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top pvp classes

Maestery
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Hello i am new into eso after 14 long years of wow i quited it and was suggested eso.
I am really intrested of pvp aspect.
What seems really cool for me is if u actually really good on ur class u can play 1 vs x.
I am wondering what is the best pvp classes atm?
I am myself mostly looking into Magicka sorcerer,stamina nightblade and stamina warden. Allso what is best race suited for those classes?
I guess i am in a lot of ways mostly solo player and enjoy that aspect. Not saying no to future groups :D .

Wery thankful if some1 can share some info :).
  • Jeremy
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    Maestery wrote: »
    Hello i am new into eso after 14 long years of wow i quited it and was suggested eso.
    I am really intrested of pvp aspect.
    What seems really cool for me is if u actually really good on ur class u can play 1 vs x.
    I am wondering what is the best pvp classes atm?
    I am myself mostly looking into Magicka sorcerer,stamina nightblade and stamina warden. Allso what is best race suited for those classes?
    I guess i am in a lot of ways mostly solo player and enjoy that aspect. Not saying no to future groups :D .

    Wery thankful if some1 can share some info :).

    I think the general consensus is Necromancers and Wardens.

    I only do No CP PvP and in that context the two classes that get my attention most often are Night Blades and Dragon Knights. In the right hands, those two classes are very powerful.
  • doomette
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    In my experience (and of course, experiences may vary), magsorcs are easier to get the hang of, and are more forgiving than stamblades. That’s not to say that the magsorcs you’ll come across are all potatoes being propelled by their class, nor stamblades all über elite sweaties.
    Stamdens are fun, too, as long as you don’t mind micromanaging a bunch of buffs. They also have a stam-based heal very early on, though I guess that’s not as relevant since they’ve made vigor one of the first skills you get after doing the PVP intro quest.

    Not PVP-related, but if you choose magsorc or stamden and decide to use the pet, please, for the love of all that is good and holy, despawn it when you’re in town around the banker and crafting tables ;)

    Race-wise: Bretons are great for a first mag character, as sustain is easier. For stams, wood elves are good for sustain, orcs are also good, you’d just have to account for not having that extra recovery. I’ve found that starting off new in PC (from max CP on XBox), my biggest issue was sustain.
    There’s also dark elves and khajiit, which can go either mag or stam. That’s nice if you decide to change from one to the other and don’t want to make a new character or pay for a race change.
    Edited by doomette on October 17, 2020 11:44PM
  • oscarovegren
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    Orc or nord for stamina DD. You wont need Wood elf recovery since major/minor regen buffs gets a boost next patch. Serpent mundus + artaeum will be enough for all stamclasses
  • doomette
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    Orc or nord for stamina DD. You wont need Wood elf recovery since major/minor regen buffs gets a boost next patch. Serpent mundus + artaeum will be enough for all stamclasses

    Good to know, I keep forgetting to read the PTS patch notes. 😳

    But also, I’m biased towards wood elves because they’re smoll and adorable and my first character/main is a wood elf stamblade.
  • West93
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    The meta classes changes each patch.

    It depends what kind of play style you like, speedy fast paced high damage build with lots of kitting?

    Stand your ground tanky class that plays defensive till right moment for ultimate burst and can take lots of punishment?
  • Kurat
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    If you wanna 1vX go necro or warden, any other class is inferior and mostly used in zerg.
  • doomette
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    Kurat wrote: »
    If you wanna 1vX go necro or warden, any other class is inferior and mostly used in zerg.

    Well, I think maybe the focus when first starting out should be more on learning the ropes than instantly becoming a 1vX superstar, no? So maybe being in a group (not necessarily a zerg, since those aren’t very conducive to learning self-reliance) of more experienced players who can help you might be a better focus than going straight to 1vXing? Not that the warden or necro aren’t still good choices for that, just that straight up dismissing the other classes doesn’t seem particularly helpful. I know the OP asked specifically about 1vX, but brand new player, might not even be at CP160 yet, little to no knowledge and experience of this game’s combat mechanics, and all that, maybe should learn the basics first.
    Edited by doomette on October 18, 2020 12:42AM
  • Maestery
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    doomette wrote: »
    Kurat wrote: »
    If you wanna 1vX go necro or warden, any other class is inferior and mostly used in zerg.

    Well, I think maybe the focus when first starting out should be more on learning the ropes than instantly becoming a 1vX superstar, no? So maybe being in a group (not necessarily a zerg, since those aren’t very conducive to learning self-reliance) of more experienced players who can help you might be a better focus than going straight to 1vXing? Not that the warden or necro aren’t still good choices for that, just that straight up dismissing the other classes doesn’t seem particularly helpful. I know the OP asked specifically about 1vX, but brand new player, might not even be at CP160 yet, little to no knowledge and experience of this game’s combat mechanics, and all that, maybe should learn the basics first.

    Yeah the 1 vs x is my endgame goal. Before that ofc i wanna learn game basics and so on. I just wondered overall what are good choices atm :).
    ANd some here asked what gamestyle i like ,well i don't like the weit that 1 perfect moment for 30 minute playstyle to get that 1 perfect skill out ,so i think probably faster playstyle.
    I know i got tons to learn eso is so much diefrent then wow and i like it. It will definetly take some time @ start to get fully emerged and the feeling.

    Wery thankful for the replys :)
  • Maestery
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    Maestery wrote: »
    doomette wrote: »
    Kurat wrote: »
    If you wanna 1vX go necro or warden, any other class is inferior and mostly used in zerg.

    Well, I think maybe the focus when first starting out should be more on learning the ropes than instantly becoming a 1vX superstar, no? So maybe being in a group (not necessarily a zerg, since those aren’t very conducive to learning self-reliance) of more experienced players who can help you might be a better focus than going straight to 1vXing? Not that the warden or necro aren’t still good choices for that, just that straight up dismissing the other classes doesn’t seem particularly helpful. I know the OP asked specifically about 1vX, but brand new player, might not even be at CP160 yet, little to no knowledge and experience of this game’s combat mechanics, and all that, maybe should learn the basics first.

    Yeah the 1 vs x is my endgame goal. Before that ofc i wanna learn game basics and so on. I just wondered overall what are good choices atm :).
    ANd some here asked what gamestyle i like ,well i don't like the weit that 1 perfect moment for 30 minute playstyle to get that 1 perfect skill out ,so i think probably faster playstyle.
    I know i got tons to learn eso is so much diefrent then wow and i like it. It will definetly take some time @ start to get fully emerged and the feeling
    Ofc i allso wanna get into pve allso as i andurstand i need gear from there so kinda need to get into that :). THere seems to be a lot of content and hard stuff to doo and as former wow mythic raider i think it will be really cool .

    Wery thankful for the replys :)

  • Wolfpaw
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    Kurat wrote: »
    If you wanna 1vX go necro or warden, any other class is inferior and mostly used in zerg.

    Not all true.

    Op play the class you like visually best, as a long time mmo player you already know all it takes is one patch to knock top classes down.

    Check out twitch ~ Fengrush (stamsorc 1vX), Grimhallow (best stamblade 1vX), thogardpvp (fom 1vX).
    Edited by Wolfpaw on October 18, 2020 5:39AM
  • Drdeath20
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    Whatever you choose it will have its periods of being strong and its periods of being weak. It might take a patch or even a year or 2 but at some point whatever class you do choose will be on the exact opposite end of the ranking tier as it is today.
  • Maestery
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    SO to i andurstand correct that i kinda need to choose what i wanna doo more in eso whit 1 char pve and pvp? I should have 2 diefrent chars leveled?
    SO i can farm gear whit my pve char for my pvp char or how does this part work exactly?
  • Kurat
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    Maestery wrote: »
    SO to i andurstand correct that i kinda need to choose what i wanna doo more in eso whit 1 char pve and pvp? I should have 2 diefrent chars leveled?
    SO i can farm gear whit my pve char for my pvp char or how does this part work exactly?

    You can do both pvp and pve with 1 toon if you change gear and some skills around. That's why I recommended necro. Stamcro is top dps in pve and op in pvp.
    What some others mentioned about classes changing every few patch is true but necro and warden are paid classes and always remain on top. If anyone hopes otherwise then they are delusional, its just business.
  • thisoneisdank
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    stamina warden and necro, but don't bother the endgame pvp is dead
    zos removed all skill gap between new and good player ,
    they *** up animation canceling, added cast times on ults and proc sets
    almost all skills since lunch barley got buffs and uniqueness since people complained non stopped and they nerfed them.
    bottom line is eso pvp is not competitive and don't bother if that's what you looking for
  • Maestery
    Maestery
    stamina warden and necro, but don't bother the endgame pvp is dead
    zos removed all skill gap between new and good player ,
    they *** up animation canceling, added cast times on ults and proc sets
    almost all skills since lunch barley got buffs and uniqueness since people complained non stopped and they nerfed them.
    bottom line is eso pvp is not competitive and don't bother if that's what you looking for

    Are you sure about that? Been checking twitch and youtube the pvp content there looks to be wery active.
  • Maestery
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    THanks for all the replys :)
  • Weesacs
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    Just play a 40k health werewolf with engine guardian and your two wolf pets out ... seems everyone is doing this nowadays 👍
    Edited by Weesacs on October 18, 2020 4:44PM
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  • Gracous
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    I would recommend finding a good guild to join. They can help you with game mechanics and what to do and what not to do (ie making gold quickly and farming gear). Enjoy the PvE side of the game first before you get into PvP.

    PvP is undergoing testing right now and mechanics are always changing. If you do PvE first you won't rage quit after trying PvP.

    Hope this helps and Welcome to ESO!
  • gatekeeper13
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    Most difficult to kill players I ve faced are always Necros and Wardens. Ridiculously tanky classes while pretty hard-hitting at the same time.

    One could say they are actually balanced.
  • relentless_turnip
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    I find 1 v X easiest on my stamsorc...
    Despite what a lot of people say most classes can be great for this style of play it just depends how you build it.

    I enjoy mobility, but you can be nearly as successful with a more tanky block based set up.

    Generally I have found you thrive best on a playstyle you enjoy and most classes can be moulded to achieve this.

    There is a big mountain to climb in terms of PvP and the skill gap. I would advise playing the way you enjoy and overtime(and a bit of advice) you can build something that accommodates this.
  • AMeanOne
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    Go stamblade, it was one of the three you mentioned and they are the best class for solo. They're faster paced than the tank and spank necros and wardens.
  • Flaaklypa
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    This patch stamdens are the best vX class, stamcro coming in close. Stamdens are very good 1vX since they have one of the best burst heals in the game, which also stuns.

    Next patch im not too sure, since i do not theorycraft, though i would guess stamcros are still gonna be S tier, and probably stamblades
  • Maestery
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    Question when i finish intro and when level 3 i start questing in wester skyrim automaticly should i be questing somewhere else or this is good as any? I remember seeing some video telling something about starter questing zones.
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    Would say stamcro, stamden, magsorc and maybe proc magdk but since you are new and will probably play no cp (championpoint) I'm not really sure how the meta looks like (probably just proc sets).

    If you just want to play PvP in open world every class can do "fine" but this doesn't mean that they are all fine. The problem with most classes is that they don't have a counter anymore against block, dodge and healing (you can bypass that weakness to an extend with proc sets tho). For example you can set up a perfect burst combo on a nightblade (and hit it) but your opponent will most likely survive it and then just start blocking or dodging and healing up to full hp while you can't do anything against that. Meanwhile stamcro has a hard hitting undodgeable aoe heal debuff, proc magdk has a lot of undodgeable stuff and dots ignore block, stamden is just really (like REALLY) tanky while still having good burst and magsorc skills are mostly mediocre except for their ultimate and their gapcloser which are extremely strong.

    Keep in mind that they change the meta often, so the meta classes can easily fall with every patch.
    Maestery wrote: »
    SO to i andurstand correct that i kinda need to choose what i wanna doo more in eso whit 1 char pve and pvp? I should have 2 diefrent chars leveled?
    SO i can farm gear whit my pve char for my pvp char or how does this part work exactly?

    Yes, gear is account wide and not bound to a character. Tbh, you can't really compare ESO and WoW, they're completely different games. WoW is all about gearing, item level, vertical progression and timegates while ESO is more about horizontal progression (playing new characters, experimenting around with different sets etc). The only thing which takes long is maxing out CP (which you don't even need if you play no CP PvP), you can farm all your gear in one day actually, no timegates.
    Maestery wrote: »
    Question when i finish intro and when level 3 i start questing in wester skyrim automaticly should i be questing somewhere else or this is good as any? I remember seeing some video telling something about starter questing zones.

    Just do mainquests in whatever zone you want to play in (the ones which award skill points). Other than that focus on leveling up guild skill lines (psijic skill line, fighters/mage guild (stamina/mag char), undaunted, scrying (only required on one char to farm mythic items), visit PvP for the stamina heal and ignore thieves guild and dark brotherhood completely). Reach 160 CP and farm a set and you're already on an even playing field in no CP PvP.
    I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.
  • Maestery
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    What is cp pvp? As i andurstand cp is like level si get after reaching lvl 50 and then i get points i can use like on somekinda passive trees? As i andurstand there is diefrent pvp what counts cp ?
  • Wolfpaw
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    Maestery wrote: »
    What is cp pvp? As i andurstand cp is like level si get after reaching lvl 50 and then i get points i can use like on somekinda passive trees? As i andurstand there is diefrent pvp what counts cp ?

    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Champion

    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Cyrodiil

    Edited by Wolfpaw on October 18, 2020 11:32PM
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