never going to happen. It's naive to expect anything to change at this point. As several others have stated any rewrites of the code take 4-5 years or evn up to a decade and by then this game will be forgotten and left behind for better things that are appearing on the horizon after a long drought in the MMO scene. New world is coming soon, and even Ashes of Creation is due to release before any code could feasably be rewritten for ESO. In addition, it's safe to say that TES:6 game will compete for the attention of many current ESO players as well.
What is actually reasonable to expect is the following: there are several more DLCs and expansions already in development, and they will keep getting released regurarly until the release of TES:6. Now we are taking a stroll down memory lane with oblivion and maybe next on the list is nostalgia boogaloo 2: shivering islands. Because nostalgia sells (Greymoore = Skyrim = most sold expansion) playerbase will remain high enough to get good sale numbers and everything will culminate with the last expansion that will bring us to the story of TES:6 and maximize the hype. And then we move on to TES:6 and await the next big title.
I hate to be the one to inform you, but AoC is a scam. New Worlds looks promising. Unfortunately, I don't think many people will give ZoS another chance with TES. They messed it up so badly in so many ways, it's near Funcom levels of irredeemable.3 -
Cireous✭✭✭✭✭
✭We have Elder Scrolls Online, we have Falllout 76.
The only other current IP for Bethesda is Starfield. What else could it possibly be than a Starfield MMO, which will come out a few years after Starfield, much like ESO came out a few years after Skyrim.
I think Elder Scrolls 2, if it's ever a thing, is a long way off.0 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would like. But it's not ESO2.
No way sadly. Seems it is some kind of scifi mmo.
ESO has been a very good game between TESV and TESVI.
No way ESO2 will release with TESVI on the horizon.
Maybe in the year 2030+
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VampireLordLover99✭✭✭✭asuitandtyb14_ESO wrote: »As much as I would like to see a rewrite of some (or even all of the code) to make ESO work properly - whether it's called ESO - it's never going to happen. It's naive to expect anything to change at this point. As several others have stated any rewrites of the code take 4-5 years or evn up to a decade and by then this game will be forgotten and left behind for better things that are appearing on the horizon after a long drought in the MMO scene. New world is coming soon, and even Ashes of Creation is due to release before any code could feasably be rewritten for ESO. In addition, it's safe to say that TES:6 game will compete for the attention of many current ESO players as well.
What is actually reasonable to expect is the following: there are several more DLCs and expansions already in development, and they will keep getting released regurarly until the release of TES:6. Now we are taking a stroll down memory lane with oblivion and maybe next on the list is nostalgia boogaloo 2: shivering islands. Because nostalgia sells (Greymoore = Skyrim = most sold expansion) playerbase will remain high enough to get good sale numbers and everything will culminate with the last expansion that will bring us to the story of TES:6 and maximize the hype. And then we move on to TES:6 and await the next big title.
I hate to be the one to inform you, but AoC is a scam. New Worlds looks promising. Unfortunately, I don't think many people will give ZoS another chance with TES. They messed it up so badly in so many ways, it's near Funcom levels of irredeemable.
AoC isn't a scam, where's your proof on that? The main guy funded the game with millions out of his own pocket. And everything has been transparent thus far. Development is going steady. They post regular update videos showcasing progress. Where's the scam part?
Don't make claims you can't back up.Edited by VampireLordLover99 on December 15, 2020 6:28PM0 -
XxCaLxX✭✭✭✭✭Despite what salty ppl say ESO is not dying and will last many many more years so an ESO2 isn't a possibility in my mind.3 -
dcam86b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭As much as I would like to see a rewrite of some (or even all of the code) to make ESO work properly - whether it's called ESO - it's never going to happen. It's naive to expect anything to change at this point. As several others have stated any rewrites of the code take 4-5 years or evn up to a decade and by then this game will be forgotten and left behind for better things that are appearing on the horizon after a long drought in the MMO scene. New world is coming soon, and even Ashes of Creation is due to release before any code could feasably be rewritten for ESO. In addition, it's safe to say that TES:6 game will compete for the attention of many current ESO players as well.
What is actually reasonable to expect is the following: there are several more DLCs and expansions already in development, and they will keep getting released regurarly until the release of TES:6. Now we are taking a stroll down memory lane with oblivion and maybe next on the list is nostalgia boogaloo 2: shivering islands. Because nostalgia sells (Greymoore = Skyrim = most sold expansion) playerbase will remain high enough to get good sale numbers and everything will culminate with the last expansion that will bring us to the story of TES:6 and maximize the hype. And then we move on to TES:6 and await the next big title.
No way that AOC or NW will be able to compete with an established IP/playerbase. They may get a few ESO /wow/gw2 etc players but they won't retain many with the way their pvp and early handling of their monetization is going.
If people believe those will be the nail in the coffin for ESO they are going to be sadly disappointed.0 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭We know it won't be because it's been stated as a new IP, as others have mentioned. While I wouldn't mind a revamp of ESO at a base level, I... do not trust Zenimax Media or its subsidiaries as game developers. They've proven to me beyond reasonable doubt that their goal is not to make games customers play, but to make "games" that play their customers. Whether or not the Microsoft acquisition changes this remains to be seen, but I am skeptical this will shift.3 -
BoloBoffin✭✭✭✭✭...that the new "AAA IP" ZoS is working on will be ESO2?
Is there any chance of it?
The new AAA IP is an MMO based on The Last of Us world. I'm kidding, I don't know, that's rank speculation.Now let's dig on the Dirt Mound... (never gonna get it, never gonna get it, NEEEEver gonna get it, never gonna it)0 -
craybest✭✭✭✭✭I mean so far we don't even knoe if it's even a MMO. could be a single player AAA title, no?0 -
asuitandtyb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭VampireLordLover99 wrote: »asuitandtyb14_ESO wrote: »As much as I would like to see a rewrite of some (or even all of the code) to make ESO work properly - whether it's called ESO - it's never going to happen. It's naive to expect anything to change at this point. As several others have stated any rewrites of the code take 4-5 years or evn up to a decade and by then this game will be forgotten and left behind for better things that are appearing on the horizon after a long drought in the MMO scene. New world is coming soon, and even Ashes of Creation is due to release before any code could feasably be rewritten for ESO. In addition, it's safe to say that TES:6 game will compete for the attention of many current ESO players as well.
What is actually reasonable to expect is the following: there are several more DLCs and expansions already in development, and they will keep getting released regurarly until the release of TES:6. Now we are taking a stroll down memory lane with oblivion and maybe next on the list is nostalgia boogaloo 2: shivering islands. Because nostalgia sells (Greymoore = Skyrim = most sold expansion) playerbase will remain high enough to get good sale numbers and everything will culminate with the last expansion that will bring us to the story of TES:6 and maximize the hype. And then we move on to TES:6 and await the next big title.
I hate to be the one to inform you, but AoC is a scam. New Worlds looks promising. Unfortunately, I don't think many people will give ZoS another chance with TES. They messed it up so badly in so many ways, it's near Funcom levels of irredeemable.
AoC isn't a scam, where's your proof on that? The main guy funded the game with millions out of his own pocket. And everything has been transparent thus far. Development is going steady. They post regular update videos showcasing progress. Where's the scam part?
Don't make claims you can't back up.
Oh, I can back it up. I'm also willing to eat my words, if I see proof to any actual game development.
What I don't care for are the legions of people who saw a youtube video by the lazypeon, which was specifically paid for by Steven Sharif, and suddenly think they get to tell me about it. You'll probably ask though, why would he buy a youtube video?
Well you see, there are many, myself included that kickstarted this game years before that video. I put in a lot more than I'd like to say, but what's done is done. I digress. They made a pretty penny from kickstarter to make this game. In all that time, from then, until now, we got one alpha. Exciting right?
Well no, because they tried to sell us on a new change to AoC at that time. It was going to be a battle royale now! Well, I tried it. It was bad. I was basically done at that point. I knew I got scammed, but whatever.
The larger kickstarter community though, they were angry. Quite a ruckus was raised. About a year later, we had news that the mmo was back on track! Oh and now there's an in-game store, to buy cosmetic mounts and skins and stuff. Just like ESO, except there is no in-game. The stuff costs hundreds of dollars, is all through a browser, and is basically a "promise". And then they made that youtube video, so they can get a new wave of suckers to spend money on a game, that so far, has shown no actual development.1 -
JamieAubrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nope, I want them to fix PVP before they go and make a whole new MMO with the same problems as it would be running on the same engine0
