How do YOU level Excavation and Scrying on your alts?

Raideen

So I am leveling Excavation and Scrying on my 4th character. I am at level 5, but I have no purple leads to scy because there is only one purple lead allowed per zone and I dug all them up on my first 3 charcters. I think this is a huge mistake and oversight on ZOS part because without the purple leads to scry, the time it takes to get from level 5 to level 10 will take much longer than leveling scrying/excavating up on the first character.
NOTE: I am referring to the zone purple leads, not lead drops which themselves take time to farm out, so farming them is not the answer.

Typically in MMORPG's, once you grind out a mundane task on a main character, there are mechanics and QOL items that make the grind much much less time consuming for alts. In the case of Excavation and Scrying however, its the opposite. The more characters you scrying/excavation on, the more time it takes.

So, my question is. How do YOU level Excavation and Scrying on your alts.

noneatza

Im sorry if this isnt an answer you expect, but i dont level scrying on alts, there is no point in doing so. Leads are account wide, if i happen to find a lead on an alt without scrying i just hop on my main and scry it.

Raideen

noneatza wrote: »

Im sorry if this isnt an answer you expect, but i dont level scrying on alts, there is no point in doing so. Leads are account wide, if i happen to find a lead on an alt without scrying i just hop on my main and scry it.

I level them both up on alts for the treasure chest passive that allows you to see treasure chests easily. I do this so that I may contribute to the dungeon parties I am a part of.

idk

Zos made it a painful grind to do on alts since the purple lead that comes from getting completing the blue lead is a one-time deal.

The fastest way is Arteum green/blue lead rotation unless one already had a lot of purple leads and treasure maps laying around.

On one alt I used Arteum to get to the point I could do purple leads. I then did treasure maps and any purple, then later gold, lead I came across playing the game. I did not rush it as I could not stand the mindless grind anymore. Leads come often enough for those who are active in the game. The only reason I level up a second is it is my main tank which is really the character I am on the most and I wanted the chest passive.

I am not a patron of the crown store outside of using my ESO+ crowns from time to time, but I would have spent crowns to unlock this on an alt.

Raideen

idk wrote: »

I am not a patron of the crown store outside of using my ESO+ crowns from time to time, but I would have spent crowns to unlock this on an alt.

This is not an option. Solution selling is unethical. Creating the problem, then selling the solution is like a virus company creating antivirus software, and then creating viruses. Or tire companies who sell tires, but then throw a box of nails on the road.

ZOS should allow the purple zone leads to be scry'd and excavated for every character on an account, even if this means reducing the gold reward, or eliminating it on alts.

Eedat

Raideen wrote: »

idk wrote: »

I am not a patron of the crown store outside of using my ESO+ crowns from time to time, but I would have spent crowns to unlock this on an alt.

This is not an option. Solution selling is unethical. Creating the problem, then selling the solution is like a virus company creating antivirus software, and then creating viruses. Or tire companies who sell tires, but then throw a box of nails on the road.

ZOS should allow the purple zone leads to be scry'd and excavated for every character on an account, even if this means reducing the gold reward, or eliminating it on alts.

Except it's nothing like creating a virus then selling the fix for it? It's convenience in a video game. Not malicious damage that causes real world implications and loses.

Raideen

Eedat wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

idk wrote: »

I am not a patron of the crown store outside of using my ESO+ crowns from time to time, but I would have spent crowns to unlock this on an alt.

This is not an option. Solution selling is unethical. Creating the problem, then selling the solution is like a virus company creating antivirus software, and then creating viruses. Or tire companies who sell tires, but then throw a box of nails on the road.

ZOS should allow the purple zone leads to be scry'd and excavated for every character on an account, even if this means reducing the gold reward, or eliminating it on alts.

Except it's nothing like creating a virus then selling the fix for it? It's convenience in a video game. Not malicious damage that causes real world implications and loses.

Actually, it's exactly like that, because money is charged for these items (in before "you can buy crowns with gold"...not safely you can not, its always a risk).

Eedat

Raideen wrote: »

Eedat wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

idk wrote: »

I am not a patron of the crown store outside of using my ESO+ crowns from time to time, but I would have spent crowns to unlock this on an alt.

This is not an option. Solution selling is unethical. Creating the problem, then selling the solution is like a virus company creating antivirus software, and then creating viruses. Or tire companies who sell tires, but then throw a box of nails on the road.

ZOS should allow the purple zone leads to be scry'd and excavated for every character on an account, even if this means reducing the gold reward, or eliminating it on alts.

Except it's nothing like creating a virus then selling the fix for it? It's convenience in a video game. Not malicious damage that causes real world implications and loses.

Actually, it's exactly like that, because money is charged for these items (in before "you can buy crowns with gold"...not safely you can not, its always a risk).

You seem to have completely missed the point. Offering convenience in a video game is not the same as causing actual damage to someone or their property then charging them for the fix. You are crazy over exaggerating lol. Especially considering there is practically no point in having multiple characters with max scrying

Raideen

Eedat wrote: »

You seem to have completely missed the point. Offering convivence in a video game is not the same as causing actual damage to someone or their property then charging them for the fix.

I missed nothing, and spelled it out. A problem is created in game, and then a solution is sold, that costs real life money to solve. It is unethical.

Eedat wrote: »

You are crazy over exaggerating lol. Especially considering there is practically no point in having multiple characters with max scrying

Raideen wrote: »

I level them both up on alts for the treasure chest passive that allows you to see treasure chests easily. I do this so that I may contribute to the dungeon parties I am a part of.

Hapexamendios

I leveled my most used alt up to level 7 for the treasure chest passive. I'm not doing any more than that.

redspecter23

Go to Coldharbor on your main. Gather plants until you get a Void Crystal Anomaly lead. Scry it on your main and dig it up on your alt for 10 xp. You can reliably dig gold leads starting at level 2 with the trowel and much easier starting when you get the shovel.

Eedat

Raideen wrote: »

Eedat wrote: »

You seem to have completely missed the point. Offering convivence in a video game is not the same as causing actual damage to someone or their property then charging them for the fix.

I missed nothing, and spelled it out. A problem is created in game, and then a solution is sold, that costs real life money to solve. It is unethical.

Eedat wrote: »

You are crazy over exaggerating lol. Especially considering there is practically no point in having multiple characters with max scrying

Raideen wrote: »

I level them both up on alts for the treasure chest passive that allows you to see treasure chests easily. I do this so that I may contribute to the dungeon parties I am a part of.

I said practically no reason. [snip] Rank 7 excavation isn't even that bad to get.

[Edited to remove Flaming]

Taleof2Cities

I’m not sure what you want us to tell you if you already know the solution, @Raideen.

The fastest way is getting the zone leads and Artaeum rotation ... as @idk mentioned above.

If you’re on PC, consider saving yourself a lot of time and headaches by using the treasure chest feature of the Harvest Map add-on or Map Pins add-on.

Raideen

redspecter23 wrote: »

Go to Coldharbor on your main. Gather plants until you get a Void Crystal Anomaly lead. Scry it on your main and dig it up on your alt for 10 xp. You can reliably dig gold leads starting at level 2 with the trowel and much easier starting when you get the shovel.

Ya my issue with that is 2 fold. The time it takes to farm the lead could be spent in Artaeum just farming out greens/blues.
Secondly, there seems to be a cooldown on the leads. I was farming the clockwork city gold one and got it back to back to back, then it went poof. What used to take all of a few minutes to farm up, now takes hours. I fear any purple/gold lead will be the same way.

Raideen

Eedat wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

Eedat wrote: »

You seem to have completely missed the point. Offering convivence in a video game is not the same as causing actual damage to someone or their property then charging them for the fix.

I missed nothing, and spelled it out. A problem is created in game, and then a solution is sold, that costs real life money to solve. It is unethical.

Eedat wrote: »

You are crazy over exaggerating lol. Especially considering there is practically no point in having multiple characters with max scrying

Raideen wrote: »

I level them both up on alts for the treasure chest passive that allows you to see treasure chests easily. I do this so that I may contribute to the dungeon parties I am a part of.

I said practically no reason. [snip] Rank 7 excavation isn't even that bad to get.

I am not exaggerating at all. If you prefer companies to conduct business unethically, good for you, I prefer they conduct business in an honest fashion.

Secondly. I don't consider leveling up scrying/excavating to help see treasure chests easier for the groups I am in (the goal being to benefit the party) as "practically no reason".

Raideen

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

I’m not sure what you want us to tell you if you already know the solution, @Raideen.

The fastest way is getting the zone leads and Artaeum rotation ... as @idk mentioned above.

I did not need your buddy to tell me what he did, my OP covers that I already understand this mechanic to the nth degree.

My point is to bring up an oversight on ZOS part (which I also listed in my OP if you actually read it). The more the community is aware, the more they can express their voice to get changes made.

Eedat

Raideen wrote: »

Eedat wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

Eedat wrote: »

You seem to have completely missed the point. Offering convivence in a video game is not the same as causing actual damage to someone or their property then charging them for the fix.

I missed nothing, and spelled it out. A problem is created in game, and then a solution is sold, that costs real life money to solve. It is unethical.

Eedat wrote: »

You are crazy over exaggerating lol. Especially considering there is practically no point in having multiple characters with max scrying

Raideen wrote: »

I level them both up on alts for the treasure chest passive that allows you to see treasure chests easily. I do this so that I may contribute to the dungeon parties I am a part of.

I said practically no reason. [snip] Rank 7 excavation isn't even that bad to get.

I am not exaggerating at all. If you prefer companies to conduct business unethically, good for you, I prefer they conduct business in an honest fashion.

Secondly. I don't consider leveling up scrying/excavating to help see treasure chests easier for the groups I am in (the goal being to benefit the party) as "practically no reason".

Then level excavation to 7 and be done with it. It's not even that bad. But the fact that you can equate causing physical damage to someone's property to convenience in a video game is something else.

Linaleah

Raideen wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Go to Coldharbor on your main. Gather plants until you get a Void Crystal Anomaly lead. Scry it on your main and dig it up on your alt for 10 xp. You can reliably dig gold leads starting at level 2 with the trowel and much easier starting when you get the shovel.

Ya my issue with that is 2 fold. The time it takes to farm the lead could be spent in Artaeum just farming out greens/blues.
Secondly, there seems to be a cooldown on the leads. I was farming the clockwork city gold one and got it back to back to back, then it went poof. What used to take all of a few minutes to farm up, now takes hours. I fear any purple/gold lead will be the same way.

from personal experience I would get that lead every third flower or so. it was far FAR faster then green/blue rotation in Artaeum and its what I did on every single character I leveled antiquities on, just go to coldharbour and farm flowers. alternately - for guildies at least, seat of snow prince in Western Skyrim seems to drop a lot. it wasn't dropping as much for me, but it was for them and its a purple lead so you can start farming it sooner.

jle30303

Once you've levelled up to be able to get purple leads:

There are plenty of other purple (and gold) treasure leads you can get. You just have to adventure to find them. The purple ad gold furniture, in particular. Extra copies of the Ancestral Orc, Nord and Elf motifs. Things that you run across while adventuring. The only purples you miss out on are one per zone, which really is not in fact that much in the grand scheme of things.

In fact I wish the furniture was tradable, as the motifs actually are, to let people sell spares to anyone who couldn't be bothered to level antiquities on a second character (or indeed, on a first).

Of course, apart from the purple treasures, there are other antiquities that are once-per-account. The Alinor Allemande dance emote, the Dwemer and Ysgramor face and body markings, and similar...

iksde

I simply dont xD
same to guids skillines etc, if they are no need for me I have litereally no reason to grind all this on alts if this grind isnt to enjoyable or is just to tedious, boring, annyoing to be worth to lvl it outside main char

ArchMikem

I am a Cat and I'm digging a hole.

Diggy diggy hole.

jle30303

Talking of guild skill lines, it *is* worth levelling the mages line up to 5... you'll get 2 extra skill points.

And as for the fighters line, if you join the guild, it will level up to 5 (and indeed to 10) in short order whether you want it to or not, from all the Daedra, Undead and Werewolves you'll end up murdering, if your secondary character adventures at all.

But there are a lot of skill lines that it's not really worth levelling up on a second character, unless the reason is to save extra skill points on your first character by taking them *off* that particular skill line. Antiquity hunting, Enchantment and Alchemy can lend themselves very well to being delegated to a secondary character - but you shouldn't need to.

pod88kk

Did it once, won't be doing it again

Sylvermynx

I LOVE doing antiquities on multiple alts. Talk about easy gold.... it's better than writs! I don't get huffed over it - I don't care what "level" an alt gets, as long as the gold is in the bank.

And it's HELLA more fun than writs.

Ackwalan

Go to the smaller zones, the starter islands work, and do the repeatable green and blue ones until you snap.

Hapexamendios

Ackwalan wrote: »

do the repeatable green and blue ones until you snap.

To give you an idea of where I'm at with the repeated greens & blues, Markarth has been out for 6 weeks and I haven't touched them.

katanagirl1

Leads being account wide I did not plan to level up antiquities on my alts.

Now my AD PvE main toon has 10 lancers that my DC PvP alt cannot use because they are character bound.

Great oversight there ZOS.

Integral1900

The tedious bit is reaching gold leads, that’s the soul crushing slog, after that it’s easy

Go to cold harbour with your main archaeologist
Find crafting nodes and in about a minute or two you will have a gold lead
When the gold lead drops, and it will.... log on to levelling character immediately and complete it
Repeat... the cool down will be reset

If you can do gold this blows every other method out of the water

Now all I need is a purple that’s as reliable...🧐

Runefang

Integral1900 wrote: »

The tedious bit is reaching gold leads, that’s the soul crushing slog, after that it’s easy

Go to cold harbour with your main archaeologist
Find crafting nodes and in about a minute or two you will have a gold lead
When the gold lead drops, and it will.... log on to levelling character immediately and complete it
Repeat... the cool down will be reset

If you can do gold this blows every other method out of the water

Now all I need is a purple that’s as reliable...🧐

Why do the nods on your archaeologist? Won't they drop for the levelling toon as well?

Minyassa

I use Coldharbour. The Void Anomaly Crystals are 10 points apiece.

Vevvev

I don't level them up on alts because I don't play my alts. Don't really see a point since our main can literally do everything, however if I had to do it I'd pick a small zone like Eyevea or Arteaum and get scrying like crazy.