Magicka DragonKnight Heavy Attack Rotation (51k+ on 6mil) - Markarth

adilazimdegilx

AyaDark wrote: »

adilazimdegilx wrote: »

Magicka DK this patch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NqXmZAJAm4

Not even kidding in the slightest.

I do not understand the video - why do he look on stuff each time ?

It's classic PTS lag. Your character looks like that while you are weaving.

OlumoGarbag

Firstmep wrote: »

OlumoGarbag wrote: »

im Using this build for maelstrom/vateshran and i was able to get trifecta on my 2 run ever.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=218670

Its just so easy

I honestly dont see the allure of Torugs pact.

Using something like mothers sorrow will give you better aoe dmg overall, which is really where its at for a lot of the arena.

But if it works than great!

Then you did not see the build. Torugs + shield glyph is the biggest defensive carry in pve even bigger then pale order
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345944981812543500/773996140269010984/unknown.png

CleymenZero

Why run it on 6M when 21M is a standard for benchmarking?

In raid, you'll hopefully have all these buffs and more so why mess around? I can hit 56k on the 6M and 60+ on some classes but no guild will ever ask for a 6M parse unless they want to hipsterify the process....

You're gonna say because it's a cheese dummy? Well I was hitting 90k on the 21m last patch and 90k on single target boss and 100+ multitarget. Where is the cheese?

If anything, the 21M standardized dps, levels the playing field to cancel class and set specific buffs you would/should get in raid anyways.

AyaDark

Mother sorrow is a set that gives % to rotation. It is good for Night blades but in meta builds look like just copy paste to other classes, because it was lazy to do something for classes based on its passives.

Heavy attack builds use another idea, so it is like wear pants on the head.

Each build can be based on some idea, than it will work.

If all idea is "mother sorrow" than you only get meta LA NB

Each build can use some idea - it can use ultimate spam, empower some thing one, or get some cary or only do dps by rotation and etc.

Heavy attack builds use sets to empower something one - it is heavy attacks.
Its idea is not in rotation. It just add some extra damage to main source that HA are.

If it has not enough damage than it do not work.

Then it is more proffit use it only for resources regen, but you need ofbalance effect window than.

As example lets take ultimate:
If dk can make ultimate by uptime he can get resources and good damage from it.

If he put mother sorrow he lose sustain, because he can not spam ultimate as often, so all build stop working.

The same for LA builds. You can not put or use heavy attacks in it, with out changes. You need source of all balance as example, to not lose that much damage and do not put in sustain.

If class do not have passives for crit, mother sorrow is not as good.

You always use that you have.

As example nord: Can it by DD? No ?
It can, but he can not get good numbers on Atro. But in raid you will not go with 10 k hp, so you use food, and by using different food you get better sustain - so you already are fat and you balance it with another stats, than ordinary DD.

You can not be as good dps as meta race on atro, but in raid you must be fat, just not to die

So difference is not as big

The same for HA users - no need in sustain, but need in ultimate. If raid puts sets for HA users, they do more dps than LA users, because they will not get enough sustain.

Now it is LA meta, so people just even do not think about it. For all last years

zvavi

CleymenZero wrote: »

Why run it on 6M when 21M is a standard for benchmarking?

In raid, you'll hopefully have all these buffs and more so why mess around? I can hit 56k on the 6M and 60+ on some classes but no guild will ever ask for a 6M parse unless they want to hipsterify the process....

You're gonna say because it's a cheese dummy? Well I was hitting 90k on the 21m last patch and 90k on single target boss and 100+ multitarget. Where is the cheese?

If anything, the 21M standardized dps, levels the playing field to cancel class and set specific buffs you would/should get in raid anyways.

Because heavy attack builds are for dungeons, not trials.

PaddyVu

AyaDark wrote: »

Mother sorrow is a set that gives % to rotation. It is good for Night blades but in meta builds look like just copy paste to other classes, because it was lazy to do something for classes based on its passives.

Heavy attack builds use another idea, so it is like wear pants on the head.

Each build can be based on some idea, than it will work.

If all idea is "mother sorrow" than you only get meta LA NB

Each build can use some idea - it can use ultimate spam, empower some thing one, or get some cary or only do dps by rotation and etc.

Heavy attack builds use sets to empower something one - it is heavy attacks.
Its idea is not in rotation. It just add some extra damage to main source that HA are.

If it has not enough damage than it do not work.

Then it is more proffit use it only for resources regen, but you need ofbalance effect window than.

As example lets take ultimate:
If dk can make ultimate by uptime he can get resources and good damage from it.

If he put mother sorrow he lose sustain, because he can not spam ultimate as often, so all build stop working.

The same for LA builds. You can not put or use heavy attacks in it, with out changes. You need source of all balance as example, to not lose that much damage and do not put in sustain.

If class do not have passives for crit, mother sorrow is not as good.

You always use that you have.

As example nord: Can it by DD? No ?
It can, but he can not get good numbers on Atro. But in raid you will not go with 10 k hp, so you use food, and by using different food you get better sustain - so you already are fat and you balance it with another stats, than ordinary DD.

You can not have good as good dps as meta race on atro, but in raid you must by fat, just not to die

I solo trial and dungeon, if i play with group, i will play as tank, is that clear?

J2JMC

CleymenZero wrote: »

Why run it on 6M when 21M is a standard for benchmarking?

In raid, you'll hopefully have all these buffs and more so why mess around? I can hit 56k on the 6M and 60+ on some classes but no guild will ever ask for a 6M parse unless they want to hipsterify the process....

You're gonna say because it's a cheese dummy? Well I was hitting 90k on the 21m last patch and 90k on single target boss and 100+ multitarget. Where is the cheese?

If anything, the 21M standardized dps, levels the playing field to cancel class and set specific buffs you would/should get in raid anyways.

The type of people looking for builds, let alone heavy attack builds, are most likely not running in optimized trial groups. If you're hitting 90k on the trial dummy you clearly are not the target audience.

AyaDark

J2JMC wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

Why run it on 6M when 21M is a standard for benchmarking?

In raid, you'll hopefully have all these buffs and more so why mess around? I can hit 56k on the 6M and 60+ on some classes but no guild will ever ask for a 6M parse unless they want to hipsterify the process....

You're gonna say because it's a cheese dummy? Well I was hitting 90k on the 21m last patch and 90k on single target boss and 100+ multitarget. Where is the cheese?

If anything, the 21M standardized dps, levels the playing field to cancel class and set specific buffs you would/should get in raid anyways.

The type of people looking for builds, let alone heavy attack builds, are most likely not running in optimized trial groups. If you're hitting 90k on the trial dummy you clearly are not the target audience.

Trial dummy was made for 2017 year meta, with sets and skills for that meta.

Now it is 2020, a lot if thingth changed.

On dummy for 2017 year meta it is not strange to do more damage in 2017 years build.

But with so much changes - DD with even 100 k dps is some loser against DD with Support sets. You only get better numbers, because other roles and some DD gives you this support, and DD like this do not give nothing.

If even he has 100 k dps so what ? 5% buff for raid and dd with 60 k dps gives the same for raid.

But you see this numbers, others do not.

Who always say that tanks are selfish ? Selfish DDs?

PaddyVu

AyaDark wrote: »

J2JMC wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

Why run it on 6M when 21M is a standard for benchmarking?

In raid, you'll hopefully have all these buffs and more so why mess around? I can hit 56k on the 6M and 60+ on some classes but no guild will ever ask for a 6M parse unless they want to hipsterify the process....

You're gonna say because it's a cheese dummy? Well I was hitting 90k on the 21m last patch and 90k on single target boss and 100+ multitarget. Where is the cheese?

If anything, the 21M standardized dps, levels the playing field to cancel class and set specific buffs you would/should get in raid anyways.

The type of people looking for builds, let alone heavy attack builds, are most likely not running in optimized trial groups. If you're hitting 90k on the trial dummy you clearly are not the target audience.

Trial dummy was made for 2017 year meta, with sets and skills for that meta.

Now it is 2020, a lot if thingth changed.

On dummy for 2017 year meta it is not strange to do more damage in 2017 years build.

But with so much changes - DD with even 100 k dps is some loser against DD with Support sets. You only get better numbers, because other roles and some DD gives you this support, and DD like this do not give nothing.

If even he has 100 k dps so what ? 5% buff for raid and dd with 60 k dps gives the same for raid.

But you see this numbers, others do not.

Who always say that tanks are selfish ? Selfish DDs?

With empower change heavy attack are good from now on