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Perf Maelstrom Bow crit

croakie
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Does the extra crit on a perfected maelstrom bow count on the front bar too if the bow is infused?
  • virtus753
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    No, infused does not apply to set bonuses, and it cannot make back bar set bonuses apply to the front bar.

    Infused improves the strength and cuts the cooldown of the weapon enchantment, and something like a weapon damage glyph procced from the back bar does still apply for its stated duration and value even if you switch to the front bar while it is procced. (You then need to return to the back bar to proc that same enchantment again.)

    But crit is a set bonus in this context, and no trait will cause that to apply to the front bar.
  • Shantu
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    No, infused does not apply to set bonuses, and it cannot make back bar set bonuses apply to the front bar.

    Infused improves the strength and cuts the cooldown of the weapon enchantment, and something like a weapon damage glyph procced from the back bar does still apply for its stated duration and value even if you switch to the front bar while it is procced. (You then need to return to the back bar to proc that same enchantment again.)

    But crit is a set bonus in this context, and no trait will cause that to apply to the front bar.

    Which, like the penetration bonus on destruction staves, makes the bonus on these "perfected" weapons practically useless. I've always wondered about the logic behind this as it certainly doesn't justify the frustration of farming vMA to get them.
  • Nord_Raseri
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    Honestly, it's just not worth refarming for perfected if you've already gotten a bow in the past. I still use mine that I got from my very first vma clear and I'm on back bar just long enough to hit endless hail before bar swapping. That extra crit on back bar is negligent at best.
    Veit ég aðég hékk vindga meiði á nætr allar níu, geiri undaðr og gefinn Oðni, sjálfr sjálfum mér, á þeim meiði er manngi veit hvers hann af rótum rennr.
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    Shantu wrote: »
    virtus753 wrote: »
    No, infused does not apply to set bonuses, and it cannot make back bar set bonuses apply to the front bar.

    Infused improves the strength and cuts the cooldown of the weapon enchantment, and something like a weapon damage glyph procced from the back bar does still apply for its stated duration and value even if you switch to the front bar while it is procced. (You then need to return to the back bar to proc that same enchantment again.)

    But crit is a set bonus in this context, and no trait will cause that to apply to the front bar.

    Which, like the penetration bonus on destruction staves, makes the bonus on these "perfected" weapons practically useless. I've always wondered about the logic behind this as it certainly doesn't justify the frustration of farming vMA to get them.

    Absolutely, but there is a certain logic to it—just one that isn’t good PR to admit. They tacked on an essentially useless bonus that might as well be 666 unicorns and declined to honor the fact players had already farmed those weapons on vet, thereby driving people to grind untouched old content again for a minimal investment of developer resources, whether for the sake of having a “Perfected” weapon or for following the meta or for getting the satisfaction of that extra set bonus line or (now) filling the sticker book, etc. They may not call the game an MMO, but they sure like to borrow tips and tricks from the handbook.
  • croakie
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    Thanks. Beat VMA for the first time yesterday and got a bow.
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    croakie wrote: »
    Thanks. Beat VMA for the first time yesterday and got a bow.

    Congrats! That first clear is the hardest for sure.
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    croakie wrote: »
    Thanks. Beat VMA for the first time yesterday and got a bow.
    Congratulation, and yes the first time is way harder than later runs.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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    Honestly, it's just not worth refarming for perfected if you've already gotten a bow in the past. I still use mine that I got from my very first vma clear and I'm on back bar just long enough to hit endless hail before bar swapping. That extra crit on back bar is negligent at best.

    Yeah, but at least its something. Penetration buffs on the back bar are nothing.
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