ESO will Continue! Exactly as it was...

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"I want to take this moment to reassure the entire Elder Scrolls Online community that ESO will continue to be supported exactly as it was,"

This is actually more depressing than reassuring given that most players are not happy with the current buggy and badly balanced state of the game.

I would have been far happier to hear "ESO Will continue better than it was"
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  • Raideen
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    My fear as well.
  • zaria
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    An toast for ESO
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  • Tandor
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    Some players are unhappy certainly, not sure where you get the evidence to support the claim that most are. Most PvPers in Cyrodiil? Sure, but what proportion of the playerbase is that? Overland, everywhere I go on PC EU and NA is busy, and the Steam figures are still very healthy. I'd say most players are happily active in the game, not complaining on the forum or even in zone chat etc.
    Edited by Tandor on October 6, 2020 10:39PM
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    Considering the sale to Microsoft won't go through until next year and so the same people are still in charge now they're hardly going to put up an announcement saying "We've been doing a terrible job maintaining this game and we're leaving it in a total mess, but we're sure the new owners will do better!"

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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Some players are unhappy certainly, not sure where you get the evidence to support the claim that most are. Most PvPers in Cyrodiil? Sure, but what proportion of the playerbase is that? Overland, everywhere I go on PC EU and NA is busy, and the Steam figures are still very healthy. I'd say most players are happily active in the game, not complaining on the forum or even in zone chat etc.

    Here's another agree ...

    Edited by Taleof2Cities on October 6, 2020 10:50PM
  • holden_caulfield
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    dazee wrote: »
    "I want to take this moment to reassure the entire Elder Scrolls Online community that ESO will continue to be supported exactly as it was,"

    This is actually more depressing than reassuring given that most players are not happy with the current buggy and badly balanced state of the game.

    I would have been far happier to hear "ESO Will continue better than it was"

    Most player? Again this game has million's of players. Can you pls let us know how many people you have spoken to?
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    To be fair, the game is running much better now than any time over the last 2 years. I'm getting no crashes or freezes in Cyrodiil, which used to happen very regularly (so much so, I pretty much stopped playing for a bit). It's still laggy in the busy campaign (Greymoor) but its fine in the quieter one (Blackreach) and no lag in overland zones etc.

    So it seems they finally fixed the major performance issues. So long as we don't have reoccurrence its all good.
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    Shardaxx wrote: »
    To be fair, the game is running much better now than any time over the last 2 years. I'm getting no crashes or freezes in Cyrodiil, which used to happen very regularly (so much so, I pretty much stopped playing for a bit). It's still laggy in the busy campaign (Greymoor) but its fine in the quieter one (Blackreach) and no lag in overland zones etc.

    So it seems they finally fixed the major performance issues. So long as we don't have reoccurrence its all good.

    Is your server based in Narnia? Cos the PvP on EU is ridiculously bad. Not even early access quality... To call it rubbish would be an insult unwanted *** everywhere 😂

    I haven't walked on my weapon for a while, but I would rather have that than my character being completely unplayable.
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    Is your server based in Narnia? Cos the PvP on EU is ridiculously bad. Not even early access quality... To call it rubbish would be an insult unwanted *** everywhere 😂

    I haven't walked on my weapon for a while, but I would rather have that than my character being completely unplayable.

    EU cyro is bad
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    dazee wrote: »
    "I want to take this moment to reassure the entire Elder Scrolls Online community that ESO will continue to be supported exactly as it was,"

    This is actually more depressing than reassuring

    You're reading too much into the "exactly as it was" part.
    He obviously just meant that they aren't going to decrease support because of the change-over.

    I think people take the jaded thing a little too far sometimes.
    Edited by Grizzbeorn on October 6, 2020 11:36PM
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    • Tapio75
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      ESO works well and is fin to play most of the time if we count out the problems that come as opinions based on different playstyles and tastes and whether its RP or META or whatever oriented player..

      Just recently played Star Trek Online, and no matter how fun it is to play as well, it is an example of what badly maintained game that is oriented milking money from players is.

      ESO in the other hand, goes just as well as World of Warcraft or any other similar though IF you folks would have been actually willing to pay mothly subs the game would be much better.

      Though i have to confess, that i AM worried about chapter storylines getting shorter and shorter each chapter... In the time i was barely started Morrowind, i have allready done the whole main story on Greymoor and it only took 4 days of RP oriented slow paced play. Including walking. Then again this is also mostly players fault. Why do great and long stories, when most people dont give any regard to voiceactors and storywriters when they just skip all conversations to get done with wasting time on stories when they can be efficient doing as much as possible in the least time possible. Some playing.
      Edited by Tapio75 on October 6, 2020 11:41PM
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      Tapio75 wrote: »
      ESO works well and is fin to play most of the time if we count out the problems that come as opinions based on different playstyles and tastes and whether its RP or META or whatever oriented player..

      Just recently played Star Trek Online, and no matter how fun it is to play as well, it is an example of what badly maintained game that is oriented milking money from players is.

      ESO in the other hand, goes just as well as World of Warcraft or any other similar though IF you folks would have been actually willing to pay mothly subs the game would be much better.

      Though i have to confess, that i AM worried about chapter storylines getting shorter and shorter each chapter... In the time i was barely started Morrowind, i have allready done the whole main story on Greymoor and it only took 4 days of RP oriented slow paced play. Including walking. Then again this is also mostly players fault. Why do great and long stories, when most people dont give any regard to voiceactors and storywriters when they just skip all conversations to get done with wasting time on stories when they can be efficient doing as much as possible in the least time possible. Some playing.

      I paid a monthly sub for 5 years. I didn't stop subbing until about a year ago when it became so obvious customers were not getting the full, true story about performance issues.
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      The amount of bugs still rivals near abandonware games like Champions Online, if I see them serious about fixing those and not nerfing everything into mediocre sameness, I may change my mind.
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      Tandor wrote: »
      Some players are unhappy certainly, not sure where you get the evidence to support the claim that most are. Most PvPers in Cyrodiil? Sure, but what proportion of the playerbase is that? Overland, everywhere I go on PC EU and NA is busy, and the Steam figures are still very healthy. I'd say most players are happily active in the game, not complaining on the forum or even in zone chat etc.

      I agree. It is so easy to say most players think X without anything to back it up. The reality is, players might be upset about specific things but overall they like the game. The proof for my comment is they are playing this game.

      I guess the real question is, if you are not happy with this game why are you playing it?

      @dazee please shed some light on why you are playing this game if you are so unhappy with it?
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      I'm unhappy with a lot of it and that is what I most bring up since that is what needs fixing.

      Doesn't mean I think ESO is without its own unique merits. ESO does a lot of modern great things it should keep doing, instead of caving to the vet trial crowd who want the best gear to be vet trial only, and who push for ESO to be more and more like vanilla style model MMOs like FF14 and WoW.

      FF14 and WOW do that stuff much better than ESO ever can, ESO's strength was never about hardcore raiding, and it needs to play to its own strengths of being casual friendly (that does NOT mean not challenging at times) and easy to set up a character the way YOU want it to be.

      When a narrow meta for each classes stam and mag setups is head and shoulders better than everything else we have a major issue. Why are we able to pick our own builds and skills if were expected to do it certain ways only for endgame content? No point, might as well do like FF14 and have more classes but each one locked in a specific role, skillset, and playstyle.

      ESO does best when it's more like elder scrolls less like WoW. that is true regardless of ESO launching more MMOey, since it vastly improved when One Tamriel came out, moving it away from that style. without One Tamriel, ESO would not be around today, it would have closed years ago.

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      I'd prefer it get fixed.
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      dazee wrote: »
      The amount of bugs still rivals near abandonware games like Champions Online, if I see them serious about fixing those and not nerfing everything into mediocre sameness, I may change my mind.

      So this is a doomthread.
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      So this is a doomthread.

      it's not a doom thread without Doom, if you want it to be a Doom thread we need this:
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      Edited by dazee on October 7, 2020 1:31AM
      Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.
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      Since ESO is an existing game it will still be supported and expanded upon across all platforms. If they got rid of PVP you would see 80% of complaints about the game disappear. I played PVP for a bit and it was insane. I understand what drives people to whine and complain so much on here about the game. The performance and the gear and ability imbalances turns people so negative. I saw it happening to myself so I stepped back over to the pve side where the things are much smoother, balanced, light hearted and humorous. And it's here where I'll stay.
      Edited by volkeswagon on October 7, 2020 1:42AM
    • Hapexamendios
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      Since ESO is an existing game it will still be supported and expanded upon across all platforms. If they got rid of PVP you would see 80% of complaints about the game disappear. I played PVP for a bit and it was insane. I understand what drives people to whine and complain so much on here about the game. The performance and the gear and ability imbalances turns people so negative. I saw it happening to myself so I stepped back over to the pve side where the things are much smoother, balanced, light hearted and humorous. And it's here where I'll stay.

      Can't stand PvP myself, but I don't think that it needs to be written off completely. I would like to see PvP & PVE balanced separately. They have tried doing them together and failed miserably. We know it's possible and there really is no good reason not to.
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      Tapio75 wrote: »
      Then again this is also mostly players fault. Why do great and long stories, when most people dont give any regard to voiceactors and storywriters when they just skip all conversations to get done with wasting time on stories when they can be efficient doing as much as possible in the least time possible. Some playing.
      So you blame speedrunners for the poor scenario quality? Well, maybe some stuff like diplomatic Reachmen (oh sorry, Reachfolk) or matriarchal Western Skyrim are really appears due to the inattention and indifference of audience to the content, but I don't think that the simple following for real TES atmosphere was broken because of those who don't cares about this universe.
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      Can't stand PvP myself, but I don't think that it needs to be written off completely. I would like to see PvP & PVE balanced separately. They have tried doing them together and failed miserably. We know it's possible and there really is no good reason not to.

      Explain to me how they have failed miserably at balancing both together. From my perspective they have done an excellent job at balancing PvP and PvE over recent times, and next patch we will see the current outliers in stamcro and stamden reined in quite a bit, whilst having next to no effect in PvE.
      Believe it or not, but the game is more balanced than it ever was.
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      I'm pretty sure what is meant by that is that any future plans already made will not change. That they're not gonna come in and just redo everything. The game isn't going to stay exactly how it is on this day..If that can be understood.
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      Tandor wrote: »
      Some players are unhappy certainly, not sure where you get the evidence to support the claim that most are. Most PvPers in Cyrodiil? Sure, but what proportion of the playerbase is that? Overland, everywhere I go on PC EU and NA is busy, and the Steam figures are still very healthy. I'd say most players are happily active in the game, not complaining on the forum or even in zone chat etc.

      Well the people you are playing with might be perfectly happy with the game and that might be true for a lot of players who just want to quest and do other overland stuff (and that is perfectly fine).

      When i look at the people im usually playing with though, it looks pretty bad.
      Nearly all of the people i use to play with complain several times every day about the lag, mainly in pvp (i mean there is even lag in pve at this point) and lots of players on my friends list and in my guilds have already stopped playing regularly (or stopped playing at all), simply because with that much lag and bad balancing the game is just not fun very often, its pretty sad when someone who used to play the game daily now logs on maybe once every 2 weeks if at all.

      And yes i still play the game, that is because i really like the game and have spend a lot of time on it, but with the current way the game is lagging, even with the current AOE tests, it is really becoming less fun.
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