This newest aoe test (test 8) is the laggiest test so far..

olsborg · October 2020

Ive played pvp since test 1 pretty much everyday, today is the laggiest ive experienced cyro since these tests began. Ping is higher and skill-delays are making it unplayable.

nukk3r · October 2020

Those damned ballgroups! OH WAIT...

Incursion · October 2020

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

Banana · October 2020

November is nearly here

zaria · October 2020

Incursion wrote: »

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

Or ZoS can not tell 80% of their customer base to get good or min speck is an i7 and 32 gig ram or an PS5 pro

https://i.imgur.com/0hvDFtt.png against
https://i.imgur.com/0Wxravb.jpg
Sorry only get vga images as I imagine imgur want to tumblr down. but fps dropped from 80 to 40 at dolmen,
And yes if you can not play with an zerg in Al'kir you are not geared for Cyrodil.

olsborg · October 2020

Incursion wrote: »

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

Luke_Flamesword · October 2020

Maybe because with this limitations everyone is using AOE proc sets and who knows how they impact performance?

YandereGirlfriend · October 2020

This test is truly the doomsday scenario for PvP.

Every game-breaking idea that they could brainstorm has been thrown into this final week of testing.

thegreat_one · October 2020

I wish I could play in PVP fights but Disconnects are very frequent to the point of me working on my PvE toon.

I can't even get double AP anymore since last monday

Taleof2Cities · October 2020

You and I agree, @olsborg.

PC NA (Gray Host) had a tough time with large-scale fights this evening ... including a 3-way scroll fight at Faregyl.

The double AP is nice but even I'm getting fatigued.

luen79rwb17_ESO · October 2020

Oh really? Don't we get a thread like this every week?

oXI_Viper_IXo · October 2020

zaria wrote: »

And yes if you can not play with an zerg in Al'kir you are not geared for Cyrodil.

Funny thing is the Alik'r dolmen zergs don't really cause much lag on consoles, yet Cyrodiil performance is absolute garbage even when you are solo at a resource with nothing but NPC guards.

virtus753 · October 2020

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Oh really? Don't we get a thread like this every week?

Yup! Because every week for the past eight weeks they’ve thrown a different combination at us in an attempt to prove that coding tweaks are not going to solve the performance issues plaguing Cyrodiil.

JamieAubrey · October 2020

I lagged like twice in the 4 hours I played today/yesterday and found it nice to play, I even had fast load screens instead of my 2+ minute ones

Vevvev · October 2020

I wish ignoring the lag worked but its always been present.... during every single AoE test...

I don't have a bad connection either with 52.6 Mbps download and 41.4 Mbps upload speed you wouldn't imagine such a network being the issue, yet sometimes the ping spikes up to over 400, skills stop firing, and when trying to enter a large battle that's ongoing you get kicked from the game.

At this point its no longer funny.

Anyron · October 2020

This test is joke.. Its completely killing solo players.. Solo non-pet sorc is unplayable atm so i refused to participate in test 7&8 .. Zos needs to understand that skills arent problem.. Few years back when game was on monthly subscription pvp was epic, there were almost 4 time players than today all spamming aoes, before almost every good skill was aoe ( looking at you batswarm dragonknights

) and game was nice with just minor lags , now its complete disaster.

caperb · October 2020

And most PvP players I know aren't even in Cyrodiil right now.
Of course most tried testing, having to endure it for some time is okay, but people also play for fun. Not being able to play half the classes = no fun = no Cyrodiil right now...

Sephyr · October 2020

Vevvev wrote: »

I wish ignoring the lag worked but its always been present.... during every single AoE test...

I don't have a bad connection either with 52.6 Mbps download and 41.4 Mbps upload speed you wouldn't imagine such a network being the issue, yet sometimes the ping spikes up to over 400, skills stop firing, and when trying to enter a large battle that's ongoing you get kicked from the game.

At this point its no longer funny.

It's also funny because I know people in the past has said to 'upgrade your PC'--despite the fact that this has been an issue that even people dropping thousands into a state of the art rig is encountering in Cyrodiil. Can't wait until they triple-down on the AoE excuse.

Bucky_13 · October 2020

caperb wrote: »

And most PvP players I know aren't even in Cyrodiil right now.
Of course most tried testing, having to endure it for some time is okay, but people also play for fun. Not being able to play half the classes = no fun = no Cyrodiil right now...

I just run my alts there to hit the reward tiers so I can get transmute crystals at the end of the campaign. Most of them have zero PvP passives etc unlocked. I know I will die a lot there, but it doesn't matter since it's all about getting AP for them while these tests are going on. Once we're done with them, I can go back to play it more seriously again....

techyeshic · October 2020

I even rubberbanding a few times last night without using a gap closer. So that's nice.

TineaCruris · October 2020

How is it performance got worse when they implemented mandated 3 second lag on most skills?

Elo106 · October 2020

zaria wrote: »

Incursion wrote: »

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

Or ZoS can not tell 80% of their customer base to get good or min speck is an i7 and 32 gig ram or an PS5 pro
https://i.imgur.com/0hvDFtt.png against
https://i.imgur.com/0Wxravb.jpg
Sorry only get vga images as I imagine imgur want to tumblr down. but fps dropped from 80 to 40 at dolmen,
And yes if you can not play with an zerg in Al'kir you are not geared for Cyrodil.

Performance is not always FPS, we are talking about SERVER lag. You can have 300 FPS and still lag due to connection, servers or game code.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2020

Incursion wrote: »

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

It's not specifically AOEs it's the number of calculations that the server has to deal with. AOEs are clearly a huge offender in that, but certainly not the only one. Last night was not terribly encouraging, I will concede that. I don't know how you get much more restrictive than the current tests.

I still saw people trying to run ball groups with what I assume was two 12 man groups sticking together.

zaria wrote: »

Incursion wrote: »

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

Or ZoS can not tell 80% of their customer base to get good or min speck is an i7 and 32 gig ram or an PS5 pro
https://i.imgur.com/0hvDFtt.png against
https://i.imgur.com/0Wxravb.jpg
Sorry only get vga images as I imagine imgur want to tumblr down. but fps dropped from 80 to 40 at dolmen,
And yes if you can not play with an zerg in Al'kir you are not geared for Cyrodil.

People need to stop equating lag with FPS. My PC is a beast. I rarely dip below 60 FPS in cyro, and usually sit right at the frame cap of 100 in PVE, but the PVP performance is still terrible. This is also pretty hard evidence that in most cases, the problem is server side.

techyeshic · October 2020

The thing is; I still see a TON of AOEs. They just are not coming from abilities. Are these other sources somehow exempt from causing calculations?

nk125x · October 2020

techyeshic wrote: »

The thing is; I still see a TON of AOEs. They just are not coming from abilities. Are these other sources somehow exempt from causing calculations?

Perhaps you refer to proc sets that no one want in Cyrodiil

techyeshic · October 2020

nk125x wrote: »

techyeshic wrote: »

The thing is; I still see a TON of AOEs. They just are not coming from abilities. Are these other sources somehow exempt from causing calculations?

Perhaps you refer to proc sets that no one want in Cyrodiil

Absolutely 💯

manny254 · October 2020

zaria wrote: »

Incursion wrote: »

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

Or ZoS can not tell 80% of their customer base to get good or min speck is an i7 and 32 gig ram or an PS5 pro
https://i.imgur.com/0hvDFtt.png against
https://i.imgur.com/0Wxravb.jpg
Sorry only get vga images as I imagine imgur want to tumblr down. but fps dropped from 80 to 40 at dolmen,
And yes if you can not play with an zerg in Al'kir you are not geared for Cyrodil.

Did you really just suggest that people need 32GBs of ram to play ESO? Lets not even mention that i7 is an almost meaningless term at this point.

EdmondDontes · October 2020

Elo106 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Incursion wrote: »

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

Or ZoS can not tell 80% of their customer base to get good or min speck is an i7 and 32 gig ram or an PS5 pro
https://i.imgur.com/0hvDFtt.png against
https://i.imgur.com/0Wxravb.jpg
Sorry only get vga images as I imagine imgur want to tumblr down. but fps dropped from 80 to 40 at dolmen,
And yes if you can not play with an zerg in Al'kir you are not geared for Cyrodil.

Performance is not always FPS, we are talking about SERVER lag. You can have 300 FPS and still lag due to connection, servers or game code.

This^

I rarely ever have fps drops that are disabling, although it does happen, but it's uncommon for lag to drop below 180-200ms. Lag is generally 180-400ms for most people.

EdmondDontes · October 2020

manny254 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Incursion wrote: »

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

Or ZoS can not tell 80% of their customer base to get good or min speck is an i7 and 32 gig ram or an PS5 pro
https://i.imgur.com/0hvDFtt.png against
https://i.imgur.com/0Wxravb.jpg
Sorry only get vga images as I imagine imgur want to tumblr down. but fps dropped from 80 to 40 at dolmen,
And yes if you can not play with an zerg in Al'kir you are not geared for Cyrodil.

Did you really just suggest that people need 32GBs of ram to play ESO? Lets not even mention that i7 is an almost meaningless term at this point.

Correct. The game is not a resource hog, except for on one core of the CPU, and an i5 that is 5 years old is plenty processor for ESO. They claimed that multi threading would be implemented but it essentially has not been.

The_Camper · October 2020

zaria wrote: »

Incursion wrote: »

Its almost as if aoe skills were not the issue...........

Or ZoS can not tell 80% of their customer base to get good or min speck is an i7 and 32 gig ram or an PS5 pro
https://i.imgur.com/0hvDFtt.png against
https://i.imgur.com/0Wxravb.jpg
Sorry only get vga images as I imagine imgur want to tumblr down. but fps dropped from 80 to 40 at dolmen,
And yes if you can not play with an zerg in Al'kir you are not geared for Cyrodil.

What you said doesn't even make sense. When people say eso lags, they mean THE LATENCY ON SERVER. a potato i3 can get 100 fps if configured properly. [snip]

[Edit for bait.]

AyaDark · October 2020

Lugs like hell - sorry PVP but unfortunatly not this week =(