Stam dk help

RABIDxWOLVERINE
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First off thanks for reading and helping me out I really appreciate it.

I took a 6 month break and have come back to find my stam dk has some issues. I know gear is one of them and I am working on getting the gear I need. Overall the damage seems good I’m not an elite player but I can complete most content. I currently am running off of Alcasts venom build. I want to do more trials and get dungeons but could use some help I think. My main complaint is my sustain is terrible it seems like I am constantly out of stamina and that kills my flow and dps.

I run an imperial stam dk on Xbox and currently run 2x Selene 5x non perfected relequen and 5x lokke. I am working on getting advancing yokuda. I have gear but haven’t improved it yet. I have never been able to beat VMA and at this point have pretty much given up on getting the maelstrom bow. I don’t have the time to really sink into it like I should nor do I have the patience as there are other things I’d rather be doing. Is the masters bow a suitable replacement?

As far as rotation I am basically working off of alcasts rotation but if I add the masters bow I will need to incorporate I think poison injection would it be best to do this by dropping molten whip? Or should I swap something else out?

Any general tips on how to improve my sustain and dps would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
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  • Fennwitty
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    Well you're very front-loaded to damage/crit with your gear sets at the expense of resources and regen.

    What are your enchants like? I find absorb stam enchantments can help a good deal on one or both weapons and you can use poisons instead in trials.

    Your CP will also come into this a lot.

    When going all-out, you're going to need to chug potions with stam restore proactively. Practice throwing in some heavy attacks instead of some light attacks to your rotation, and try to time it for when the enemy's off-balance which helps restore further.

    If you're soloing, you'll have to change some skills and possibly gear to provide self sustain. Outside a group you don't have the synergies and heals and whatnot to supplement you.

    EDIT: And depending on the improvement quality of your existing gear, you could see substantial resource total gains by improving the quality of the gear and/or the enchantments on them. Particularly with the 'big' armor pieces: head, chest and legs. Infused 'big' pieces will boost enchant amounts farther.
    Edited by Fennwitty on October 15, 2020 7:12PM
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  • Danksta
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    nMA drops weapons now
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  • Fennwitty
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    Danksta wrote: »
    nMA drops weapons now

    This too, yeah. You don't have to do Vet to get a Maelstrom Bow. Doing vet now gives a 'perfected' Maelstrom Bow which is the same but with extra +Crit.
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  • RABIDxWOLVERINE
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    @Fennwitty @danksta thank you for your replies. Would you guys say the non perfected is worthwhile for the time being until I can get motivated and spend hours beating my head into the vet version? Maybe I’ll do that this weekend.

    To answer your questions fenn (hope you don’t mind me shorting that) I have all gold gear minus the adv yok that I just acquired which I will probably gold it out this weekend if possible (chromium is ridiculous though) and my enchants are either weapon damage or poison/disease I can’t remember but they are also gold.

    As far as CP goes I have the max in mooncalf for the 15% stam recovery and using blue food I have a lousy 714 return. I was looking some things up yesterday and found that I should use the Arteaum takeaway broth which gives health Stam and recovery for both, while it’s expensive I figured I could use it for vet dungeons and trials but my concern is now health. Using this food it boosts my stam recovery by about 400 to over 1100 but my health went from ~20k To less than 18k now my question is will I have the survivability to do the content?

    Thanks again for your replies I appreciate it!
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  • Danksta
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    The extra crit on your back bar from the perfected version is a very small dps increase. If you're not interested in min/maxing completely I wouldn't worry about perfected.

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  • RABIDxWOLVERINE
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    Thanks @Danksta how much harder is VMA compared to normal?
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  • Fennwitty
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    Bow:
    Normal bow is a great help for DPS even without the extra crit. It can be a stepping stone for when you're ready to go back and try vet (if you wish to).

    Food:
    Stam regen most cost-efficient food (at least on PC) is purple Dubious Camoran Throne drink. You can keep the Artaeum Takeaway Broth for really challenging content but Throne should help get you through most dungeons and +0 trials.

    CP:
    Sticking with CP, maxing Mooncalf might not be the most efficient. Don't forget about the other green skills that give discounts on Roll Dodging, Blocking, Break Free, Sprinting -- those activities can be huge drains on their own, so reducing costs should help your sustain. Partly depends on your playstyle.

    HP:
    A total DPS HP of 17900ish will work for most things. I've seen people survive (most of the time) with a lot less. Just keep some damage shield skills available and maybe potions with healing for particularly tough content. If someone in the group runs Ebon armor you'll get 1000 more HP.

    Skills:
    Looking at the 'Venom' build default abilities, you aren't able to capitalize on your DK Earthen Heart resource regen passive Helping Hands. If you can work in an Earthen Heart skill that uses Magicka, you'll get a Stam rebate. So by using your Magicka pool you're restoring your Stamina pool.

    You probably are already, but by keeping up Venomous Claws (always applies poisoned) you'll get incoming 500 Stam through Combustion passive, and other skills with poison damage have a chance to proc it too.

    Making sure you keep using Ultimates continually will give you restore through Battle Roar passive. Each time you use Standard of Might you'll get 11,500 resources back. So also make sure your light attack weaving's good to continue generating ultimate.

    Deadly Cloak is real expensive too. Consider if you're really able to get benefit in a given fight and don't cast if you're not going to be right next to enemies (or getting AOEd constantly). It's a waste of stam if it's not hitting anything.
    Edited by Fennwitty on October 16, 2020 6:58PM
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  • Kurat
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    DKs have the worst sustain of all classes, especially magdk. I have to use parse food and put some points into health or use health enchants. And also FYI, stam DK is the bottom stamina dps class next patch. Other classes hit 15-20k more lmao. So if you're into pve endgame I would look into another class.
  • RABIDxWOLVERINE
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    @Fennwitty thank you for taking the time to write all that. There is a ton of great info in there and I may have to rework my skills. I’m interested to see how the arteaum food works in a trial setting. I think part of the problem may be me rushing. I notice sometimes I’m trying to smash through my rotation faster than I should and maybe that is causing me to miss light attacks. I’m not the greatest player but I want to try and get better. I would love to one day be able to do vet trials and not feel like I’m a drag.

    @Kurat while I do want to do more endgame stuff but I will never change My class I love my character and that’s the guy i do everything with so I’m not looking to change. I think I like warden a bit more but this is my guy.

    Thank you guys for the replies though I do appreciate it
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