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Stop giving console broken stuff and taking forever to fix it

AmendmentI
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Gotta say you are doing a great job of showing that the experience on console matters in the slightest. Really feeling the love here when console issues get to remain in game for weeks or months. Kyne's Aegis has been broken since Greymoor was released. Still cannot use certain abilities in the last fight without causing several people to DC or crash. Even though Kyne's was released 5 months ago now. Also really loving not having a date for the light attack bug you knowingly pushed out to us. Hope you weren't progressing any difficult content on magicka characters anytime soon 🤣. But of course this will get either deleted or locked because it's easier than answering for why console players can't get a decent response for the issues.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6835061#

Posted, got a reply from someone and still nothing. And this is not the first or last time the console players are expected to just ignore the bugs we get and continue playing like everything is fine.
  • AmendmentI
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    Seriously, is it too much to get a decent response to some issues for this game on console?
  • Danksta
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    ZoS agrees that PC is the master race. You see that pin at the top of the screen? Wonder why there's not one for console?
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  • AmendmentI
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    Clearly. Because they looked at all those bugs, saw some of them wouldn't be fixed when it was released for console and said "close enough".
  • hexentb16_ESO
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    Some people tend to defend the delayed release on console releases by saying that bugs present on PC wont even make it to us. This isn't the case. I remember talking about a bug in Greymoor with my mate who plays pc. He said it was fixed day 2 of the dlc. I'm on xbox and we had it for almost a month after it had been patched on pc. I know they have to get updates approved on xbox and that the process can takes a bit of time but with how long it takes for some bugs to be fixed on console I doubt that process can take all the blame.
  • mobicera
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    I've seen a few people state the incremental patch that fixes the light attack bug as well as a few other things is releasing December 2nd for console.
    When I asked where they got the information from I was told some ongoing live stream.
    Since I care nothing for those I can't confirm myself.
    However its been posted by a few people at this point.
  • AmendmentI
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    mobicera wrote: »
    I've seen a few people state the incremental patch that fixes the light attack bug as well as a few other things is releasing December 2nd for console.
    When I asked where they got the information from I was told some ongoing live stream.
    Since I care nothing for those I can't confirm myself.
    However its been posted by a few people at this point.

    Yeah really showing they deserve our money by not fixing it until almost a month later. But it's fine as long as we keep covering for it. Even though Kyne's Aegis will have been broken for almost 6 months at that point. Can you complete it? Yes. Can you use the abilities that cause disconnects? Nope
    Edited by AmendmentI on November 13, 2020 10:16PM
  • mobicera
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    AmendmentI wrote: »
    mobicera wrote: »
    I've seen a few people state the incremental patch that fixes the light attack bug as well as a few other things is releasing December 2nd for console.
    When I asked where they got the information from I was told some ongoing live stream.
    Since I care nothing for those I can't confirm myself.
    However its been posted by a few people at this point.

    Yeah really showing they deserve our money by not fixing it until almost a month later. But it's fine as long as we keep covering for it

    I'm not defending them.
    I'm pissed.
    All my progression trials have been put on hold.
    What are the chances of them just starting back up again?
    I mean this patch killed mid to end game.
    No one is really running anything.
    And if we have to wait a month...
    I was just passing on information.
    If I said what I really feel and think I would be banned from these forums.
  • volkeswagon
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    Yeah, people who simply say what they feel without thinking of others or consequences are known as sociopaths so Its good you can control your emotions. As for this game it is so huge that it must be a real chore to troubleshoot issues in. It's probably just as frustrating for the developers as it is for those experiencing them. I'm fortunate I don't enjoy trials or pvp because I'd probably be a lot more sour towards the game if I did since that seems to be where most issues are exposed.
  • AmendmentI
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  • ShawnLaRock
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    My whole thing - which I have ranted about on the forums before - is that we see all of the problems on PC releases... yet we STILL get the same broken roll-out, even with the delay in release times.

    It’s like... WHYYYY? If so much content is going to be unplayable anyway, why not just hold off until it is hot-fixed?

    S.
  • Tsar_Gekkou
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    At this point I don't know why console players continue to buy crowns. Zos spits in our faces time and time again but we keep throwing money at them.
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  • EL3ZD33
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    Why wouldn’t you delay the release like any company who cares about what the product represents. This is the best that they can do obviously.
  • davidj8291
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    AmendmentI wrote: »
    Seriously, is it too much to get a decent response to some issues for this game on console?

    Apparently. Console always gets the short stick
  • eso_lags
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    AmendmentI wrote: »
    Gotta say you are doing a great job of showing that the experience on console matters in the slightest. Really feeling the love here when console issues get to remain in game for weeks or months. Kyne's Aegis has been broken since Greymoor was released. Still cannot use certain abilities in the last fight without causing several people to DC or crash. Even though Kyne's was released 5 months ago now. Also really loving not having a date for the light attack bug you knowingly pushed out to us. Hope you weren't progressing any difficult content on magicka characters anytime soon 🤣. But of course this will get either deleted or locked because it's easier than answering for why console players can't get a decent response for the issues.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6835061#

    Posted, got a reply from someone and still nothing. And this is not the first or last time the console players are expected to just ignore the bugs we get and continue playing like everything is fine.

    Amen, thats how its always felt on console. Second class.
  • Gythral
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    But they give the same broken stuff to PC first, so at least console players have time to adapt to the 'new' standard...
    PC just get broken content and patches to further break things...

    :wink:
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  • DragonRacer
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    Gythral wrote: »
    But they give the same broken stuff to PC first, so at least console players have time to adapt to the 'new' standard...
    PC just get broken content and patches to further break things...

    :wink:

    For those in my guild who don't visit the forums, I pre-warn them about what breaks are coming with a new update based on watching the PC threads here and they think I'm Nostradamus. XD

    I'm like, "Seriously, just read the forums. Because whatever breaks on PC gets pushed to us regardless and then we sit broken for almost a month after PC gets fixed. It is known."
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  • CleymenZero
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    AmendmentI wrote: »
    Gotta say you are doing a great job of showing that the experience on console matters in the slightest. Really feeling the love here when console issues get to remain in game for weeks or months. Kyne's Aegis has been broken since Greymoor was released. Still cannot use certain abilities in the last fight without causing several people to DC or crash. Even though Kyne's was released 5 months ago now. Also really loving not having a date for the light attack bug you knowingly pushed out to us. Hope you weren't progressing any difficult content on magicka characters anytime soon 🤣. But of course this will get either deleted or locked because it's easier than answering for why console players can't get a decent response for the issues.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6835061#

    Posted, got a reply from someone and still nothing. And this is not the first or last time the console players are expected to just ignore the bugs we get and continue playing like everything is fine.

    PC player here, can't run any trials right now. I systematically crash.

    The only silver lining is there is a patch on Monday. Let's just hope they don't broke mote things.

    I can't believe you guys are going to wait until December for a fix... That's completely insane... What the F*=%+- were they thinking....
  • Thechuckage
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    AmendmentI wrote: »
    Gotta say you are doing a great job of showing that the experience on console matters in the slightest. Really feeling the love here when console issues get to remain in game for weeks or months. Kyne's Aegis has been broken since Greymoor was released. Still cannot use certain abilities in the last fight without causing several people to DC or crash. Even though Kyne's was released 5 months ago now. Also really loving not having a date for the light attack bug you knowingly pushed out to us. Hope you weren't progressing any difficult content on magicka characters anytime soon 🤣. But of course this will get either deleted or locked because it's easier than answering for why console players can't get a decent response for the issues.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6835061#

    Posted, got a reply from someone and still nothing. And this is not the first or last time the console players are expected to just ignore the bugs we get and continue playing like everything is fine.

    PC player here, can't run any trials right now. I systematically crash.

    The only silver lining is there is a patch on Monday. Let's just hope they don't broke mote things.

    I can't believe you guys are going to wait until December for a fix... That's completely insane... What the F*=%+- were they thinking....

    Let's just hope they don't broke mote things. Oh yea of far too great faith.

    But what I really dont understand is all the "well they are working from home, so the quality is going to suffer" or the "the game is just too large to properly maintain" as valid excuses. If you cannot keep pace with bug fixes, slow down with content / hire more people.

    Shoveling broken on top of broken will lead to predictable results.
  • Nomadic_Atmoran
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    Might want to get used to it. Now that new gen is out current gen systems will slowly take a backseat to troubleshooting and bugfixing. They pushed this mess out a day early in anticipation of the work they'd need to do with launch of the new consoles. We obviously aren't priority.
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  • twev
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    Might want to get used to it. Now that new gen is out current gen systems will slowly take a backseat to troubleshooting and bugfixing. They pushed this mess out a day early in anticipation of the work they'd need to do with launch of the new consoles. We obviously aren't priority.

    Lets inject a little reality.
    The only people who seem to be priority are the ones clamoring for new content who (for all intents and purposes) communicate things like 'release it faster, we don't care if it's broken, just as long as it's 'new'.
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
  • AmendmentI
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    Vhof- dcs on pinnacle
    Vka- dcs on final
    VCR- zmaja doesn't wipe group anymore if the portal team fails
    Vhof- pinnacle doesnt fully wipe the group

    And there are several other issues on console right now. Playing on xbox is really fun right now
  • carlos424
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    AmendmentI wrote: »
    Gotta say you are doing a great job of showing that the experience on console matters in the slightest. Really feeling the love here when console issues get to remain in game for weeks or months. Kyne's Aegis has been broken since Greymoor was released. Still cannot use certain abilities in the last fight without causing several people to DC or crash. Even though Kyne's was released 5 months ago now. Also really loving not having a date for the light attack bug you knowingly pushed out to us. Hope you weren't progressing any difficult content on magicka characters anytime soon 🤣. But of course this will get either deleted or locked because it's easier than answering for why console players can't get a decent response for the issues.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6835061#

    Posted, got a reply from someone and still nothing. And this is not the first or last time the console players are expected to just ignore the bugs we get and continue playing like everything is fine.

    but, but, you get double node drops
  • Mik195
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    Isn't there an undaunted event this month? And no fixes for console until next month? Awesome...not.
  • Firstmep
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    Danksta wrote: »
    ZoS agrees that PC is the master race. You see that pin at the top of the screen? Wonder why there's not one for console?

    I mean pc got the same bugs after 6 weeks of pts, even tho most of the issues were reported week 1.

    Trust me thr game is plenty broken on pc.
  • AmendmentI
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    Firstmep wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    ZoS agrees that PC is the master race. You see that pin at the top of the screen? Wonder why there's not one for console?

    I mean pc got the same bugs after 6 weeks of pts, even tho most of the issues were reported week 1.

    Trust me thr game is plenty broken on pc.

    True. But at least with PC fixes can get pushed out faster than console. Giving console something that doesnt work properly for a variety of reasons and then not being able to fix it for several weeks or months? That's just absurd.
  • UntilValhalla13
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    Are we even sure that they're going to fix the light attack bug on the 2nd? Like, did they find out the problem and know exactly how to fix it without breaking the last functioning 15% of the game?

    They keep tweaking things that no one asked for, which always breaks something, somewhere. We're still having stamina bugs from back when they added the block/sprint changes, for example...
    Edited by UntilValhalla13 on November 15, 2020 11:59PM
  • Kurat
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    davidj8291 wrote: »
    AmendmentI wrote: »
    Seriously, is it too much to get a decent response to some issues for this game on console?

    Apparently. Console always gets the short stick

    PC has the same bugs. PC gets fixed before console but PC also got the dlc with bugs before console.
  • AmendmentI
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    Kurat wrote: »
    davidj8291 wrote: »
    AmendmentI wrote: »
    Seriously, is it too much to get a decent response to some issues for this game on console?

    Apparently. Console always gets the short stick

    PC has the same bugs. PC gets fixed before console but PC also got the dlc with bugs before console.

    True. Which only makes it worse since it was reported plenty before it was released to us. There are dozens of bugs on console right now. Some are shared with PC and others aren't. It's going to take forever for console to see fixes for most of them and a decent number of issues aren't new
    Edited by AmendmentI on November 16, 2020 9:20PM
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    AmendmentI wrote: »
    Kurat wrote: »
    davidj8291 wrote: »
    AmendmentI wrote: »
    Seriously, is it too much to get a decent response to some issues for this game on console?

    Apparently. Console always gets the short stick

    PC has the same bugs. PC gets fixed before console but PC also got the dlc with bugs before console.

    True. Which only makes it worse since it was reported plenty before it was released to us. There are dozens of bugs on console right now. Some are shared with PC and others aren't. It's going to take forever for console to see fixes for most of them and a decent number of issues aren't new

    What's even worse is that this patch didn't exactly fix a lot of those issues they aimed to fix, so I'd say hunker down on console and maybe find something else to play for a month or two until they can fix it. :#
  • Mankeyyyyy
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    You PC guys remember the Necro Bash build that you had for like a week? We had that for close to like 3 months on xbox and it was the dumbest build to ever grace cyrodiil.
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