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Selling BOUND Mounts now allowed?
Blacknight841
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I am a little confused by this new phenomenon sweeping across the game. I can understand zenimax not caring about gold buyers/sellers or even bots (or at least not acting on them)... but this directly effects their crown sales. The worst part is that the players are not doing it by themselves, but rather customer support is doing the transaction for them. As it stands, one no longer needs to buy crown crates, or even wait for crown crates to come back in season that are long past, but rather just find someone with the mount they want and buy it from that person (with cash or gold). To further this scenario, it isn't even an in game issue. This is directly done by zenimax customer support. So by all accounts anyone could see this as being blessed by zenimax.
To explain the scenario. Person A wants to sell his radiant apex mount from his inventory to person B. Person A gets the gold or cash from person B. Person A then proceeds to sending a ticket to customer service asking to "gift" their mount to Person B. And bam! 48 hours later Person B has the mount, and Person A is richer.??? It is just asinine, that this even happened once, let alone being systematically done to gain a profit. Not only that, but there is a direct line of proof on the transactions. It is not like people do not know what they are doing.
I truly upset at this point for spending crowns and trying to gamble for a radiant mount, now knowing that all I had to do was buy it from someone else. From my perspective it feels as though the developers are purposefully trying to alienate those that play the game as intended. How are players supposed to care about the game, with situations like this happening?
Ticket Number: 201210-003344 @ZOS_GinaBruno
Edited by Blacknight841 on December 14, 2020 6:12PM To explain the scenario. Person A wants to sell his radiant apex mount from his inventory to person B. Person A gets the gold or cash from person B. Person A then proceeds to sending a ticket to customer service asking to "gift" their mount to Person B. And bam! 48 hours later Person B has the mount, and Person A is richer.??? It is just asinine, that this even happened once, let alone being systematically done to gain a profit. Not only that, but there is a direct line of proof on the transactions. It is not like people do not know what they are doing.
I truly upset at this point for spending crowns and trying to gamble for a radiant mount, now knowing that all I had to do was buy it from someone else. From my perspective it feels as though the developers are purposefully trying to alienate those that play the game as intended. How are players supposed to care about the game, with situations like this happening?
Ticket Number: 201210-003344 @ZOS_GinaBruno
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Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »I am a little confused by this new phenomenon sweeping across the game. I can understand zenimax not caring about gold buyers/sellers or even bots (or at least not acting on them)... but this directly effects their crown sales. The worst part is that the players are not doing it by themselves, but rather customer support is doing the transaction for them. As it stands, one no longer needs to buy crown crates, or even wait for crown crates to come back in season that are long past, but rather just find someone with the mount they want and buy it from that person (with cash or gold). To further this scenario, it isn't even an in game issue. This is directly done by zenimax customer support. So by all accounts anyone could see this as being blessed by zenimax.
To explain the scenario. Person A wants to sell his radiant apex mount from his inventory to person B. Person A gets the gold or cash from person B. Person A then proceeds to sending a ticket to customer service asking to "gift" their mount to Person B. And bam! 48 hours later Person B has the mount, and Person A is richer.??? It is just asinine, that this even happened once, let alone being systematically done to gain a profit. Not only that, but there is a direct line of proof on the transactions. It is not like people do not know what they are doing.
I truly upset at this point for spending crowns and trying to gamble for a radiant mount, now knowing that all I had to do was buy it from someone else. From my perspective it feels as though the developers are purposefully trying to alienate those that play the game as intended. How are players supposed to care about the game, with situations like this happening?
Ticket Number: 201210-003344 @ZOS_GinaBruno
LOL WHAT IS THIS POST 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That last paragraph, mate... I CAN'T EVEN DECIDE IF I WANNA LAUGH OR CRY 🤣🤣Edited by Nyladreas on December 14, 2020 5:47PM22 -
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✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »From my perspective it feels as though the developers are purposefully trying to alienate those that play the game as intended. How are players supposed to care about the game, with situations like this happening?
Ticket Number: 201210-003344 @ZOS_GinaBruno
I am sure ZoS loves that you think opening crown crates has anything to do with gameplay.Edited by manny254 on December 14, 2020 5:49PM- Mojican17 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Trading in game items, which includes gifting for gold, is allowed by ZOS.
Asking Support to help out is the known workaround for stuff that used to not be giftable, like houses. Support doesn't really care who pays as long as ZOS gets paid.Edited by VaranisArano on December 14, 2020 5:57PM8 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »From my perspective it feels as though the developers are purposefully trying to alienate those that play the game as intended. How are players supposed to care about the game, with situations like this happening?
Ticket Number: 201210-003344 @ZOS_GinaBruno
I am sure ZoS loves that you think opening crown crates has anything to do with gameplay.
If the game has a system in it where you are encouraged to gamble for a cosmetic item, then it should be treated as such. Since you cannot buy a radiant apex mount with crowns directly, it is completely circumventing the system to be able to buy it with gold from someone else. That is not how the crown crates were intended to be played.0 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭furiouslog wrote: »It does not seem likely that this actually happened.
I have submitted proof of the contrary.0 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Trading in game items, which includes gifting for gold, is allowed by ZOS.
Asking Support to help out is the known workaround for stuff that used to not be giftable, like houses. Support doesn't really care who pays as long as ZOS gets paid.
Gifting items that can be purchased for crowns sure. Gifting items from your inventory that you are not using just because you would rather have gold, I think not. Can I gift a bout maelstrom staff? A radiant apex cannot be purchased by crowns, so one should not be able to gift the item from their inventory.
This isnt merely about gifting items. This is gifting items a person already owns. In essence getting a gold refund from the recipient for crowns spent.
I highly doubt that it is accepted by zos, for me to gift the 100+ mounts from my inventory to other people, and get gold in exchange.
Edited by Blacknight841 on December 14, 2020 6:06PM1 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Trading in game items, which includes gifting for gold, is allowed by ZOS.
Asking Support to help out is the known workaround for stuff that used to not be giftable, like houses. Support doesn't really care who pays as long as ZOS gets paid.
Gifting items that can be purchased for crowns sure. Gifting items from your inventory that you are not using just because you would rather have gold, I think not. Can I gift a bout maelstrom staff? A radiant apex cannot be purchased by crowns, so one should not be able to gift the item from their inventory.
This isnt merely about gifting items. This is gifting items a person owns. In essence getting a gold refund from he recipient for crowns spent.
When you gift an item from the crown store, it requires a new injection of crowns to zenimax. This however does not require any injection of crowns into the system,.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Trading in game items, which includes gifting for gold, is allowed by ZOS.
Asking Support to help out is the known workaround for stuff that used to not be giftable, like houses. Support doesn't really care who pays as long as ZOS gets paid.
Gifting items that can be purchased for crowns sure. Gifting items from your inventory that you are not using just because you would rather have gold, I think not. Can I gift a bout maelstrom staff? A radiant apex cannot be purchased by crowns, so one should not be able to gift the item from their inventory.
This isnt merely about gifting items. This is gifting items a person owns. In essence getting a gold refund from he recipient for crowns spent.
When you gift an item from the crown store, it requires a new injection of crowns to zenimax. This however does not require any injection of crowns into the system,.
yes it does. someone payed for these crown crates.
anyone wants pets for sale?7 -
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✭Blacknight841 wrote: »furiouslog wrote: »It does not seem likely that this actually happened.
I have submitted proof of the contrary.
What proof is that? It seems unlikely that you'd have access to anything that was truly definitive unless you participated in the transaction yourself.11 -
Malkiv✭✭✭✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »If the game has a system in it where you are encouraged to gamble for a cosmetic item, then it should be treated as such. Since you cannot buy a radiant apex mount with crowns directly, it is completely circumventing the system to be able to buy it with gold from someone else. That is not how the crown crates were intended to be played.
@Blacknight841 - If ZOS employees are facilitating the transactions, wouldn't that in its self suggest it is officially supported? Can you provide a link to where ZOS has said that is how crown crates are intended to be played? Or is this just a personal interpretation?
Here is a link to a statement by an official representative regarding the exchange of in-game items for in-game currency: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5205829/#Comment_5205829PC-NA | PvP (Gray Host & BGs) | PvE (vTrials & vDGs)5 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭furiouslog wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »furiouslog wrote: »It does not seem likely that this actually happened.
I have submitted proof of the contrary.
What proof is that? It seems unlikely that you'd have access to anything that was truly definitive unless you participated in the transaction yourself.
You do not need to physically do something to have proof. It is very easy to see what is happening if all of a sudden everyone is trying to sell their own mounts. Also zos customer support would have a ticket with the exact situation I am describing if it is true. Along with a gold transaction from the person they gifted the item to. Not exactly rocket science here.
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Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »If the game has a system in it where you are encouraged to gamble for a cosmetic item, then it should be treated as such. Since you cannot buy a radiant apex mount with crowns directly, it is completely circumventing the system to be able to buy it with gold from someone else. That is not how the crown crates were intended to be played.
@Blacknight841 - If ZOS employees are facilitating the transactions, wouldn't that in its self suggest it is officially supported? Can you provide a link to where ZOS has said that is how crown crates are intended to be played? Or is this just a personal interpretation?
Here is a link to a statement by an official representative regarding the exchange of in-game items for in-game currency: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5205829/#Comment_5205829
It is one thing to gift an item from the crown store, it is another to gift a bound item from your inventory. By your argument, what's the point of binding something to an account if you can still gift it with a letter to zenimax? Because I have an extra perfected maelstrom staff, does that mean I can gift it to someone for gold... or even one of my older houses that I am no longer using, can I gift that to a person for gold? I think not.Edited by Blacknight841 on December 14, 2020 6:22PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Trading in game items, which includes gifting for gold, is allowed by ZOS.
Asking Support to help out is the known workaround for stuff that used to not be giftable, like houses. Support doesn't really care who pays as long as ZOS gets paid.
Gifting items that can be purchased for crowns sure. Gifting items from your inventory that you are not using just because you would rather have gold, I think not. Can I gift a bout maelstrom staff? A radiant apex cannot be purchased by crowns, so one should not be able to gift the item from their inventory.
This isnt merely about gifting items. This is gifting items a person already owns. In essence getting a gold refund from the recipient for crowns spent.
I highly doubt that it is accepted by zos, for me to gift the 100+ mounts from my inventory to other people, and get gold in exchange.
The Radiant Apex mount was purchased with crowns, as is everything in the Crown Crates. So I think that's a moot point. Someone paid for the crown crates at some point, or there would be no mount to gift.
Your contention is that ZOS Support has facilitated this exchange (in which case, it seems logical that they de facto allow it), yet you doubt that ZOS accepts this type of trade.
Hmm.
Honestly, I suspect either someone is overstating what Support will actually let them do or ZOS Support will allow it even though they prefer to not make it an obvious type of gifting (yet.) As I noted, Support has done this for houses, which eventually became giftable for players.7 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Trading in game items, which includes gifting for gold, is allowed by ZOS.
Asking Support to help out is the known workaround for stuff that used to not be giftable, like houses. Support doesn't really care who pays as long as ZOS gets paid.
Gifting items that can be purchased for crowns sure. Gifting items from your inventory that you are not using just because you would rather have gold, I think not. Can I gift a bout maelstrom staff? A radiant apex cannot be purchased by crowns, so one should not be able to gift the item from their inventory.
This isnt merely about gifting items. This is gifting items a person already owns. In essence getting a gold refund from the recipient for crowns spent.
I highly doubt that it is accepted by zos, for me to gift the 100+ mounts from my inventory to other people, and get gold in exchange.
The Radiant Apex mount was purchased with crowns, as is everything in the Crown Crates. So I think that's a moot point. Someone paid for the crown crates at some point, or there would be no mount to gift.
Your contention is that ZOS Support has facilitated this exchange (in which case, it seems logical that they de facto allow it), yet you doubt that ZOS accepts this type of trade.
Hmm.
Honestly, I suspect either someone is overstating what Support will actually let them do or ZOS Support will allow it even though they prefer to not make it an obvious type of gifting (yet.) As I noted, Support has done this for houses, which eventually became giftable for players.
Support has allowed the gifting of houses, by buying a new house for that person. That is clear. What this issue highlights, is gifting a mount from a persons inventory. The gifting system allows for the purchase of a NEW item for a recipient, not for gifting old items already in a persons inventory. Gifting old and unused items bound to a players account is a different scenario entirely. In all gifting transactions, zenimax gets new crowns spent. This scenario is circumventing that. Instead it is recycling old items for a profit (after all you can only use one mount at a time). Also if it is an accepted thing, then why make anything bound to an account at all? Furthermore this will lead to a general influx of tickets for gifting items, taking away from the ability of zenimax concentrating on tickets that put more emphasis on gameplay.0 -
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✭✭Can you show what your proof is please, as whilst you have posted numerous times saying this is happening, that’s all it is - you saying this is happening. That isn’t proof.11 -
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✭Anyone wanna buy a bear mount? Or an extremely ill-tempered camel?
Asking for a friend.13 -
Malkiv✭✭✭✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »If the game has a system in it where you are encouraged to gamble for a cosmetic item, then it should be treated as such. Since you cannot buy a radiant apex mount with crowns directly, it is completely circumventing the system to be able to buy it with gold from someone else. That is not how the crown crates were intended to be played.
@Blacknight841 - If ZOS employees are facilitating the transactions, wouldn't that in its self suggest it is officially supported? Can you provide a link to where ZOS has said that is how crown crates are intended to be played? Or is this just a personal interpretation?
Here is a link to a statement by an official representative regarding the exchange of in-game items for in-game currency: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5205829/#Comment_5205829
It is one thing to gift an item from the crown store, it is another to gift a bound item from your inventory. By your argument, what's the point of binding something to an account if you can still gift it with a letter to zenimax? Because I have an extra perfected maelstrom staff, does that mean I can gift it to someone for gold... or even one of my older houses that I am no longer using, can I gift that to a person for gold? I think not.
Radiant Mounts are not part of your inventory - they are part of your collections, and are obtained through the Crown Store. There is precedent set with Crown Store house trading before the direct gifting of Crown Store housing was implemented into the Crown Store UI. Of course, all of this is on a per case basis that would allow the acceptance or denial of the transactions based upon CR discretion, as it must be transacted through the help ticket system.PC-NA | PvP (Gray Host & BGs) | PvE (vTrials & vDGs)2 -
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✭I didn't thinking gifting Gem related items were a thing, proof please...
I did know you could gift straight up crown mounts... but having a Radiant gifted... that's new.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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Malkiv✭✭✭✭✭Kalik_Gold wrote: »I didn't thinking gifting Gem related items were a thing, proof please...
I did know you could gift straight up crown mounts... but having a Radiant gifted... that's new.
It's done through the help tickets.PC-NA | PvP (Gray Host & BGs) | PvE (vTrials & vDGs)0 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭Hallothiel wrote: »Can you show what your proof is please, as whilst you have posted numerous times saying this is happening, that’s all it is - you saying this is happening. That isn’t proof.
Name has been removed to prevent naming and Shaming. The entire community band pages are littered with posts like these, some showing sold items, some showing confirmed sales, some even showing ticket conversations.
https://imgur.com/gallery/aGm1m0H
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✭Kalik_Gold wrote: »I didn't thinking gifting Gem related items were a thing, proof please...
I did know you could gift straight up crown mounts... but having a Radiant gifted... that's new.
It's done through the help tickets.
Wow, that right there is a slap in the face, when real help tickets for Bots, Bugs and other issues are put on hold. I also put in tickets for out of season Crown Items before and were denied. It must be a whale thing where they buy so much they get special privileges, a regular player/payer would be denied I assume.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Trading in game items, which includes gifting for gold, is allowed by ZOS.
Asking Support to help out is the known workaround for stuff that used to not be giftable, like houses. Support doesn't really care who pays as long as ZOS gets paid.
Gifting items that can be purchased for crowns sure. Gifting items from your inventory that you are not using just because you would rather have gold, I think not. Can I gift a bout maelstrom staff? A radiant apex cannot be purchased by crowns, so one should not be able to gift the item from their inventory.
This isnt merely about gifting items. This is gifting items a person already owns. In essence getting a gold refund from the recipient for crowns spent.
I highly doubt that it is accepted by zos, for me to gift the 100+ mounts from my inventory to other people, and get gold in exchange.
The Radiant Apex mount was purchased with crowns, as is everything in the Crown Crates. So I think that's a moot point. Someone paid for the crown crates at some point, or there would be no mount to gift.
Your contention is that ZOS Support has facilitated this exchange (in which case, it seems logical that they de facto allow it), yet you doubt that ZOS accepts this type of trade.
Hmm.
Honestly, I suspect either someone is overstating what Support will actually let them do or ZOS Support will allow it even though they prefer to not make it an obvious type of gifting (yet.) As I noted, Support has done this for houses, which eventually became giftable for players.
Support has allowed the gifting of houses, by buying a new house for that person. That is clear. What this issue highlights, is gifting a mount from a persons inventory. The gifting system allows for the purchase of a NEW item for a recipient, not for gifting old items already in a persons inventory. Gifting old and unused items bound to a players account is a different scenario entirely. In all gifting transactions, zenimax gets new crowns spent. This scenario is circumventing that. Instead it is recycling old items for a profit (after all you can only use one mount at a time). Also if it is an accepted thing, then why make anything bound to an account at all? Furthermore this will lead to a general influx of tickets for gifting items, taking away from the ability of zenimax concentrating on tickets that put more emphasis on gameplay.
How it used to work:
Person A wants to gift a house to Person B.
Person A asked Support to charge them X Crowns and to gift the house to Person B.
Support takes X Crowns for ZOS from Person A and gifts the house to Person B.
You can insert whatever item you like. Some people had luck doing it with some older items no longer in the Crown Store.
How this Radiant Mount gifting thing apparently works:
Person A spends loads of Crowns on Crown Crates.
Person A gets Radiant Apex Mount.
Person A asks Support to gift it to Person B.
Support does apparently does so, because ZOS already profited from Person A spending loads of crowns to get the Radiant Apex mount in the first place.
In both cases, ZOS gets their profit from people spending crowns to get the item they gifted.4 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kalik_Gold wrote: »Kalik_Gold wrote: »I didn't thinking gifting Gem related items were a thing, proof please...
I did know you could gift straight up crown mounts... but having a Radiant gifted... that's new.
It's done through the help tickets.
Wow, that right there is a slap in the face, when real help tickets for Bots, Bugs and other issues are put on hold. I also put in tickets for out of season Crown Items before and were denied. It must be a whale thing where they buy so much they get special privileges, a regular player/payer would be denied I assume.
Based on what I've seen in past threads, it seems to depend on the Customer Support agent. Some will say no and some will help out with getting out of season items.3 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Trading in game items, which includes gifting for gold, is allowed by ZOS.
Asking Support to help out is the known workaround for stuff that used to not be giftable, like houses. Support doesn't really care who pays as long as ZOS gets paid.
Gifting items that can be purchased for crowns sure. Gifting items from your inventory that you are not using just because you would rather have gold, I think not. Can I gift a bout maelstrom staff? A radiant apex cannot be purchased by crowns, so one should not be able to gift the item from their inventory.
This isnt merely about gifting items. This is gifting items a person already owns. In essence getting a gold refund from the recipient for crowns spent.
I highly doubt that it is accepted by zos, for me to gift the 100+ mounts from my inventory to other people, and get gold in exchange.
The Radiant Apex mount was purchased with crowns, as is everything in the Crown Crates. So I think that's a moot point. Someone paid for the crown crates at some point, or there would be no mount to gift.
Your contention is that ZOS Support has facilitated this exchange (in which case, it seems logical that they de facto allow it), yet you doubt that ZOS accepts this type of trade.
Hmm.
Honestly, I suspect either someone is overstating what Support will actually let them do or ZOS Support will allow it even though they prefer to not make it an obvious type of gifting (yet.) As I noted, Support has done this for houses, which eventually became giftable for players.
Support has allowed the gifting of houses, by buying a new house for that person. That is clear. What this issue highlights, is gifting a mount from a persons inventory. The gifting system allows for the purchase of a NEW item for a recipient, not for gifting old items already in a persons inventory. Gifting old and unused items bound to a players account is a different scenario entirely. In all gifting transactions, zenimax gets new crowns spent. This scenario is circumventing that. Instead it is recycling old items for a profit (after all you can only use one mount at a time). Also if it is an accepted thing, then why make anything bound to an account at all? Furthermore this will lead to a general influx of tickets for gifting items, taking away from the ability of zenimax concentrating on tickets that put more emphasis on gameplay.
How it used to work:
Person A wants to gift a house to Person B.
Person A asked Support to charge them X Crowns and to gift the house to Person B.
Support takes X Crowns for ZOS from Person A and gifts the house to Person B.
You can insert whatever item you like. Some people had luck doing it with some older items no longer in the Crown Store.
How this Radiant Mount gifting thing apparently works:
Person A spends loads of Crowns on Crown Crates.
Person A gets Radiant Apex Mount.
Person A asks Support to gift it to Person B.
Support does apparently does so, because ZOS already profited from Person A spending loads of crowns to get the Radiant Apex mount in the first place.
In both cases, ZOS gets their profit from people spending crowns to get the item they gifted.
This would be true if zos rolled new crown crates for the person and then charged them the total crowns. This however is a fact of gifting previous crown crate mounts that a person has bound to their account. In your scenario A a new house is purchased, in your scenario B, no new purchase is made.
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✭✭✭✭✭All I can figure is that player A gives player B gold, and then player B presumably uses crown gems-- not crowns-- to buy some mount or pet that they already have in their collections but as a gift for player A, which involves opening a ticket with support. Dunno if that's how it works, but I don't know of any other way to "buy" a mount or pet that's obtained from crown crates.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!0 -
Radiance✭✭✭✭✭
✭Blacknight841 wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »From my perspective it feels as though the developers are purposefully trying to alienate those that play the game as intended. How are players supposed to care about the game, with situations like this happening?
Ticket Number: 201210-003344 @ZOS_GinaBruno
I am sure ZoS loves that you think opening crown crates has anything to do with gameplay.
if the game has a system in it where you are encouraged to gamble for a cosmetic item, then it should be treated as such. Since you cannot buy a radiant apex mount with crowns directly, it is completely circumventing the system to be able to buy it with gold from someone else. That is not how the crown crates were intended to be played.
I've never heard of anything like this.
Are you saying this is actually happening or is this "scenario" a hypothetical one?
If you're cool with them cheating their customers with a fixed gambling system why not cheat them back? Which it's not considering someone already paid for it and the item is not being duplicated which none of this is actually happening anyway.
Are you having buyers remorse so you need to call someone out to feel better? Sounds fabricated to me.
Edit: If this is real then someone sell me a radiant! lolEdited by Radiance on December 14, 2020 6:56PM3 -
amm7sb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Blacknight841 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Trading in game items, which includes gifting for gold, is allowed by ZOS.
Asking Support to help out is the known workaround for stuff that used to not be giftable, like houses. Support doesn't really care who pays as long as ZOS gets paid.
Gifting items that can be purchased for crowns sure. Gifting items from your inventory that you are not using just because you would rather have gold, I think not. Can I gift a bout maelstrom staff? A radiant apex cannot be purchased by crowns, so one should not be able to gift the item from their inventory.
This isnt merely about gifting items. This is gifting items a person already owns. In essence getting a gold refund from the recipient for crowns spent.
I highly doubt that it is accepted by zos, for me to gift the 100+ mounts from my inventory to other people, and get gold in exchange.
The Radiant Apex mount was purchased with crowns, as is everything in the Crown Crates. So I think that's a moot point. Someone paid for the crown crates at some point, or there would be no mount to gift.
Your contention is that ZOS Support has facilitated this exchange (in which case, it seems logical that they de facto allow it), yet you doubt that ZOS accepts this type of trade.
Hmm.
Honestly, I suspect either someone is overstating what Support will actually let them do or ZOS Support will allow it even though they prefer to not make it an obvious type of gifting (yet.) As I noted, Support has done this for houses, which eventually became giftable for players.
Support has allowed the gifting of houses, by buying a new house for that person. That is clear. What this issue highlights, is gifting a mount from a persons inventory. The gifting system allows for the purchase of a NEW item for a recipient, not for gifting old items already in a persons inventory. Gifting old and unused items bound to a players account is a different scenario entirely. In all gifting transactions, zenimax gets new crowns spent. This scenario is circumventing that. Instead it is recycling old items for a profit (after all you can only use one mount at a time). Also if it is an accepted thing, then why make anything bound to an account at all? Furthermore this will lead to a general influx of tickets for gifting items, taking away from the ability of zenimax concentrating on tickets that put more emphasis on gameplay.
How it used to work:
Person A wants to gift a house to Person B.
Person A asked Support to charge them X Crowns and to gift the house to Person B.
Support takes X Crowns for ZOS from Person A and gifts the house to Person B.
You can insert whatever item you like. Some people had luck doing it with some older items no longer in the Crown Store.
How this Radiant Mount gifting thing apparently works:
Person A spends loads of Crowns on Crown Crates.
Person A gets Radiant Apex Mount.
Person A asks Support to gift it to Person B.
Support does apparently does so, because ZOS already profited from Person A spending loads of crowns to get the Radiant Apex mount in the first place.
In both cases, ZOS gets their profit from people spending crowns to get the item they gifted.
This would be true if zos rolled new crown crates for the person and then charged them the total crowns. This however is a fact of gifting previous crown crate mounts that a person has bound to their account. In your scenario A a new house is purchased, in your scenario B, no new purchase is made.
No new purchase is made, and no new mount is created.
Non-issue.0
