Wondering about magicka dps.....

phil.maricel08ub17_ESO

Evening all. Hoping to get some input from end game PvE players. I'm just getting my feet wet trying to find a solid class to focus on for end game content, so I am always watching the guys on YouTube put out parses and builds. I wanted to take a serious swing at magsorcs, but I swear I read(or heard) somewhere that magicka dps maybe taking a back seat to stamina dps for this upcoming patch. Is there any truth to that, or is it that 1% group at the very top saying this due to their constant score pushing? Any input would be appreciated.

witchdoctor

It is true that as of right now (latest PTS iteration; anything can change before live) that ranged light attacks are nerfed 10%.

It appears true that stamina is pulling higher overall numbers.

HOWEVER

Your personal ability to perform a rotation will be the #1 factor to your DPS. If you try to chase the flavour of the month, you will always be chasing.

Pick a class. Get good at that class. Then work on your rotation to be great at that class.

If you can bring the pain, regardless of class/spec, you will find a place in trial guilds.*

*If you want to be in the best, then obviously you have to be able to bring what they need.

Sergykid

any class on any race is viable for any content. It only matters if you aim for endgame leaderboard score runs. So just play what you enjoy, not what you see as necessary. Either if you do 31k dps or 34k, it's the same thing.

AcadianPaladin

I like mages and I like archers. So, I have several of each in a variety of classes. This is for two reasons. First, it takes playing several classes to determine which works better for you. Secondly, the classes that don't work out so well are not wasted - when my currently preferred class gets nerfed, bringing out a different class that fared better in the silly nerf/patch/'balance' cycle beats the heck out of rage quitting because you have only focused on one class and that class gets badly hit by the rotating nerf hammer.

My point is, classes come and go in terms of how they play so, if you plan to play for a long time, it makes good sense to develop alternatives.

Drdeath20

Magblade dps is BiS for range, single target, sustain, offhealing, burst and can be buffed by the group the best.

Dps parses are often just for show. In alot of tough situations most of that parse damage doesnt register but with a magblade your bow proc, impale, and swallow soul will always land.

IneedaDollar

Stamina and Magicka will be a lot closer next patch.
Most people think that Magicka might stay meta but time will tell.
Having both a Stamina and a Magicka DD increases your chances to find a group significantly and is a good idea in general.
Nightblade and Necro are the DD classes that performed the best in the overall history of Eso but the meta changes so feel free to pick any class you want.

LashanW

phil.maricel08ub17_ESO wrote: »

I wanted to take a serious swing at magsorcs, but I swear I read(or heard) somewhere that magicka dps maybe taking a back seat to stamina dps for this upcoming patch. Is there any truth to that, or is it that 1% group at the very top saying this due to their constant score pushing? Any input would be appreciated.

You hear correctly. Still I don't think mag dps will be far behind, and it still doesn't change the fact that certain trials / dungeons are a lot easier to complete with mag (ranged) dps thanks to their design.

If you have enough character slots, just try out different mag dd classes and see what you like the most (this might be a lot easier if you try this out in PTS). It's easier to be a better dd with the class you like the most.

MagSorc is a pretty solid choice for mag dps as it has a lot of utility, has a desirable group buff and is one of the better performers in terms of dps. They are also fairly balanced for group PvE and has one of the best single target ultimates in the game (storm atro). Only drawbacks are that sustain might be a bit tougher and you'll need to use combat pets to reach max dps (I say it as a drawback as some people hate sorc combat pets). Solo play is also super easy on mag sorc.

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Magblade dps is BiS for range, single target, sustain, offhealing, burst

This is true for the moment. Magblades have very high single target dps, AoE dps, execute and burst dps, sustain (which is good enough to allow running bi-stat buff food in basically ANY content) and survivability (self heals built into a fair amount of dps skills). And you can basically have all of this at the same time. Only drawback is that their rotation is slightly harder to master. They also don't have a strong burst heal available at all times and honestly vCR+ portals is the only place where this can be an issue.

So if you want to go for magblade, go for it. But keep in mind that it is quite overperforming atm and therefore is a juicy target for the nerf hammer that is always lurking about.

Drdeath20 wrote: »

In alot of tough situations most of that parse damage doesnt register but with a magblade your bow proc, impale, and swallow soul will always land.

What do you mean "doesn't register"? If you are talking about dps coming from ground placed AoE vs single target skills, well then, magSorc has even more direct single target dps sources (or dps sources that track/follow target) than magblades. That's the thing I love the most about magSorc storm atro ultimate, doesn't matter if the target is moving around. Storm atro will still zap the hell out of their target as long as they stay within his 28m range.

CrashTest

Mag Sorcs are a lot of fun to play. Solid damage output, survivability, and group utility.

The downside for me is the pet matriarch is annoyingly large which obstructs view. And now that Maw is the best mag monster set, the view obstruction is even worse.

Kurat

Stam will be able to parse higher but in content mag is still superior. All content, not just vet trials, are easier and heavily favored and build around mag ranged dps.

colossalvoids

I'd say take a class and spec you personally enjoy and have better gripe of.
Meta changes but it's not meaning much for average player really, said endgame players anyway just clears dust from one of their alts which not the case for majority of players caring about things like earning achievements on main for example. Your ability to perform is what actually matters.

Mag comps existed simultaneously with stam compositions for years no matter current meta at a time, it solely depends on a group you running with (want to run with). Even mixed groups are okay but depending on a trial you will be progging. If you want hm clears take whatever you want, want trial trifectas same logic applies but some groups might demand flavour of the month anyway, if you wanna scorepush with best players in a perspective just prepare to have no mains.

Firstmep

Sergykid wrote: »

any class on any race is viable for any content. It only matters if you aim for endgame leaderboard score runs. So just play what you enjoy, not what you see as necessary. Either if you do 31k dps or 34k, it's the same thing.

This so much.
Most of my stamina toons are nord for pvp reasons, yet I have 0 issues getting top tier scores for vma weekly for example.