Templar Beam

KhajiitLivesMatter

Hey, was discussing with a friend if a templar beam should be dodgeable , because its an non aoe instant dmg execute there is no reason why it shouldnt be dodgeable - or if u like it than all executes should have it what would u think if a killers blade could hit u in a dodge role?

edit: was going to write "explain why" to "let it as it is to" but cant...

Joy_Division

let it as it is

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Hey, was discussing with a friend if a templar beam should be dodgeable , because its an non aoe instant dmg execute there is no reason why it shouldnt be dodgeable - or if u like it than all executes should have it what would u think if a killers blade could hit u in a dodge role?

edit: was going to write "explain why" to "let it as it is to" but cant...

It used to be dodgeable and the skill sucked because it already has the disadvantage of being interruptible and a channel which delays it's damage.

It has different mechanics than all the other executes so comparing them is apples to oranges.,

KhajiitLivesMatter

make it dodgeable (explain why pls)

Joy_Division wrote: »

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Hey, was discussing with a friend if a templar beam should be dodgeable , because its an non aoe instant dmg execute there is no reason why it shouldnt be dodgeable - or if u like it than all executes should have it what would u think if a killers blade could hit u in a dodge role?

edit: was going to write "explain why" to "let it as it is to" but cant...

It used to be dodgeable and the skill sucked because it already has the disadvantage of being interruptible and a channel which delays it's damage.

It has different mechanics than all the other executes so comparing them is apples to oranges.,

sure but i think its completly unfair to be EXECUTET while doging - doging should be to avoid dmg not 2 sec where u get hit by everything and cant defend

even blocking would be 5x more effectiv which shouldnt be that way

Firstmep

let it as it is

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Hey, was discussing with a friend if a templar beam should be dodgeable , because its an non aoe instant dmg execute there is no reason why it shouldnt be dodgeable - or if u like it than all executes should have it what would u think if a killers blade could hit u in a dodge role?

edit: was going to write "explain why" to "let it as it is to" but cant...

It used to be dodgeable and the skill sucked because it already has the disadvantage of being interruptible and a channel which delays it's damage.

It has different mechanics than all the other executes so comparing them is apples to oranges.,

sure but i think its completly unfair to be EXECUTET while doging - doging should be to avoid dmg not 2 sec where u get hit by everything and cant defend

even blocking would be 5x more effectiv which shouldnt be that way

Can I assume nb player there?
Not everything has to be dodge able, since the well fitted buff even light/heavy armor ppl are rolling like its 2016.
Beam effects like zaan and the new destro, soul strike are all undodgeable, so jbeam is in line with them.
In fact my current magplar build uses 3 out of 4 of those.
Now thats a real "Beamplar" @Decimus xD

Joy_Division

let it as it is

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Hey, was discussing with a friend if a templar beam should be dodgeable , because its an non aoe instant dmg execute there is no reason why it shouldnt be dodgeable - or if u like it than all executes should have it what would u think if a killers blade could hit u in a dodge role?

edit: was going to write "explain why" to "let it as it is to" but cant...

It used to be dodgeable and the skill sucked because it already has the disadvantage of being interruptible and a channel which delays it's damage.

It has different mechanics than all the other executes so comparing them is apples to oranges.,

sure but i think its completly unfair to be EXECUTET while doging - doging should be to avoid dmg not 2 sec where u get hit by everything and cant defend

even blocking would be 5x more effectiv which shouldnt be that way

Well I can see why you made this poll given that you think dodging should make you immune to damage. Somehow that strikes you as being "fair." Going to have to disagree with that.

You don;t have to dodge and quite frankly shouldn't because it's 100% intended that beam skills are meant to counter that form of defense. Yes, blocking is 5X more effective, a player getting beamed should most certainly block-cast vigor or a shield or a heal or an ulitmate or an interrupt or a stun or a teleport or a cloak or a bash. A player who tires to dodge a Templar Beam is a panicking and desperate player who wants a one button to always save them, not one who is able to think clearly and react correctly to the different combat conditions that ESO throws at them.

UppGRAYxDD

whats Beam?

https://imgflip.com/i/4lzmoa

Qbiken

let it as it is

People still complain about magplar now? yikes....

BaiterOfZergs

let it as it is

We been there before, it’s not a good idea. The skill in general has been mediocre for years now.

It’s no longer deserving of the name Jesus Beam, it’s more like noodle beam.

Sanguinor2

let it as it is

Free advice against beam for a nb: press cloak, beam gone.

WoppaBoem

let it as it is

Diversity is a strenght, outside game pretty xxx statement. In game make skills behave differently that what makes it fun and gives it flavor. So very strong No.

Kartalin

let it as it is

It’s already the worst execute in the game, why do we need to nerf it further?

EtTuBrutus

let it as it is

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Hey, was discussing with a friend if a templar beam should be dodgeable , because its an non aoe instant dmg execute there is no reason why it shouldnt be dodgeable - or if u like it than all executes should have it what would u think if a killers blade could hit u in a dodge role?

edit: was going to write "explain why" to "let it as it is to" but cant...

It used to be dodgeable and the skill sucked because it already has the disadvantage of being interruptible and a channel which delays it's damage.

It has different mechanics than all the other executes so comparing them is apples to oranges.,

sure but i think its completly unfair to be EXECUTET while doging - doging should be to avoid dmg not 2 sec where u get hit by everything and cant defend

even blocking would be 5x more effectiv which shouldnt be that way

Believe it or not, dodge needs a counter.

erio

I mean it is an easy mode ability that zerglings spam when youre at full health, but i've never had any issues with it. Just dont get low hp

Waffennacht

let it as it is

Templars need love, not hate right meow

idk

let it as it is

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Hey, was discussing with a friend if a templar beam should be dodgeable , because its an non aoe instant dmg execute there is no reason why it shouldnt be dodgeable - or if u like it than all executes should have it what would u think if a killers blade could hit u in a dodge role?

edit: was going to write "explain why" to "let it as it is to" but cant...

It used to be dodgeable and the skill sucked because it already has the disadvantage of being interruptible and a channel which delays it's damage.

It has different mechanics than all the other executes so comparing them is apples to oranges.,

sure but i think its completly unfair to be EXECUTET while doging - doging should be to avoid dmg not 2 sec where u get hit by everything and cant defend

even blocking would be 5x more effectiv which shouldnt be that way

I am pretty sure this is the only execute skill that can be interrupted as most execute skills are instant.

What Joy said is pretty much on the mark.

maxjapank

let it as it is

If anything, the first tick needs to deal damage instantly. Not delayed as it is now.

idk

let it as it is

maxjapank wrote: »

If anything, the first tick needs to deal damage instantly. Not delayed as it is now.

The delay would be important for an interrupt to be useful.

Drdeath20

let it as it is

Its the 3rd best execute in the game and 3rd by a long shot. Sure nerf it, why not. its kinda fun to see just how bad templars can get at this point.

Your options are flawed bcz you dont have a buff option. Id imagine you did it innocently but it could be considered dishonest. Hey everyone the overwhelming majority thinks jesus pew pew should be left as is and not buffed. Do you follow me here?

maxjapank

let it as it is

idk wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

If anything, the first tick needs to deal damage instantly. Not delayed as it is now.

The delay would be important for an interrupt to be useful.

To do any real damage, you need the full channel anyways. It can still be interrupted. But as it is now, you rarely see anyone use it outside of a group or used at long range. And it's honestly been a long time since I've seen a Templar using it. And being unable to light attack with Radiant, It's actually better to just Sweep/light attack for dmg.

DeHei

let it as it is

If you finally killed by a templar in these days, you shouldnt ask for another nerf of a templar class

universal_wrath

let it as it is

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

Hey, was discussing with a friend if a templar beam should be dodgeable , because its an non aoe instant dmg execute there is no reason why it shouldnt be dodgeable - or if u like it than all executes should have it what would u think if a killers blade could hit u in a dodge role?

edit: was going to write "explain why" to "let it as it is to" but cant...

It is called Jesus beam for a reason. You simply can't escape the light.

Fawn4287

let it as it is

The only annoying thing about beam is Xv players that simply do nothing other than spam it, hoping you will at some point drop low enough for it to do decent damage. if something like the molten whip mechanic was added to even buff the damage based on how many aedric spear abilities were used prior within a time period, nerfing it for beam spammers but buffing it for players that want to combo it.

West93

Interupt (bash).

Use line of sight.

If there is no line of sight and you have 20+ players on you with few templars beaming it's your problem that you showed up in wrong place at wrong time.

Another option is to outheal. Beam is so pretty weak that you can outheal it with just vigor ticks unless you are like at 5% health left.

KhajiitLivesMatter

make it dodgeable (explain why pls)

West93 wrote: »

Interupt (bash).

Use line of sight.

If there is no line of sight and you have 20+ players on you with few templars beaming it's your problem that you showed up in wrong place at wrong time.

Another option is to outheal. Beam is so pretty weak that you can outheal it with just vigor ticks unless you are like at 5% health left.

problem is beam starts when im dodging t oAVOID dmg but thanks to stupid mechanics i get MORE dmg from dodging than from blocking

Drdeath20

let it as it is

KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »

West93 wrote: »

Interupt (bash).

Use line of sight.

If there is no line of sight and you have 20+ players on you with few templars beaming it's your problem that you showed up in wrong place at wrong time.

Another option is to outheal. Beam is so pretty weak that you can outheal it with just vigor ticks unless you are like at 5% health left.

problem is beam starts when im dodging t oAVOID dmg but thanks to stupid mechanics i get MORE dmg from dodging than from blocking

If you 1vX the odds are against you. Pick your fights better. Just think about what your saying, i mean really think it through here. Templars are bad enough (at just about everything) and lo and behold here pops up a nerf thread bcz a player is upset that jesus beam hurts their 1vX chances.

Strider__Roshin

make it dodgeable (explain why pls)

Because counterplay should be a thing.

Sanguinor2

let it as it is

Strider__Roshin wrote: »

Because counterplay should be a thing.

Tfw block, LoS or purge isnt counterplay.