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Last lead for Ring of the Pale Order?

  • Jaimeh
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    BTW, the lead from Wrothgar can drop from any of the WBs there, I got it from another boss to the one listed.
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    It is on a table in Nighthollow Keep in Blackreach. It looks like a letter or a note. There is a cooldown so if one person reads it and grabs the lead, the next person will need to wait until it respawns.

    Isn't the keep locked once you complete the main quest there? If so, how do they expect us to get the lead?

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  • Umbro100
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    It is on a table in Nighthollow Keep in Blackreach. It looks like a letter or a note. There is a cooldown so if one person reads it and grabs the lead, the next person will need to wait until it respawns.

    Isn't the keep locked once you complete the main quest there? If so, how do they expect us to get the lead?

    no, it is not but / there are a lot of people here, only one can take it and then it disappears for 5 min or more. if you have a lag, you will never get it.how stupid is that for a legendary item, standing around a table and clicking a button ??! feel like an idiot.who came up with this , a 5 year old with no imagination ?
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Umbro100 wrote: »
    LonePirate wrote: »
    It is on a table in Nighthollow Keep in Blackreach. It looks like a letter or a note. There is a cooldown so if one person reads it and grabs the lead, the next person will need to wait until it respawns.

    Isn't the keep locked once you complete the main quest there? If so, how do they expect us to get the lead?

    no, it is not but / there are a lot of people here, only one can take it and then it disappears for 5 min or more. if you have a lag, you will never get it.how stupid is that for a legendary item, standing around a table and clicking a button ??! feel like an idiot.who came up with this , a 5 year old with no imagination ?

    Gina just said the reset timer was bugged, @Umbro100 ... did you read all of the thread first before posting??
  • Varana
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    Why is this even on a reset timer, and not instanced? Umbro's point still stands.
  • Spearpoint
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    Varana wrote: »
    Why is this even on a reset timer, and not instanced? Umbro's point still stands.

    Well, actually, it's both.

    Source: the second time I went there to pick it up, it didn't show up for me during the first 20 minutes. Then, another player came along and picked up right away, even if I couldn't see it. So, it is kind of instanced.

    Yeah, yeah, I can just create one now, but I wanted 3 legit Pale Order's along with my 3x Wild Hunt's, Band's etc >:)
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  • Sephyr
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    Varana wrote: »
    Why is this even on a reset timer, and not instanced? Umbro's point still stands.

    Agreed. But why am I not surprised given what they did with Artaeum. A ton of people at one fishing hole and you're lucky to get a basic fish, let alone the lead. :# I think whoever created these leads don't actually know the population of the game, let alone actually plays it.
  • katorga
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    Varana wrote: »
    Why is this even on a reset timer, and not instanced? Umbro's point still stands.

    Dunno. I went there and it was empty. Just picked it up. The entire mythic took about an hour, maybe hour and a half.
  • Umbro100
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    missclick
    Edited by Umbro100 on November 3, 2020 6:30AM
  • Umbro100
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    Umbro100 wrote: »
    Umbro100 wrote: »
    LonePirate wrote: »
    It is on a table in Nighthollow Keep in Blackreach. It looks like a letter or a note. There is a cooldown so if one person reads it and grabs the lead, the next person will need to wait until it respawns.

    Isn't the keep locked once you complete the main quest there? If so, how do they expect us to get the lead?

    no, it is not but / there are a lot of people here, only one can take it and then it disappears for 5 min or more. if you have a lag, you will never get it.how stupid is that for a legendary item, standing around a table and clicking a button ??! feel like an idiot.who came up with this , a 5 year old with no imagination ?

    Gina just said the reset timer was bugged, @Umbro100 ... did you read all of the thread first before posting??

    Yes, I did. It is a Mythic item. How about I do the zone quest, meet different characters, visit new places, overcome some difficulties, solve a puzzle, kill a villain , save someone and at the end I find the last missing part in some hidden box ? How rewarding would that be, instead of standing around a table with 20 people clicking like a fool .... So yes I read it.
    It is still lame.

  • Sephyr
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    It also seems to be on a cooldown. Was about to get a second and the lead didn't show up for me, but it showed up for others. @ZOS_GinaBruno more clarity on things like this would be optimal for that transparency bit. Else this is also a bug and should be forwarded as well. I was down there almost 30 minutes before someone snatched the invisible lead that I couldn't see after completing the entire ring once already.
    Edited by Sephyr on November 3, 2020 11:48AM
  • West93
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    Did anyone got lead from a bangkorai dolmen chest?
  • Sephyr
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    I never got one from a dolmen chest, just the others on my first time around. Try surfing for Master chests since that's probably why I got mine so fast.
  • ErMurazor
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    Does bosses and/or monsters drop the lead in bad mans hallow? i been there for ages farming and zip, nada, nothing
  • Sephyr
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    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Does bosses and/or monsters drop the lead in bad mans hallow? i been there for ages farming and zip, nada, nothing

    Monsters for sure, as that's where I got mine. The problem with this though is that the specific public dungeon it's from has probably the lowest amount of mobs in there and when I did it even on off-peak hours I was farming against about 15 other people. Which, again, it feels like whoever is making these leads don't understand the layout of where they're placing these things, nor do they seem to have learned from the Artaeum fishing mistake and are again doubling down on the issues of things being limited. For instance, I'm about to check one final time before I just give up to see if the lead is appearing in Nighthollow Keep again, for some reason when I should probably know better. :#

    Edit: Still cannot see the lead, someone else even said they could see it and went ahead and grabbed it. @ZOS_GinaBruno that's a devastating bug as I can't finish the codex entries and will perpetually be stuck trying to complete the lore on it.
    Edited by Sephyr on November 3, 2020 3:06PM
  • West93
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    Update: found lead from bangkorai intermediate chest. Did not count how many but somewhere between 15-25 chests took me to get it.

    Chest from dolmen did not dropped lead (spent 1 hour rotating through dolmens).
  • ErMurazor
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    Sephyr wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Does bosses and/or monsters drop the lead in bad mans hallow? i been there for ages farming and zip, nada, nothing

    Monsters for sure, as that's where I got mine. The problem with this though is that the specific public dungeon it's from has probably the lowest amount of mobs in there and when I did it even on off-peak hours I was farming against about 15 other people. Which, again, it feels like whoever is making these leads don't understand the layout of where they're placing these things, nor do they seem to have learned from the Artaeum fishing mistake and are again doubling down on the issues of things being limited. For instance, I'm about to check one final time before I just give up to see if the lead is appearing in Nighthollow Keep again, for some reason when I should probably know better. :#

    Edit: Still cannot see the lead, someone else even said they could see it and went ahead and grabbed it. @ZOS_GinaBruno that's a devastating bug as I can't finish the codex entries and will perpetually be stuck trying to complete the lore on it.

    i went there earlier today and it appeared after 1 min. heard its bugged though and have longer spawntime than intended
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    I waited about three or so minutes and it spawned in.
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  • Tenthirty2
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    Env_t wrote: »
    hey guys/gals
    where to find it?
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    Won't be able to confirm this until tonight but found this whilst surfing and trying to take my mind of my mounting US pres election anxiety:

    http://lovelynorth.com/antiquity-leads/

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  • Sephyr
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    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Sephyr wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Does bosses and/or monsters drop the lead in bad mans hallow? i been there for ages farming and zip, nada, nothing

    Monsters for sure, as that's where I got mine. The problem with this though is that the specific public dungeon it's from has probably the lowest amount of mobs in there and when I did it even on off-peak hours I was farming against about 15 other people. Which, again, it feels like whoever is making these leads don't understand the layout of where they're placing these things, nor do they seem to have learned from the Artaeum fishing mistake and are again doubling down on the issues of things being limited. For instance, I'm about to check one final time before I just give up to see if the lead is appearing in Nighthollow Keep again, for some reason when I should probably know better. :#

    Edit: Still cannot see the lead, someone else even said they could see it and went ahead and grabbed it. @ZOS_GinaBruno that's a devastating bug as I can't finish the codex entries and will perpetually be stuck trying to complete the lore on it.

    i went there earlier today and it appeared after 1 min. heard its bugged though and have longer spawntime than intended

    What I'm saying is that I get there, I cannot see the mesh that others clearly can interact with. I stood there for an hour and watched four people grab it while I seen a clear table (IE, they seen the scroll, I did not). And again, I mentioned earlier that I cleared the ring once. I just found a lead in Bangkorai to see if I can force it to spawn that way, but from my 'testing', immediately finding the ring and going after that first lead so far is in vain. You literally will see nothing but an empty table while others will see the lead. So either there's a cooldown, or there's a bug. I'm not sure which yet.
    Edited by Sephyr on November 3, 2020 4:23PM
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  • Sephyr
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    Don't mind the terrible framerate. It's indeed bugged. Guy sees the lead. I don't. Guy picks up the lead because I can't.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno this is a bug. More info;
    • This was with all addons off.
    • This happened after I had the game turned off for over two hours.
    • Since it didn't appear after those two hours, I found a lead in Bangkorai.
    • Came back, recorded this.

    While I could just reconstruct the ring, this blocks progress of the codexes. You will forever be stuck at 9/15 unless this is fixed.

    Edit: I've also made a thread here so as to not further derail this thread. That being said, if it's your first time getting the ring - good luck getting it if it's busy down there! I'll just have to wait until it's fixed until the lead/codexes are fixed for the second time around.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qloddr2H3To
    Edited by Sephyr on November 3, 2020 4:51PM
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