Nice Quality of Life Change: Make siege stack

erio

My inventory cries every time i go into cyro

Araneae6537

Make siege stack

Why don’t they stack at all anyway??? It boggles my mind and fills our guild bank!

redspecter23

I'll take a siege bag, included for free with ESO+, then I won't care if they stack or not.

oXI_Viper_IXo

Make siege stack

Yes please

Indigogo

No dont

Honestly a tough one. Yes I would love it for me. Would hate my enemies being able to access like 100 ballista at every siege tho lol.
The way it is means there's only so much a player can carry at a time and fights won't be endless.

Kwoung

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Indigogo wrote: »

Honestly a tough one. Yes I would love it for me. Would hate my enemies being able to access like 100 ballista at every siege tho lol.
The way it is means there's only so much a player can carry at a time and fights won't be endless.

I am pretty sure you can always carry enough siege weapons to complete any siege (win or lose), regardless of whether they stacked or not. I commonly carry 7-10 ballista, 5 meatbags, 4 rams, a couple lancers if I have them and some other random siege. The only times I have ever run out is when I forgot to restock at the prior keep. Banking them afterwards though, what a freaking waste of bank space, its like 40 slots used! How much does 40 bank slots cost on the Crown Store, its pretty pricey.

badmojo

Isnt it a technical limitation that they cant stack due to them having durability?

ErMurazor

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badmojo wrote: »

Isnt it a technical limitation that they cant stack due to them having durability?

This^^ Unused sieges should stack though but then again players could have 1000+ sieges with them in bag.

alterfenixeb17_ESO

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Indigogo wrote: »

Honestly a tough one. Yes I would love it for me. Would hate my enemies being able to access like 100 ballista at every siege tho lol.
The way it is means there's only so much a player can carry at a time and fights won't be endless.

Total capacity of bag is currently 200 out of which usually less than 100 is used by items that cannot be moved to bank so this unlikely will make much of the difference really.

Also question about stacking this 1000 - who really cares since it is unlikely they currently use lets say more than 20 before they resupply even though there is inventory space still? ofc there could be still put some limits such as do not stack more than 5 or do not stack already used ones.

Sanctum74

No dont

The highest damage in the game used from the safety of the walls should have some drawback to it.

Araneae6537

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Indigogo wrote: »

Honestly a tough one. Yes I would love it for me. Would hate my enemies being able to access like 100 ballista at every siege tho lol.
The way it is means there's only so much a player can carry at a time and fights won't be endless.

I hadn’t considered that... Perhaps it would be ideal if they stacked in banks but not in character inventory? So the bank stacks would need to be small — stacks of ten perhaps.

Kwoung

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Sanctum74 wrote: »

The highest damage in the game used from the safety of the walls should have some drawback to it.

Not even close to the highest damage. I can shrug off most siege, except for oils. Players do a ton more damage than siege.

erio

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Sanctum74 wrote: »

The highest damage in the game used from the safety of the walls should have some drawback to it.

It doesnt do that much damage lol. Any why should the drawback be playing the inventory management minigame?

Sanctum74

No dont

Other than a few skills it is the highest damage from the safety of the wall. Sorry the math don’t lie.

erio

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Sanctum74 wrote: »

Other than a few skills it is the highest damage from the safety of the wall. Sorry the math don’t lie.

That has like a 10 second cooldown, and can be easily avoided, can be purged, can be negated with siege shield, and its not an ability lol. If you die to siege thats a l2p issue

Sanctum74

No dont

erio wrote: »

Sanctum74 wrote: »

Other than a few skills it is the highest damage from the safety of the wall. Sorry the math don’t lie.

That has like a 10 second cooldown, and can be easily avoided, can be purged, can be negated with siege shield, and its not an ability lol. If you die to siege thats a l2p issue

When the red telegraph doesn’t appear and you get hit with 3-4 at 8k a piece, yeah it’s a l2p issue. Lol keep trolling, it’s a different word when you get off the wall and actually play the game.

Tommy_The_Gun

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I remember watching some Q&A with ESO Devs on a stream and there was a question about that.
And as far as I remember, the problem was that sieges have their own HP. That is why they do not stack...

But why they did not make "full HP" sieges stack and the non-full HP non stack ? IDK, it is not like it is impossible to make or something... It seems purely a technical issue to me.

Other theory I have seen is that you have a limit of sieges you can carry (200 inventory limit) and it is some kind of balancing factor, so you need to re-supply. With stackable sieges you could potentially have almost like an infinity of them.

Now idk if this is a huge issue, and if it would change something balance-wise, but to me it would be huge QOL improvement.

erio

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Sanctum74 wrote: »

erio wrote: »

Sanctum74 wrote: »

Other than a few skills it is the highest damage from the safety of the wall. Sorry the math don’t lie.

That has like a 10 second cooldown, and can be easily avoided, can be purged, can be negated with siege shield, and its not an ability lol. If you die to siege thats a l2p issue

When the red telegraph doesn’t appear and you get hit with 3-4 at 8k a piece, yeah it’s a l2p issue. Lol keep trolling, it’s a different word when you get off the wall and actually play the game.

No siege should be hitting you for 8k at once. 4-5k at most. If you have your red circles set to default that is a l2p issue lol. My sub assault hits harder lmao.

erio

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Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I remember watching some Q&A with ESO Devs on a stream and there was a question about that.
And as far as I remember, the problem was that sieges have their own HP. That is why they do not stack...

But why they did not make "full HP" sieges stack and the non-full HP non stack ? IDK, it is not like it is impossible to make or something... It seems purely a technical issue to me.

Other theory I have seen is that you have a limit of sieges you can carry (200 inventory limit) and it is some kind of balancing factor, so you need to re-supply. With stackable sieges you could potentially have almost like an infinity of them.

Now idk if this is a huge issue, and if it would change something balance-wise, but to me it would be huge QOL improvement.

Very true. theres an infinite amount of solutions to this problem besides having each individual siege have its slot.

Kwoung

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erio wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I remember watching some Q&A with ESO Devs on a stream and there was a question about that.
And as far as I remember, the problem was that sieges have their own HP. That is why they do not stack...

But why they did not make "full HP" sieges stack and the non-full HP non stack ? IDK, it is not like it is impossible to make or something... It seems purely a technical issue to me.

Other theory I have seen is that you have a limit of sieges you can carry (200 inventory limit) and it is some kind of balancing factor, so you need to re-supply. With stackable sieges you could potentially have almost like an infinity of them.

Now idk if this is a huge issue, and if it would change something balance-wise, but to me it would be huge QOL improvement.

Very true. theres an infinite amount of solutions to this problem besides having each individual siege have its slot.

Like a "Siege Bag" you unlock at Alliance Rank 10 or something.

thegreat_one

Well part of defending a keep is to use fire seige on the enemy ballistas/ram/treb etc. and burn them down.

But the defenders and attackers do have merchants near by they can replenish them on.

ThreeXB

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Yes, new unused siege should stack

idk

Seige does not stack because each is a unique item due to wear and tear. It is the same reason armor and weapons do not stack.

Kwoung

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idk wrote: »

Seige does not stack because each is a unique item due to wear and tear. It is the same reason armor and weapons do not stack.

That could be easily handled by the game always grabbing the unstacked "used" one when you use the quickslot and stacking all the unused new ones. Thus a stack and a extra used one in inventory (2 slots), instead of 10 of various health (10 slots) cluttering your inventory/bank.

Then if a player didn't want even 2 stacks, they just leave the used one at the last siege to deteriorate and be done with it.

Ghostbane

Kwoung wrote: »

erio wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I remember watching some Q&A with ESO Devs on a stream and there was a question about that.
And as far as I remember, the problem was that sieges have their own HP. That is why they do not stack...

But why they did not make "full HP" sieges stack and the non-full HP non stack ? IDK, it is not like it is impossible to make or something... It seems purely a technical issue to me.

Other theory I have seen is that you have a limit of sieges you can carry (200 inventory limit) and it is some kind of balancing factor, so you need to re-supply. With stackable sieges you could potentially have almost like an infinity of them.

Now idk if this is a huge issue, and if it would change something balance-wise, but to me it would be huge QOL improvement.

Very true. theres an infinite amount of solutions to this problem besides having each individual siege have its slot.

Like a "Siege Bag" you unlock at Alliance Rank 10 or something.

Bruh, with some guilds, the sheer amount of electricity consumed to power those SSDs on servers to retain that data..

Joy_Division

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Indigogo wrote: »

Honestly a tough one. Yes I would love it for me. Would hate my enemies being able to access like 100 ballista at every siege tho lol.
The way it is means there's only so much a player can carry at a time and fights won't be endless.

Who cares? While they are setting down their 67th ballista, the first 61 have deteriorated into nothingness and I'll just kill them.

Greasytengu

Make siege stack

Joy_Division wrote: »

Indigogo wrote: »

Honestly a tough one. Yes I would love it for me. Would hate my enemies being able to access like 100 ballista at every siege tho lol.
The way it is means there's only so much a player can carry at a time and fights won't be endless.

Who cares? While they are setting down their 67th ballista, the first 61 have deteriorated into nothingness and I'll just kill them.

And its not like there isnt a siege cap or anything around keeps, if one person wants to supply a raid with siege, I say let them!

idk

Kwoung wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Seige does not stack because each is a unique item due to wear and tear. It is the same reason armor and weapons do not stack.

That could be easily handled by the game always grabbing the unstacked "used" one when you use the quickslot and stacking all the unused new ones. Thus a stack and a extra used one in inventory (2 slots), instead of 10 of various health (10 slots) cluttering your inventory/bank.

Then if a player didn't want even 2 stacks, they just leave the used one at the last siege to deteriorate and be done with it.

That would he an easy way to define things however, that doesn't mean it's an easy change.

It would require building a system in the game to change the identifier for a piece of seige from a general identifier to a unique identifier. New systems are often not simple or easy.

Oakenaxe

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New update coming, I think it is about time this becomes a thing, isn't it?

Veinblood1965

Perfect! I came here to post this very thing. And for those that argue you can't stack them in real life, you can't carry 200 stackable furnishing items either.

rbfrgsp

No dont

No. On PC EU there are a bunch of crap players who troll siege arrius from the mine. The easiest way to deal with them is to run over and murder the siege vendor at the mine so that they have to leave to restock. If these people had 300+ engines in their inventory then they would literally never stop.