Sticker book and crafting motifs

phbell

I absolutely love the sticker book addition to the game and it has invigorated my interest in playing. I am wondering, however, why we cannot do a similar thing with Crafting Motifs. I see little reason why those cannot also be account wide. Any thoughts for the Collective?

AlnilamE

Why would they be? You can craft craftable sets at any time you wish.

And how would this even work? Would you have to craft one piece of each set to be able to reconstruct them with transmute stones? In white, since that's the "lowest they drop at" equivalent?

Azorean

AlnilamE wrote: »

Why would they be? You can craft craftable sets at any time you wish.

And how would this even work? Would you have to craft one piece of each set to be able to reconstruct them with transmute stones? In white, since that's the "lowest they drop at" equivalent?

I think they meant more like a collectible tab and be shared for the account

Azorean

phbell wrote: »

I absolutely love the sticker book addition to the game and it has invigorated my interest in playing. I am wondering, however, why we cannot do a similar thing with Crafting Motifs. I see little reason why those cannot also be account wide. Any thoughts for the Collective?

I don't think is necessary you already have the outfit which is account bound.

Also motif is a great source of gold for people and a reason to farm old dungeons, without that the prices would drop a lot

Faiza

I don't need my alts to be able to craft the motifs, bc I don't do master writs on my alts, but it'd be nice if they could at least use the outfit style at the outfit table.

DMuehlhausen

phbell wrote: »

I absolutely love the sticker book addition to the game and it has invigorated my interest in playing. I am wondering, however, why we cannot do a similar thing with Crafting Motifs. I see little reason why those cannot also be account wide. Any thoughts for the Collective?

In theory they are. Not for achievement purposes, but if you use a motif on one character any can use it as an outfit.

menathradiel

Faiza wrote: »

I don't need my alts to be able to craft the motifs, bc I don't do master writs on my alts, but it'd be nice if they could at least use the outfit style at the outfit table.

They can already. I've used the outfit style system to outfit my alts when they don't know the motifs.

Faiza

menathradiel wrote: »

Faiza wrote: »

I don't need my alts to be able to craft the motifs, bc I don't do master writs on my alts, but it'd be nice if they could at least use the outfit style at the outfit table.

They can already. I've used the outfit style system to outfit my alts when they don't know the motifs.

I'll have to hop on during my lunch break today to double check then.

Last time I tried my alts could use the basic styles that I has them learn for craft writs

redspecter23

phbell wrote: »

I absolutely love the sticker book addition to the game and it has invigorated my interest in playing. I am wondering, however, why we cannot do a similar thing with Crafting Motifs. I see little reason why those cannot also be account wide. Any thoughts for the Collective?

This is a great idea. I support it 100%.

Not only make them account wide, but add an easy location to see your progress toward earning them all.

There is practically no good reason for motif knowledge to be locked on to one character and plenty of positive reasons to make it account wide. It's one of the last remaining aspects of the game that "locks" players into a main crafter. The other being recipe/furnishing knowledge which I think could use the same treatment.

menathradiel

Faiza wrote: »

menathradiel wrote: »

Faiza wrote: »

I don't need my alts to be able to craft the motifs, bc I don't do master writs on my alts, but it'd be nice if they could at least use the outfit style at the outfit table.

They can already. I've used the outfit style system to outfit my alts when they don't know the motifs.

I'll have to hop on during my lunch break today to double check then.

Last time I tried my alts could use the basic styles that I has them learn for craft writs

I have ESO+ - I don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Faiza

menathradiel wrote: »

Faiza wrote: »

menathradiel wrote: »

Faiza wrote: »

I don't need my alts to be able to craft the motifs, bc I don't do master writs on my alts, but it'd be nice if they could at least use the outfit style at the outfit table.

They can already. I've used the outfit style system to outfit my alts when they don't know the motifs.

I'll have to hop on during my lunch break today to double check then.

Last time I tried my alts could use the basic styles that I has them learn for craft writs

I have ESO+ - I don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Hey, you were right! Maybe I was experiencing a user error the first time I tried it lol.

I'm very happy now that my necromancer can wear the Minotaur hat I got for him 😊

phbell

Azorean wrote: »

phbell wrote: »

I absolutely love the sticker book addition to the game and it has invigorated my interest in playing. I am wondering, however, why we cannot do a similar thing with Crafting Motifs. I see little reason why those cannot also be account wide. Any thoughts for the Collective?

I don't think is necessary you already have the outfit which is account bound.

Also motif is a great source of gold for people and a reason to farm old dungeons, without that the prices would drop a lot

Sure. But i will only buy it once regardless of the number of characters i have.

cnyanes

Crafting styles already are account-wide when it comes to outfit appearance.

heaven13

redspecter23 wrote: »

phbell wrote: »

I absolutely love the sticker book addition to the game and it has invigorated my interest in playing. I am wondering, however, why we cannot do a similar thing with Crafting Motifs. I see little reason why those cannot also be account wide. Any thoughts for the Collective?

This is a great idea. I support it 100%.

Not only make them account wide, but add an easy location to see your progress toward earning them all.

There is practically no good reason for motif knowledge to be locked on to one character and plenty of positive reasons to make it account wide. It's one of the last remaining aspects of the game that "locks" players into a main crafter. The other being recipe/furnishing knowledge which I think could use the same treatment.

They would need to completely rework how master writs are rewarded, then, being that the drop rate for them is currently affected by complete motif knowledge (knowing all of a specific chapter, not just some pages), trait knowledge, and level.

redspecter23

heaven13 wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

phbell wrote: »

I absolutely love the sticker book addition to the game and it has invigorated my interest in playing. I am wondering, however, why we cannot do a similar thing with Crafting Motifs. I see little reason why those cannot also be account wide. Any thoughts for the Collective?

This is a great idea. I support it 100%.

Not only make them account wide, but add an easy location to see your progress toward earning them all.

There is practically no good reason for motif knowledge to be locked on to one character and plenty of positive reasons to make it account wide. It's one of the last remaining aspects of the game that "locks" players into a main crafter. The other being recipe/furnishing knowledge which I think could use the same treatment.

They would need to completely rework how master writs are rewarded, then, being that the drop rate for them is currently affected by complete motif knowledge (knowing all of a specific chapter, not just some pages), trait knowledge, and level.

I'm sure they could adjust if necessary. I'm not certain that it would matter much if more master writs enter the economy. In my opinion, the best ones are alchemy and enchanting anyway and neither of those depend on motif knowledge at all. Part of the reason I find those ones more desirable is the exact point of this thread. I can use them on characters with lv 50 in those skill lines without needing to know 1 of about 90 various styles.

But you do have a point. They could lower the overall drop rate, knowing that every character on an account would basically have the motif knowledge of the one singular alt with the greatest current amount.

Even with that issue, the positives far outweigh the negatives.

cynicalbutterfly

The style is account wide but knowing the lore needed to actually craft something in that style is not. For example #1 knows the lore for Outlaw style but #2 does not. If #2 is your crafter, you would need to read the Outlaw page once again to unlock it at the crafting station.

I found this little tidbit out the hard way. I had bought a writ thinking I had all the qualifications. Started it and traveled to the crafting station only to find out that the style I needed was greyed out. I had it on another character but that one wasn't a crafter. I had to buy the style (20k for a style I already 'knew') to finish the writ.

Would definitely be nice to see even the lore acount wide. But I don't see it happening. Best thing to do is to only read motifs on your crafter in case you need them later on.