Ice wall still crashes people

tripp

Title. THREE WEEKS and my magden is STILL unplayable.
I have no words.

Ellimist_Entreri

Just to clarify as it might be something to do with a particle or other effect of a particular morph - is it the base skill https://eso-skillbook.com/skill/wall-of-elements or one of the morphs on it, https://eso-skillbook.com/skill/unstable-wall-of-elements or https://eso-skillbook.com/skill/elemental-blockade ?

If it is a specific morph causing this then that info could help the devs track down the issue. Also, are you getting any crash logs/reporter popup when this happens? If not can you open Windows Event Viewer and pull up the application event log for the crash? That might have at least some information that could point to a cause in the codebase!

tripp

unstable wall, because it's a fantastic mobbing tool with the reworked destruction expert passive
no crash log generated, nothing unusual in client/interface logs

Ellimist_Entreri

tripp wrote: »

unstable wall, because it's a fantastic mobbing tool with the reworked destruction expert passive
no crash log generated, nothing unusual in client/interface logs

Unstable Wall is great now (minus any potential crashing ^_^) isn't it? I have enjoyed using it as well!
I have also noticed myself that the game client isn't generating anything useful with these current crashes/hangs, that is why I suggested checking the Windows Event Viewer (which will in fact generate a log of the event with some information even when the game client itself fails to if on PC).
You can also dig deeper and check the "Security and Maintenance Control Panel" "Problem History" section for additional information (Also if on PC)!

NettleCarrier

Any proof of this? I run Ice/Ice while farming, questing, and doing guild events and I only crashed once in Summerset when a bunch of us crashed at the Queen boss. We did other zones without issue and I haven't crashed anyone with unstable wall Ice anywhere else to my knowledge.

tripp

It's still happening, just got booted out of TI.
Now I see people spamming it at crowded locations to grief people. Surely enough some of them stop moving and disappear.

HauteclereM

Thinking about it... I've definitely crashed myself several times in otherwise stable locations because I was spamming unstable wall of frost while bored lol. There's a noticeable FPS drop with the new frost wall effect on players, maybe that's part of it?

Sephyr

HauteclereM wrote: »

Thinking about it... I've definitely crashed myself several times in otherwise stable locations because I was spamming unstable wall of frost while bored lol. There's a noticeable FPS drop with the new frost wall effect on players, maybe that's part of it?

Might be worth checking into, but some of the reflection settings of the particle wall that pops up around players can be turned down. Although I wouldn't think this would prevent someone from crashing. Still, that's the only guess I can come up with until ZOS does something to fix it.

White wabbit

I spam it on my Warden Tank on Xbox and isn’t causing any issues

tripp

It's still happening, just got booted out of TI.
Now I see people spamming it at crowded locations to grief people. Surely enough some of them stop moving and disappear.
What was the *** patch even for?
Five weeks and counting and this STILL hasn't been addressed.

NettleCarrier

@tripp
You literally just said the same thing you said a few days ago, that doesn't make it new.

This patch note "Fixed a crash that could occur when a character had many spell effects active" could very likely be the patch notes you are looking for. Also, players stop moving and disappear? Perhaps they are just logging out. When I do my writs I often run to the board to set myself up for the next day and log off and since it is a city the logout is instant, a crash would likely result in them standing still for an entire 2-3 minutes until the game kicks them out.

Personally, I play with an ice staff on my main constantly and have not seen it be a source of disconnect for myself or my guildies. I have seen crashes for Lich bosses (also mentioned in the notes) and also oddly at the bridge Lamia fight in Arx on three occasions. Other than that I have not crashed in the last 30-40 hours of playtime spamming dungeons and trials.

tripp

I will bump the thread with every new patch until it gets fixed.
Also "works on my machine" isn't an argument. Grab an ice staff, go into a crowded area and start spamming icy unstable wall of elements. NOT blockade. See how long you last before your game craps itself.
edit: no, *** this. 6 crashes today, 3rd time I'm forced to redo a pledge. The patch made everythying worse. Cancelling the sub until this garbage is resolved.

NettleCarrier

My main is a magwarden, I run double Ice for all solo content and even occasionally in groups/trials to keep brittle up. I am using unstable wall. I don't spam it in town because well... that's just obnoxious. I've never crashed fighting a world boss or in any group while running this same setup - nor have I heard about this issue outside of this thread.

athena9205

I run my game on minimum settings with high sub. lowest particle setting i can and 30 foot view distance. I'm seeing other crash but for many days now i haven't. I'm wondering if it is the graphics that are crashing players. And to the ice wall, i do unstable wall on my ice warden and my magDK all the time with no noticeable effects.