Tamriel Trade Center, but console prices

Auberon1983

Hello! I'm a member of a few PS4/NA Guilds, and we use a bot to check prices on the Tamriel Trade Center (TTC). Unfortunately, most prices on the TTC are only reflecting the rates on PC (not all, but most).

Is there a way to check the prices on console? Also, a guildmate of mine is trying to find the prices for the PvP Ravager set. He has only been able to find PC prices.

Thank you in advance, and I apologise if this if this is the wrong section of the forum

Taleof2Cities

Unfortunately TTC is not console-friendly, @Auberon1983 ... because consoles don't use add-ons and there's no other easy way to upload pricing data into the TTC website (other than manually).

I'm not a console player, however, so I can't recommend a pricing method if there is no TTC data.

Maybe some other forum-goers have better advice than me.

starkerealm

Basically, the only reason TTC function is because addons can automate the workload. The thing is, TTC records all of the prices you see in game, and then uploads that to their server when you ReloadUI. There's simply too much data to collect for the system to be done by hand.

Sadly, if you want market snapshots like TTC, you'll need to come over to PC, as there is no way to replicate it onto the consoles.

Auberon1983

Thank you both, even though it's bad news lol. I appreciate it regardless

DragonRacer

PS4 NA GM here. I always warn my folks that the Discord price bot is PC prices, so there's one of two ways to handle pricing for PS4:

1. Know that PC prices tend to be a little less than PS4 prices. So, in general, our rule of thumb is to take the bot/TTC price and then add about 50% to it. So, if a motif is showing as 10k on the bot, add 5k and it should list in traders for around 15k. That isn't 100% firm on everything, of course, but over years of trial and error, this is the closest estimation and baseline we can get.

(Exception being I'm seeing folks here talk about Hollowjack motifs going for 50k+ because of how they are dropping/not dropping this year, but I am still seeing them for 5-10k at most on PS4 NA. Not sure if that's because our market for them is so different from PC or if we're behind the curve and I should go buy them all up to re-sell later. LOL)

2. Shop around the capital (Mournhold, Elden Root, Wayrest) and sub-capital (i.e. Vivec City, Alinor, Rawl-kha, Belkarth, Rimmen, Solitude) traders and look at pricing for items. Do this consistently over time while you are shopping around anyway and you can pick up on generally what items cost on our server.

Hallothiel

Nope. Finding out what a decent price is on PS4 EU means going round various main trading areas & checking out decent trade guilds to get an average price.......fun times....

(Slightly off topic, but there seem to be quite a few new ‘trade’ guilds on EU that have absolutely bugger all for sale - what is the point?!)

JKorr

If its the same thing that has been done in the past, those are dummy guilds for guilds to screw with the trader bidding/flip.

Danikat

Hallothiel wrote: »

Nope. Finding out what a decent price is on PS4 EU means going round various main trading areas & checking out decent trade guilds to get an average price.......fun times....

(Slightly off topic, but there seem to be quite a few new ‘trade’ guilds on EU that have absolutely bugger all for sale - what is the point?!)

They may not be trade guilds. I'm on PC but in this case I imagine it's similar; one of my casual, social guilds will bid on traders whenever there's enough in the guild bank, just on the off-chance we can get one cheap and sometimes it's successful. I assume it's just blind luck that sometimes we pick a trader that no one places a serious bid for.

When that happens the leaders encourage everyone to use it, but we still only get a few pages of items in total because most people don't understand or don't care about selling because the system seems too complicated and they hear all these 'horror stories' about how time consuming and expensive it can be to be a trader in this game, so they just don't bother.

Raideen

Hallothiel wrote: »

Nope. Finding out what a decent price is on PS4 EU means going round various main trading areas & checking out decent trade guilds to get an average price.......fun times....

(Slightly off topic, but there seem to be quite a few new ‘trade’ guilds on EU that have absolutely bugger all for sale - what is the point?!)

But this is actually how the game is designed. PC users are circumventing how the game is designed to be played through the use of addons.

I wish we did not have DPS addons, and trade addons. Although their intent is good, they end up hurting the community as a whole.

starkerealm

Hallothiel wrote: »

Nope. Finding out what a decent price is on PS4 EU means going round various main trading areas & checking out decent trade guilds to get an average price.......fun times....

(Slightly off topic, but there seem to be quite a few new ‘trade’ guilds on EU that have absolutely bugger all for sale - what is the point?!)

Depending on the supply, I wouldn't recommend hoovering up all the Hollowjack pages right now. The community at large hasn't realized they're much rarer now, and it'll take a little time before the supply dries up and the prices rise. (Expect to sit on them for over a year before you'll see a real price spike.)

Contingency trade guilds are an old thing that I thought we'd seen the last of.

Back when we only had a single bid, you'd see trade guilds bidding through alternate guilds on other kiosks so that if they lost their bid, they'd have a fallback location.

If they lost their main location, they'd still have the fallback. They'd disband the secondary guild at the fallback, and immediately bid 10k to snap it up. (In some cases, if they'd gotten their first pick, they'd then poke around and try to convince another guild pay for the fallback.

Multibidding basically killed this practice, though it seems that with kiosk prices on the rise again, the practice is coming back.

DragonRacer

starkerealm wrote: »

Hallothiel wrote: »

Nope. Finding out what a decent price is on PS4 EU means going round various main trading areas & checking out decent trade guilds to get an average price.......fun times....

(Slightly off topic, but there seem to be quite a few new ‘trade’ guilds on EU that have absolutely bugger all for sale - what is the point?!)

Depending on the supply, I wouldn't recommend hoovering up all the Hollowjack pages right now. The community at large hasn't realized they're much rarer now, and it'll take a little time before the supply dries up and the prices rise. (Expect to sit on them for over a year before you'll see a real price spike.)

Contingency trade guilds are an old thing that I thought we'd seen the last of.

Back when we only had a single bid, you'd see trade guilds bidding through alternate guilds on other kiosks so that if they lost their bid, they'd have a fallback location.

If they lost their main location, they'd still have the fallback. They'd disband the secondary guild at the fallback, and immediately bid 10k to snap it up. (In some cases, if they'd gotten their first pick, they'd then poke around and try to convince another guild pay for the fallback.

Multibidding basically killed this practice, though it seems that with kiosk prices on the rise again, the practice is coming back.

Multibidding did help to curb it, but the actual death knell was ZOS coding it in that a trader could no longer exchange hands with another guild i.e. a guild could no longer disband in order for another guild to hire the trader at 10k. I don't recall if it doesn't allow a disband or if it's that the trader opens up for bidding for next flip only (rather than immediate hire), but I remember seeing a few ghost guilds forced to sit on their location the full week before they eventually started drying up because it became a 100% goldsink instead of something they could turn around and sell to recoup their losses.

starkerealm

That change must have come through while I was away. I'm glad they put a stop to it.

Ilawynde

Google XBOX Sales History

There is nice app that we use for suggested item pricing.

It is based on actual sales not asking price.............................across all guilds.

Author does some nice work!