Templar Potl

Kryser

Can templar potl ability please get a unique debuff.


DK has poop rock
Sorc has Crystal weapon

please and thank you

Firstmep

I'd settle for them fixing the skill so it doesn't just like 2k dmg after offloading on someone for 6s with onslaught rolling.

Ishtharo

POTL needs some serious help. It's a delayed damage burst ability that takes too much effort to get working, and the payoff is more disappointing than getting catfished.

Mr_Nobody

Dont worry, the next class is going to have something similar to potl but it will actually work and deal damage.

ealdwin

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

Dont worry, the next class is going to have something similar to potl but it will actually work and deal damage.

Watch, it will be some combination of Daedric Curse and Backlash. AoE delayed explosion on target, applies AoE Major Breach, explosion damage increases by 50% of the damage you and allies do to target (no cap). And it will be 20% cheaper.

2 years later, right before new class releases, it gets nerfed to the ESO equivalent of getting hit with a pillow.

techyeshic

It really feels like a waste of a global. I find my favorite part is that I see it clear, it means its time to refresh buffs. Think I can just watch my addons for that.

West93

And it's not going to be adjusted any time soon.

Wait another 9months looking at 2k potl ticks in pvp, because potl still works in pve and people complain about templars doing 90k+ target dummies parse with jab spam.

Wait till you get jab damage nerf and templar will become officially dead.

Drdeath20

Templars will never see any real changes. The games old, theres just no reason for them to bother anymore

MellowMagic

It should atleast scale off weapon damage not just max stamina. The damage is so low in pvp even if you build for it.

West93

MellowMagic wrote: »

It should atleast scale off weapon damage not just max stamina. The damage is so low in pvp even if you build for it.

This is true. Originally it was a group focused skill that would feed on everyones damage to build up max stack, that's why it released 20% of damage done so it would be harder to reach maximum stack cap.

They removed this group stacking damage so only templar can feed backlash damage but left same 20% damage released condition which makes it hard to reach it's cap in pvp.

After another nerf it hits on average, maybe 3k if it crits.

Today on stamplar in grayhost, I used pierce armor (had total 18k penetration reached), toppling charge (offbalance 10% + 10% from CP passive damage modifier) 5.6k weapon damage buffed 27.5k max stamina, minor berserk proc 5%, dawnbreaker of smitting hit for ~7k + did 12ticks of jabs + light attack weave (average individual jab tick 1.7k) + burning light 3 ticks and potl exploded for whopping 2.9k after this combo.

Now compare this to any other delayed burst ability.

Tomorrow I'll use CMX and show spreadsheet of such examples maybe if I am not lazy.

Hakkanistorm

in stam damage reaches about 3-5 thousand not crit, but in magic really 2-3 thousand with a ring of 25%

techyeshic

I would like it to just baseline provide major breach. Just to add some utility to it at least

For magplar then, it might compel you to use this and restoring aura rather than ele drain.

For stamplar; it would free you up from having to go 1h and shield when we already are stuck with 2her for brutality and a burst heal.

ealdwin

techyeshic wrote: »

I would like it to just baseline provide major breach. Just to add some utility to it at least

For magplar then, it might compel you to use this and restoring aura rather than ele drain.

For stamplar; it would free you up from having to go 1h and shield when we already are stuck with 2her for brutality and a burst heal.

I really like this idea, though PotL would need something nice for it's secondary effect (perhaps a singular heal for caster when effect ends?).

I don't know if it was related to the bugs with ranged attacks affecting light attack weaving, but Ele Drain was giving me some issues last week so I swapped it out for Radiant Aura. It's not a half bad skill in terms of look and feel casting it, it's just near useless in what it actually does compared to Ele Drain. So, a solution that might make it worthwhile via change to another skill would be welcome.

techyeshic

ealdwin wrote: »

techyeshic wrote: »

I would like it to just baseline provide major breach. Just to add some utility to it at least

For magplar then, it might compel you to use this and restoring aura rather than ele drain.

For stamplar; it would free you up from having to go 1h and shield when we already are stuck with 2her for brutality and a burst heal.

I really like this idea, though PotL would need something nice for it's secondary effect (perhaps a singular heal for caster when effect ends?).

I don't know if it was related to the bugs with ranged attacks affecting light attack weaving, but Ele Drain was giving me some issues last week so I swapped it out for Radiant Aura. It's not a half bad skill in terms of look and feel casting it, it's just near useless in what it actually does compared to Ele Drain. So, a solution that might make it worthwhile via change to another skill would be welcome.

POTL would still have the minor breach making it effectively ransack with class flavor range and "burst" mechanic.

ealdwin

techyeshic wrote: »

ealdwin wrote: »

techyeshic wrote: »

I would like it to just baseline provide major breach. Just to add some utility to it at least

For magplar then, it might compel you to use this and restoring aura rather than ele drain.

For stamplar; it would free you up from having to go 1h and shield when we already are stuck with 2her for brutality and a burst heal.

I really like this idea, though PotL would need something nice for it's secondary effect (perhaps a singular heal for caster when effect ends?).

I don't know if it was related to the bugs with ranged attacks affecting light attack weaving, but Ele Drain was giving me some issues last week so I swapped it out for Radiant Aura. It's not a half bad skill in terms of look and feel casting it, it's just near useless in what it actually does compared to Ele Drain. So, a solution that might make it worthwhile via change to another skill would be welcome.

POTL would still have the minor breach making it effectively ransack with class flavor range and "burst" mechanic.

Ah, yes. Got the major/minor on POTL mixed up.

Athan1

Templar skills started off really good but most of them have now been nerfed to Oblivion. And it's all because a few players moan about a Templar killing them in pvp.

Like, for real, this class needs a rework of its skills and serious buffs to completely underused skills. PotL used to be one of the unique debuffs a Templar could offer to a group, and now a single pierce armor does all the work. It does need a unique debuff or to absorb group damage like it used to.

maxjapank

Has anyone seen POTL used in the last year? Does anyone keep it on their bars?

Firstmep

Hakkanistorm wrote: »

in stam damage reaches about 3-5 thousand not crit, but in magic really 2-3 thousand with a ring of 25%

Malacath doesn't affect the maximum dmg or the explosion dmg, so you are losing out on quite a bit for going non crit.
And yea, mala affects other burst skills for other classes, great balance I know..

YandereGirlfriend

Adding Major Breach would be great but even something like one of the Defiles would be a step up.

ealdwin wrote: »

techyeshic wrote: »

I would like it to just baseline provide major breach. Just to add some utility to it at least

For magplar then, it might compel you to use this and restoring aura rather than ele drain.

For stamplar; it would free you up from having to go 1h and shield when we already are stuck with 2her for brutality and a burst heal.

...but Ele Drain was giving me some issues last week so I swapped it out for Radiant Aura. It's not a half bad skill in terms of look and feel casting it, it's just near useless in what it actually does compared to Ele Drain. So, a solution that might make it worthwhile via change to another skill would be welcome.

I would love for Radiant Aura to give the Minor sustain bonuses on-cast in addition to the Magickasteal. If it did that and you could single-bar it, it would instantly become a signature skill of the class.

techyeshic

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Adding Major Breach would be great but even something like one of the Defiles would be a step up.

ealdwin wrote: »

techyeshic wrote: »

I would like it to just baseline provide major breach. Just to add some utility to it at least

For magplar then, it might compel you to use this and restoring aura rather than ele drain.

For stamplar; it would free you up from having to go 1h and shield when we already are stuck with 2her for brutality and a burst heal.

...but Ele Drain was giving me some issues last week so I swapped it out for Radiant Aura. It's not a half bad skill in terms of look and feel casting it, it's just near useless in what it actually does compared to Ele Drain. So, a solution that might make it worthwhile via change to another skill would be welcome.

I would love for Radiant Aura to give the Minor sustain bonuses on-cast in addition to the Magickasteal. If it did that and you could single-bar it, it would instantly become a signature skill of the class.

We have defile on dark flare, as lackluster as that is. They took major protection away from empowering sweeps because it was on remembrance.

Also; defukes been nerfed. I'd rather be freed from destro for ele, or 1h shield for ransack