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Please don't EVER make Arenas required for an event again.
Atherakhia
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Arenas aren't fun. They were hardly fun the first time through. But the eleventymillionth time through after farming the one specific item you want, they are a chore at best and punishment at worst. They simply take too long and the difficulty disparity between normal (please shoot me I'd rather AFK and lick paint off the wall than do another wave of this nonsense) and vet (please give me the one item I want because I'd rather pull a double working at McDonalds than do another run of this nonsense).
Dramatically decrease the difficulty in vet and allow us to do 'hard mode' by simply spawning all waves at once. Cause something needs to be done about the amount of time each arena takes, the amount of attention required to do each run, and the amount of runs we must do to complete the task we're after. But then to add one more scab to rip off, you make them part of a holiday event...
Dramatically decrease the difficulty in vet and allow us to do 'hard mode' by simply spawning all waves at once. Cause something needs to be done about the amount of time each arena takes, the amount of attention required to do each run, and the amount of runs we must do to complete the task we're after. But then to add one more scab to rip off, you make them part of a holiday event...
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why are we decreasing the difficulty of vet arenas? Weren't you complaining that normal is just boring?23 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Agreed.
I did one of the arenas once. By the 4th boss I was already bored. I do not care for that format. I think a 2 person dungeon might be fun, but solo dungeon stuff is just boring to me.
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Atherakhia✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Why are we decreasing the difficulty of vet arenas? Weren't you complaining that normal is just boring?
Because I said, then make a hard mode...1 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Also, @Atherakhia, Maelstrom isn't technically required ... same as doing the Arena on Vet (also not required).
You can still get your tickets by doing another boss type.
You choosing to try Vet difficulty is totally fine. Just be prepared for the extra time it takes.13 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭How are Arenas "required" by the event? Sure, you can get one more 'good' plunder skull from them, but you get your tickets from whichever first boss you do each day. And the Dremora motifs that drop there are tradeable, right? So what's 'required'?27 -
Firstmep✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭You can simply not do the arenas and buy whatever items you are missing from another player.14 -
Wolfpaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Atherakhia wrote: »Arenas aren't fun. They were hardly fun the first time through. But the eleventymillionth time through after farming the one specific item you want, they are a chore at best and punishment at worst. They simply take too long and the difficulty disparity between normal (please shoot me I'd rather AFK and lick paint off the wall than do another wave of this nonsense) and vet (please give me the one item I want because I'd rather pull a double working at McDonalds than do another run of this nonsense).
Dramatically decrease the difficulty in vet and allow us to do 'hard mode' by simply spawning all waves at once. Cause something needs to be done about the amount of time each arena takes, the amount of attention required to do each run, and the amount of runs we must do to complete the task we're after. But then to add one more scab to rip off, you make them part of a holiday event...
You don't have to do arenas for this event, or any other.Edited by Wolfpaw on October 23, 2020 8:42PM12 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »How are Arenas "required" by the event? Sure, you can get one more 'good' plunder skull from them, but you get your tickets from whichever first boss you do each day. And the Dremora motifs that drop there are tradeable, right? So what's 'required'?
Game is RNG based. The more chances you take at a gold drop, the higher your chances to obtain the items. Seems required to me.2 -
driosketch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »How are Arenas "required" by the event? Sure, you can get one more 'good' plunder skull from them, but you get your tickets from whichever first boss you do each day. And the Dremora motifs that drop there are tradeable, right? So what's 'required'?
Game is RNG based. The more chances you take at a gold drop, the higher your chances to obtain the items. Seems required to me.
There are multiple ways to get the RNG items other than running an arena though.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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Wolfpaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »How are Arenas "required" by the event? Sure, you can get one more 'good' plunder skull from them, but you get your tickets from whichever first boss you do each day. And the Dremora motifs that drop there are tradeable, right? So what's 'required'?
Game is RNG based. The more chances you take at a gold drop, the higher your chances to obtain the items. Seems required to me.
The "requirement" is in your head, free yourself!18 -
thorwyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Will there EVER be an event where people are not complaining? I don't get it.. really. You can do nMA in 25 minutes tops without even looking at the screen. It doesn't get any easier... either do it or leave it. All you're losing is a shot at a Dremora style page that goes for 500g on the market.And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon16 -
ShawnLaRock✭✭✭✭✭
✭No one is forcing you to do an Arena - but you can literally light attack through Normal Mael in a heartbeat to get your Plunder Skull each day.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Atherakhia wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Why are we decreasing the difficulty of vet arenas? Weren't you complaining that normal is just boring?
Because I said, then make a hard mode...
So, under your suggestion, we've got:
Normal = boring as AFKing to lick paint
Veteran = now decreased in difficulty so its closer to Normal, which was boring AF
Hard Mode = nuke all the enemies at once like its a solo dungeon run
Hard Mode might be a cool addition to the current status quo, but I'm still confused about how nerfing Vet mode to be closer to boring Normal difficulty is somehow better. Unless you want the vet weapons easier. I guess it would do for that.4 -
PizzaCat82✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Normal's a guranteed drop, and doesn't require much thinking at all.
I've done it 13 times, saving the last stage to turn in each day. Bam. Insta-plunder skull3 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Normal Maelstrom takes 20 mins max using light and heavy attacks. Nothing says you have to do them on vet to get the rewards for the event. So "take too long" is hardly a valid complaint.2 -
YandereGirlfriend✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My go-to for this event is normal Blackrose Prison.
Even in a PUG it's 30 minutes tops and super easy. It drops three fantastic sets for selling on guild stores and the actual Arena weapons are useful for many builds. It also drops the most valuable Dremora motifs that, if you sit on them for a few months, will net you some decent gold.
It's completely win-win.4 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »How are Arenas "required" by the event? Sure, you can get one more 'good' plunder skull from them, but you get your tickets from whichever first boss you do each day. And the Dremora motifs that drop there are tradeable, right? So what's 'required'?
Game is RNG based. The more chances you take at a gold drop, the higher your chances to obtain the items. Seems required to me.
The event does not require you to get all the gold plunder skulls in a day, in order to get some special result. i.e, there is nothing "required" about Arenas. "I'd like another shot at gold skull drops" is not a requirement.11 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The arenas aren't required. Just buy the 2 motif pages that drop from them specifically and do the other things you prefer doing.
I'm skipping the arenas, not because I'm overly annoyed by them, but because it's just not worth my time. I got the motif pages from them last time and there is nothing unique I want there otherwise.0 -
Kurat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wait till the end of the event, guild stores will be overflowed with the motifs and receipes and prices have dropped. You can pick up any of them for 2-300gold lol. Why even bother doing any bosses.
But if you really feel the need to get it yourself then fyi you don't have to do MA, other arenas count too. You can get groups easily in Craglorn for nDSA or nBRP.2 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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This, others like them or need stuff from them.You can simply not do the arenas and buy whatever items you are missing from another player.
Now the pages dropping from trials are most expensive and lots run normal trials during the event.
You want the delve, public dungeon, WB and dolmen as they are very fast to get.
Edited by zaria on October 24, 2020 2:28AMGrinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think I made it past the first boss once in that arena spot in wrothgar (there's a zone I haven't been to in a while)...
yeah, I don't get it...running it definitely helps with refining builds and rotations though, no question of that...
I think I'd rather die to snipe a thousand times over though than running through 8 or so cycles of gaming hell/finger dancing with pixels...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
Langdon64✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »How are Arenas "required" by the event? Sure, you can get one more 'good' plunder skull from them, but you get your tickets from whichever first boss you do each day. And the Dremora motifs that drop there are tradeable, right? So what's 'required'?
The achievement for the holiday requires an arena plunder skull so yeah, they are required if you want the achievement.1 -
Starlight_Whisper✭✭✭✭✭
✭I like arenas just dsa takes forever and bro is actual some effort even on normal.0 -
Starlight_Whisper✭✭✭✭✭
✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »How are Arenas "required" by the event? Sure, you can get one more 'good' plunder skull from them, but you get your tickets from whichever first boss you do each day. And the Dremora motifs that drop there are tradeable, right? So what's 'required'?
The achievement for the holiday requires an arena plunder skull so yeah, they are required if you want the achievement.
Dsa you can do with 4 people and only need to do it once in 12 days was it for achievement?1 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Kiralyn2000 wrote: »How are Arenas "required" by the event? Sure, you can get one more 'good' plunder skull from them, but you get your tickets from whichever first boss you do each day. And the Dremora motifs that drop there are tradeable, right? So what's 'required'?
Game is RNG based. The more chances you take at a gold drop, the higher your chances to obtain the items. Seems required to me.
The event does not require you to get all the gold plunder skulls in a day, in order to get some special result. i.e, there is nothing "required" about Arenas. "I'd like another shot at gold skull drops" is not a requirement.
It is a requirement to run all that stuff if the player intends to purchase the house with gold, or get motifs, or any of the drops from the event.0 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Kiralyn2000 wrote: »How are Arenas "required" by the event? Sure, you can get one more 'good' plunder skull from them, but you get your tickets from whichever first boss you do each day. And the Dremora motifs that drop there are tradeable, right? So what's 'required'?
Game is RNG based. The more chances you take at a gold drop, the higher your chances to obtain the items. Seems required to me.
The event does not require you to get all the gold plunder skulls in a day, in order to get some special result. i.e, there is nothing "required" about Arenas. "I'd like another shot at gold skull drops" is not a requirement.
It is a requirement to run all that stuff if the player intends to purchase the house with gold, or get motifs, or any of the drops from the event.
It may be a requirement to buy the house with gold, but is in no way a requirement to get the associated motifs or any other drop specifically. The motifs are not bound and can be traded for or bought. Any other drops can be earned from other golden plunder skulls or potentially bought/traded for as well.
The only requirement is to run one normal arena at some point during the event to unlock the ability to buy the house with gold.1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ummmmm, no. We do not need to nerf the difficulty of vMA. It is already easy enough.
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Contaminate✭✭✭✭✭
✭it wouldnt be an issue if the damn things worked. MA is lagging to hell and crashing my game half the time0
