WhiteScythe wrote: »I've realised I have a really hard time trying to convince myself to pickup a new class to try something different, I feel like this shouldn't be the case.
I like to complete things, whether that be achievements, skyshards, zones etc. The thought of doing all this over and over on another characters just makes me cringe. Let's not forget mount training..
So I'm asking you guys how do you handle it, how do you make it work?
I have 18 characters. 15 are only used for daily crafting. 2 are crafter/tank that i use for crafting and sometimes pledges (one is my old main). 1 is my main that i use for all achievments, colections etc.
ESO has a big problem when it comes to creating new full characters. Riding and research takes months. Colelcting skilllpoints and skyshards again. I remember that i spend 3 months just to get my new main through all quests and i think it took 6-8 months total to get him into a position my old main was.
SpiritofESO wrote: »WhiteScythe wrote: »I don't know if it's just me but starting new characters just seems like a whole lot of work to do.
I agree.
I have one Main and one Alt and I purchased all Skyshards (with Crowns) and some skill lines because I just didn't want to do that all over again.
SpiritofESO wrote: »WhiteScythe wrote: »I don't know if it's just me but starting new characters just seems like a whole lot of work to do.
I agree.
I have one Main and one Alt and I purchased all Skyshards (with Crowns) and some skill lines because I just didn't want to do that all over again.
The issue is that some of us do not have over $400.00 US Dollars PER CHARACTER to spend on mounts, skill lines and skyshards that take months and months of grinding. This is of course on top of ESO+ and any mount or other cosmetic things from the crown store.
It would take 56450 crowns to unlock the above mentioned and that does not include vampire, werewolf.
I would have an extremely hard time spending 400+ dollars for time gated skill unlocks if this was ACCOUNT wide, but I could absolutely not do that for a single character.
For an entire account that would be right at $7000.00 dollars. WOW
See this is where I also go.. well that sucks.SpiritofESO wrote: »WhiteScythe wrote: »I don't know if it's just me but starting new characters just seems like a whole lot of work to do.
I agree.
I have one Main and one Alt and I purchased all Skyshards (with Crowns) and some skill lines because I just didn't want to do that all over again.
The issue is that some of us do not have over $400.00 US Dollars PER CHARACTER to spend on mounts, skill lines and skyshards that take months and months of grinding. This is of course on top of ESO+ and any mount or other cosmetic things from the crown store.
It would take 56450 crowns to unlock the above mentioned and that does not include vampire, werewolf.
I would have an extremely hard time spending 400+ dollars for time gated skill unlocks if this was ACCOUNT wide, but I could absolutely not do that for a single character.
For an entire account that would be right at $7000.00 dollars. WOW
WhiteScythe wrote: »See this is where I also go.. well that sucks.SpiritofESO wrote: »WhiteScythe wrote: »I don't know if it's just me but starting new characters just seems like a whole lot of work to do.
I agree.
I have one Main and one Alt and I purchased all Skyshards (with Crowns) and some skill lines because I just didn't want to do that all over again.
The issue is that some of us do not have over $400.00 US Dollars PER CHARACTER to spend on mounts, skill lines and skyshards that take months and months of grinding. This is of course on top of ESO+ and any mount or other cosmetic things from the crown store.
It would take 56450 crowns to unlock the above mentioned and that does not include vampire, werewolf.
I would have an extremely hard time spending 400+ dollars for time gated skill unlocks if this was ACCOUNT wide, but I could absolutely not do that for a single character.
For an entire account that would be right at $7000.00 dollars. WOW
Why are we paying to skip the game on other characters? This to me seems like a serious design flaw.. and the sheer amount to do so as pointed out above is absolutely ridiculous.
Instead of fixing the game to allow account-wide things to help "ease" how stupid it is to obtain all this stuff again i.e mount speed, skyshards, skill lines etc.. ZOS/Beth just wants us to pay with real cash and that my friends is where you see the true colours of this company.
I love the game don't get me wrong, I just don't like the way they go about these things instead of trying to improve the game, they just want to improve their wallets.
Kiralyn2000 wrote: »SpiritofESO wrote: »WhiteScythe wrote: »I don't know if it's just me but starting new characters just seems like a whole lot of work to do.
I agree.
I have one Main and one Alt and I purchased all Skyshards (with Crowns) and some skill lines because I just didn't want to do that all over again.
The issue is that some of us do not have over $400.00 US Dollars PER CHARACTER to spend on mounts, skill lines and skyshards that take months and months of grinding. This is of course on top of ESO+ and any mount or other cosmetic things from the crown store.
It would take 56450 crowns to unlock the above mentioned and that does not include vampire, werewolf.
I would have an extremely hard time spending 400+ dollars for time gated skill unlocks if this was ACCOUNT wide, but I could absolutely not do that for a single character.
For an entire account that would be right at $7000.00 dollars. WOW
The other option, of course, would be to just play the game. There's no reason for anyone to "need" to spend those Crowns. It's entirely a personal decision to pay to avoid playing.
WhiteScythe wrote: »@Raideen yep it's why I think I also last a month or two and go well, not having any fun anymore so I end up quitting for a while. It's been a cycle I've done since launch sadly and I really wanted ESO to draw me in and keep me here.
WhiteScythe wrote: »@Raideen yep it's why I think I also last a month or two and go well, not having any fun anymore so I end up quitting for a while. It's been a cycle I've done since launch sadly and I really wanted ESO to draw me in and keep me here.
Man that is exactly what happens to my GF and I. She played in beta, said it was terrible...she came back and asked me to play it a few years ago. I love MMO's so I thought why not. I LOVED Morrowind and I always liked Bethesda as a game studio (the old Bethesda...new Bethesda not so much) so we bough the game and dove in.
I think initially we played for about 6 months, then got fed up with the tedium and loot crates. I started seeing the design behind the game instead of the game which takes me out of the immersive element I was trying to get into in the first place. We left the game, then came back after some time. Then left after a month or two, then came back, and rinse and repeat.
Both of us HATE the combat in this game, specifically weaving/animation cancelling. I know my GF is trying her bum off to get gear, skill and rotations down based on popular builds but she is just not seeing the DPS. I am the same, but I am doing a little bit better than her. And its not for a lack of trying. I study CP, where to put them, what abilities to use, what potions to use, what armor to use etc etc etc and I still can not parse more than 25k and that IS with weaving.
So, its just frustration outside of the fact that weaving itself is physically painful. I could balance 75 keybinds on my hunter in WOW and perform at the top of the class but I cant manage 10 here becasue of the bar swapping (which she REALLY hates). The bar swapping is an element from them making the game to work on console and PC. But its not really that great of a feature on PC.
I dunna. I dont want to keep talking about all this becasue it will just make me log off and go find something else to do. I truly want to do well and enjoy the game but every time I get close, ZOS reminds me of why I leave in the first place.
Kiralyn2000 wrote: »SpiritofESO wrote: »WhiteScythe wrote: »I don't know if it's just me but starting new characters just seems like a whole lot of work to do.
I agree.
I have one Main and one Alt and I purchased all Skyshards (with Crowns) and some skill lines because I just didn't want to do that all over again.
The issue is that some of us do not have over $400.00 US Dollars PER CHARACTER to spend on mounts, skill lines and skyshards that take months and months of grinding. This is of course on top of ESO+ and any mount or other cosmetic things from the crown store.
It would take 56450 crowns to unlock the above mentioned and that does not include vampire, werewolf.
I would have an extremely hard time spending 400+ dollars for time gated skill unlocks if this was ACCOUNT wide, but I could absolutely not do that for a single character.
For an entire account that would be right at $7000.00 dollars. WOW
The other option, of course, would be to just play the game. There's no reason for anyone to "need" to spend those Crowns. It's entirely a personal decision to pay to avoid playing.
Actually if you want to get a feel for how your build will work, many of those "crowns" are necessary, especially sky shards and skill lines from guilds.
The fact is those are put into game as tedium to pressure the player into spending dumb amounts of money on them. That is the design decision behind them. I can see those being used to slow progression for a new player who is still learning the game, but by the time the main character unlocks all of them there is no real need to gate the player anymore.