Drop Chance for Ancestral Reach Motif

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Okay, so first of all - I really love the new DLC! The Reach is my favorite part of TES lore so I'm so excited to explore it.

That said - I just wanted to ask here... has anyone had ANY luck getting ancestral reach pieces to drop while digging for antiquities in the Reach?

I've done 22 antiquities tonight (12 green, 9 blue, 2 purple) and I haven't had a single style page drop. Is the drop chance like, ridiculously low? Is it going to take hundreds of artifacts to get the entire style?

Just wondering to see if this is something I should just wait to buy from the guild traders or if I should keep trying. I don't want to keep wasting my time if it is a ridiculously low drop chance. I really want the style but I don't want to grind this hard for it. It's supposed to drop in antiquities, right...?

It's only been 1 night of trying, but after doing over 20 antiquities I figured I would have at least gotten gloves or belts or something by now... Anyone else trying for this style?
  • Glenmorils
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    Bumping to say that I’m now up to 36 antiquities in the Reach, and still not a single drop... does the rarity of the antiquity affect drop chance?

    Has anyone had any luck with this motif?
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    Is it possible it's not in the game yet? I did a quick TTC search and couldn't find any, but I may not have the spelling correct. If anyone has received one, it would be good to confirm if it drops.
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    I've done a bunch of digs in the Reach and haven't found a single page either.
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  • tomofhyrule
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    Haven't seen it either.

    I know there were some people talking on PTS about it not dropping or a possible bug with it, but I don't know if it ever got resolved. I didn't hear anyone on PTS say they started to collect it.
  • Glenmorils
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    Okay, thanks guys. Maybe it’s a bug.
    Is it possible it's not in the game yet? I did a quick TTC search and couldn't find any, but I may not have the spelling correct. If anyone has received one, it would be good to confirm if it drops.

    I think that it should be in the game - it’s available to view on the collections tab. It was supposed to be added by Markarth. I think the TTC hasn’t been updated with any of the new items yet.
  • AeridanGL
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    Glenmorils wrote: »
    Okay, so first of all - I really love the new DLC! The Reach is my favorite part of TES lore so I'm so excited to explore it.

    That said - I just wanted to ask here... has anyone had ANY luck getting ancestral reach pieces to drop while digging for antiquities in the Reach?

    I've done 22 antiquities tonight (12 green, 9 blue, 2 purple) and I haven't had a single style page drop. Is the drop chance like, ridiculously low? Is it going to take hundreds of artifacts to get the entire style?

    Just wondering to see if this is something I should just wait to buy from the guild traders or if I should keep trying. I don't want to keep wasting my time if it is a ridiculously low drop chance. I really want the style but I don't want to grind this hard for it. It's supposed to drop in antiquities, right...?

    It's only been 1 night of trying, but after doing over 20 antiquities I figured I would have at least gotten gloves or belts or something by now... Anyone else trying for this style?

    While not a direct and official source, Display Leads addon (which gets its data from multiple sources like what users can upload based on their data) says that they seem to be bugged at the moment.
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    I got two in western skyrim
  • Glenmorils
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    AeridanGL wrote: »

    While not a direct and official source, Display Leads addon (which gets its data from multiple sources like what users can upload based on their data) says that they seem to be bugged at the moment.

    That’s good to know. Hopefully they fix it soon.
    Czekoludek wrote: »
    I got two in western skyrim

    Really? Which pieces? I thought they were supposed to drop in the Reach.
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    I got two green leads, dont remember the pieces as i still didn't go for them. I was also surprised but looks like leads can drop in skyrim too, just motif pieces needs to be dig out in reach
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    Czekoludek wrote: »
    I got two green leads, dont remember the pieces as i still didn't go for them. I was also surprised but looks like leads can drop in skyrim too, just motif pieces needs to be dig out in reach

    I’ll try to dig in Western Skyrim and see if I have any luck! Maybe just the Reach is bugged.
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno is there a bug currently for The Reach zone specifically and the drop rate?
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    I tried to look for antiquities in Western Skyrim, but no luck with drops. Did 10 and gave up.

    I did a few more in the Reach tonight including two gold-level antiquities. Here's what I'm up to:

    https://ibb.co/Cby33fn

    I feel like I should have gotten SOMETHING by now. Maybe I'm just unlucky. I want to stop wasting my time at this point and just buy the pieces I want from the guild traders, but TTC says NO ONE has posted any of these pages. Seems unlikely.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno - can you please confirm if this is bugged?
    Edited by Glenmorils on November 5, 2020 2:27AM
  • Scallan
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    A very friendly individual messaged me in-game regarding the motifs - they were able to get them from doing Greymoor Caverns (Blackreach) treasure maps!

    Hopefully this helps other people who come across this topic!
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    i dug up a treasure map for skyrim today and got one of the leads for markarth. i think it was maces?
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    Scallan wrote: »
    A very friendly individual messaged me in-game regarding the motifs - they were able to get them from doing Greymoor Caverns (Blackreach) treasure maps!

    Hopefully this helps other people who come across this topic!

    So it's not from doing the dig, it's from the treasure map then you go dig it up. Like the motif from the original base zone maps.
  • tomofhyrule
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    Can confirm: Motif lead found in a Blackreach: Greymoor Caverns treasure map.
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  • vailjohn_ESO
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    Can confirm: Motif lead found in a Blackreach: Greymoor Caverns treasure map.

    Yeah same here, I've gotten leads for Ancestral Reach Boots, Helmets, Maces and Shields so far from doing "Blackreach: Greymoor Caverns" treasure maps.



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  • wnights
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    Got the belt page from a Western Skyrim treasure map

    Seems like there is a higher chance to find these pages in WS
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  • Glenmorils
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    Thanks for the answers everyone. The original description of how to find them feels a little misleading now. Good to know that it’s possible to get them!
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    Oof, low drop rate though. I ran through all of the maps I had (6 WSkyrim and 3 Blackreach) and I got a total of one lead.

    At least the other Ancestral motifs dropped from zones with 6 maps each x 6 zones. Yeah, there was only 2 leads per zone, but at least maps were easy enough to come by. Now we're trying to get 14 leads from 6 overall map locations, and they're very bad at dropping in the first place, not to mention that the leads are bad at dropping once you finally get a map.

    I can see the prices for these maps going up if this is gonna be the case...

    Out of curiosity, has anyone gotten a lead (or page) for Ancestral Reach in any way besides a WSkyrim/Greymoor treasure map?
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    Oof, low drop rate though. I ran through all of the maps I had (6 WSkyrim and 3 Blackreach) and I got a total of one lead.

    At least the other Ancestral motifs dropped from zones with 6 maps each x 6 zones. Yeah, there was only 2 leads per zone, but at least maps were easy enough to come by. Now we're trying to get 14 leads from 6 overall map locations, and they're very bad at dropping in the first place, not to mention that the leads are bad at dropping once you finally get a map.

    I can see the prices for these maps going up if this is gonna be the case...

    Out of curiosity, has anyone gotten a lead (or page) for Ancestral Reach in any way besides a WSkyrim/Greymoor treasure map?

    Yep, this has been extremely difficult.

    And the prices on the TTC reflect it. I saw Ancestral Reach Chests going for 4,000,000 & 5,000,000. The rest of the pieces aren't much better.

    I'm sure this is currently up there with one of the most difficult to obtain motifs in the game. The devs really got this one wrong... hunting for this should be fun, or at least rewarding. The maps are scarce and the drop rate is ridiculously low.

    Kind of ridiculous for a retexture of one of the base-game styles... I was super excited for this style and this DLC in general. Trying to obtain it has disappointed and frustrated me.
    Edited by Glenmorils on November 7, 2020 1:27AM
  • tomofhyrule
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    Do we have confirmation on whether this is intended, or whether it's a bug?

    All of the natch potes both here and on PTS kept saying it was supposed to be a bonus reward for digging, but I've yet to hear someone find it that way. It seems these are only dropping from Skyrim maps so far.

    This reminds me of the Greymoor motif - it was intended to drop from Harrowstorms and the quests, but it started dropping early from Psijic portals and the prices were astronomical... at least until the official release and then it wasn't bad to get ahold of them. Is this the same, where it's not dropping from its intended source, so the only place it's currently available is a secondary source? It'd be nice if the upcoming patch also fixed these to drop properly so we could get them.

    Would be interested to know if this is a bug or if this motif is just not going to drop for anyone ever.
  • Glenmorils
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    Do we have confirmation on whether this is intended, or whether it's a bug?

    All of the natch potes both here and on PTS kept saying it was supposed to be a bonus reward for digging, but I've yet to hear someone find it that way. It seems these are only dropping from Skyrim maps so far.

    This reminds me of the Greymoor motif - it was intended to drop from Harrowstorms and the quests, but it started dropping early from Psijic portals and the prices were astronomical... at least until the official release and then it wasn't bad to get ahold of them. Is this the same, where it's not dropping from its intended source, so the only place it's currently available is a secondary source? It'd be nice if the upcoming patch also fixed these to drop properly so we could get them.

    Would be interested to know if this is a bug or if this motif is just not going to drop for anyone ever.

    It would be really nice to know. I found a couple of pieces (helmets & daggers) in Western Skyrim and Greymoor caverns. Ran out of treasure maps and they’re elusive on the traders now... so it looks like I’m out of luck.

    I hope it’s a bug, because if not, it’s beyond ridiculous. @ZOS_GinaBruno can anyone look into this?
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