Shield armor barely higher than off hand defending???
Draevik
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I never quite understood this. The shield should have the highest armor in the game even WITHOUT CP. It should have more armor than a chest piece. I don't know about you but even not trying to block, the chances are the shield would get hit a lot more. Most people don't tend to puff out their chest and say "come on bro try to stab me, I dare you!".
Without CP running sword and shield especially in PVP is an utter handicap. You lose a lot to try to use a certain playstyle. I understand you shouldn't be able to do a lot of damage with S&S but your shield should give more than a measly 100-300 armor over a defending dual wield, or way less vs a 2-hander.
I also understand it is very useful for blocking, but that isn't the issue here.
Edited by Draevik on October 9, 2020 8:29PM Without CP running sword and shield especially in PVP is an utter handicap. You lose a lot to try to use a certain playstyle. I understand you shouldn't be able to do a lot of damage with S&S but your shield should give more than a measly 100-300 armor over a defending dual wield, or way less vs a 2-hander.
I also understand it is very useful for blocking, but that isn't the issue here.
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hexentb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Aren't Armor and Physical resist technically different stats? They both mitigate damage but are calculated differently right?0
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Dagoth_Rac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It is the 1H and Shield passives that give you survivability, not the shield itself. 36% reduced cost of blocking, 20% extra damage blocked, 14% extra ranged/projectile damage blocked. And simply having one of the 1H&S skills on your bar passively blocks another 10% damage. Basically, the game is designed where you need to actively use the shield and block to gain the damage resistance. You cannot just have a shield equipped. While your baseline stats will not be much different from a defending trait dual wield, you will block much more damage with a shield.2 -
Draevik✭✭✭Dagoth_Rac wrote: »It is the 1H and Shield passives that give you survivability, not the shield itself. 36% reduced cost of blocking, 20% extra damage blocked, 14% extra ranged/projectile damage blocked. And simply having one of the 1H&S skills on your bar passively blocks another 10% damage. Basically, the game is designed where you need to actively use the shield and block to gain the damage resistance. You cannot just have a shield equipped. While your baseline stats will not be much different from a defending trait dual wield, you will block much more damage with a shield.
Yes I understand the merits of blocking passives from 1h/s, this is not the point of the discussion.
The player doesn't need to do anything special to gain the armor granted from a defending offhand dual-wield, or while using a shield.
REGARDLESS of passives, both of the aforementioned items grant armor at all times, yet a shield -- which is exclusively a defensive tool -- is only slightly higher in armor. If you don't see the inherent design flaw with this , thenI suppose I am not explaining myself clearly enough.
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Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sadly this isn't Mordhau where weapons have hitboxes, placing a shield on your back is a viable tactic, and armor actually works.
The shield still offers protection so it's not like it does nothing.Edited by Vevvev on October 10, 2020 8:48PMPC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK1 -
Recapitated✭✭✭✭Dagoth_Rac wrote: »It is the 1H and Shield passives that give you survivability, not the shield itself. 36% reduced cost of blocking, 20% extra damage blocked, 14% extra ranged/projectile damage blocked. And simply having one of the 1H&S skills on your bar passively blocks another 10% damage. Basically, the game is designed where you need to actively use the shield and block to gain the damage resistance. You cannot just have a shield equipped. While your baseline stats will not be much different from a defending trait dual wield, you will block much more damage with a shield.
Yes I understand the merits of blocking passives from 1h/s, this is not the point of the discussion.
The player doesn't need to do anything special to gain the armor granted from a defending offhand dual-wield, or while using a shield.
REGARDLESS of passives, both of the aforementioned items grant armor at all times, yet a shield -- which is exclusively a defensive tool -- is only slightly higher in armor. If you don't see the inherent design flaw with this , thenI suppose I am not explaining myself clearly enough.
It's a roleplay flaw, the game mechanics are fine1 -
AweBiTr✭✭It pisses me off too! I'm waiting for a one-handed staff to be added in the game so that mages can wear a shield!0