Setting RED CP for harder 4 man Dungeons

kenjiblaster25

Hi,

Anyone know of a guide to setting Red CP for the newer DLC dungeons/hard modes in them?

I know there’s trials guides for CP, but I’m wondering if there’s a place where someone discusses and approaches this? Most of us don’t kill bosses like PC groups on YouTube, so it would great if there a place that looks at the challenges and has advise on mitigation for these places.

Cheers

josiahva

I don't think there is the same level of dedication for DLC dungeons that trials have. Generally even HMs and Trifecta fights are more about practicing mechanics than anything else, unless you happen to be a very squishy class. Is there one in particular giving you trouble on survival?

Everest_Lionheart

Yeah that seems extreme to me. I’ve even gone into vet dungeons still set on trial red CP by mistake and have seen very little difference. I recently completed vMoS after a vSS run one night without resetting, which means 0 points in Hardy. I can’t recall dying to anything except missed adds on the indrick boss and miscommunication (mechs) on the final boss. With a competent group you will be fine with any reasonable CP allocation in most situations. If you are running solo however you may want to make sure your CP are balanced properly. Generally the CP calculator on eso skill book will get you where you need to be for anything outside of specific trials.

ElCapitanAmericano

kenjiblaster25 wrote: »

Hi,
Most of us don’t kill bosses like PC groups on YouTube, so it would great if there a place that looks at the challenges and has advise on mitigation for these places.

It's amazing how utterly useless so many of the dungeon guide videos are on Youtube. "So this boss is really hard, and you absolutely need to know the mechanics" then they proceed to DPS down the boss while ignoring the mechanics.

josiahva

ElCapitanAmericano wrote: »

kenjiblaster25 wrote: »

Hi,
Most of us don’t kill bosses like PC groups on YouTube, so it would great if there a place that looks at the challenges and has advise on mitigation for these places.

It's amazing how utterly useless so many of the dungeon guide videos are on Youtube. "So this boss is really hard, and you absolutely need to know the mechanics" then they proceed to DPS down the boss while ignoring the mechanics.

I have honestly NEVER watched a youtube video on mechanics for any dungeon or trial, I either learn them blind when new content just comes out or someone in the group gives a brief rundown...none of them are truly that hard...once you die to something a few times, its pretty easy to figure out why something is killing you if you bother to read your death recap and once you understand what is going on, its just a matter of practice to be able to stay alive and execute mechs.

What I have run into in particular is vCT...all these pug groups that think the correct way to kill the gargoyle boss is to fight outside of the pit. That entire dungeon is based off of movement and that fight is no different...go down to the middle, tank drags imps in, they all die to AOE, then the group runs out of the pit when boss flies up, DPS kill the 2 hander guy...then back in the pit...rinse and repeat, easy, group DPS does not really matter, even extremely low DPS groups can complete the fight just fine. When you fight outside the pit, that means either A. You have massive DPS and burn the boss before the imps can enrage him, B. One of the DPS has to run around the pit killing imps, leaving just one DPS to deal with the 2 hander guy, or C. Imps are ignored and enrage anything they channel at, and the tank dies because of impossible to block massive damage. I never watched a video on vCT, but I went in blind(to vet, didnt bother with normal, still havent played it on normal) with a group that also went in blind...we figured out the correct mechanics within about 30 mins....all these pug groups though just watched a video on youtube and want to make the fight 10 times more difficult because someone on youtube did it that way.

kenjiblaster25

I appreciate the comments - thank you.

I guess I agree and also I’m saying that I used to use a webpage where they talked about damage types and I swear it connected all the types of damage to whether they were physical or spell and I think there may be times when altering CP is beneficial (though not essential).