DK PVP

Lovenest

What would people recommend for a DK PVP for a newb player? Stam DK or Mag DK? Any links appreciated with simple bursts explained properly.

BohnT2

Logging out, creating a stamnecro and enjoying being on a much better class

rrimöykk

Anything but DK. Dead class in pve and Cyro, does okay in bgs.

Orchish

Get your self a Stam nightblade,warden or necro. StamDK is behind the pack right now.

MurderMostFoul

DK is still good in BGs, from yesterday:

AuraStorm43

Make a Defile Tank cuz thats what DK does best right now, they hit like a wet noodle

Sergykid

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

DK is still good in BGs, from yesterday:
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but you don't actually play the DK, you play the 2H executioner and maybe bow poison injection, paired with proc sets.
Even tho DK is good in pvp, it's not the class that it's strong, especially compared to the other classes.

rrimöykk wrote: »

Anything but DK. Dead class in pve and Cyro, does okay in bgs.

dead in pve? i thought they're the best tanks for trials. Or even dungeons for the buffs they give or solo survivability.

MurderMostFoul

Sergykid wrote: »

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MurderMostFoul wrote: »

DK is still good in BGs, from yesterday:
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but you don't actually play the DK, you play the 2H executioner and maybe bow poison injection, paired with proc sets.
Even tho DK is good in pvp, it's not the class that it's strong, especially compared to the other classes.

I don't run any direct damage proc sets. The only 2H damage skill I run is executioner. Of my 12 skill slots, 5 are class skills, 3 are weapon skills. I'd say that qualifies as "actually plays the DK."

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Naysayers aside, here are my two cents. Are DKs the strongest in PVP right now, no, but they are perfectly viable if played well. If you want to play a DK as a DK, go magic. You are going to use far more of the class toolkit. They do make for very sturdy tanks. While I wouldn't suggest going all in on a pure tank in PVP (unless you really want to, but honestly, what's the point), play to it as a strength. If you want to have the most powerful offensive DK you can, while still being very sturdy, go stamina and think proc sets. You wont use a ton of the DK toolkit, but a well played stam DK can hang with the best of them They can hit hard and take a beating.

https://dottzgaming.com/build/magicka-dragonknight-pvp-build-eso-enduring-flame/

Dottz generally puts out good beginner friendly builds for PVP. I have had success with them over the years, but of course, always make it your own. I haven't run that exact build, but the bars look pretty typical for a mag DK. Good a place to start as any.

https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-dragonknight-burst-build-pvp/

Alcast is also worth checking out (I think he does better with PVE).

You will notice front bars are very similar. Back bar depends on how you build. If you want to go heavy armor, I would back bar a S+B similar to the first one. If you want to go light armor (you will hit harder, but be more glassy), you probably want to go with a back bar resto.

To jump on the meta bandwagon for a bit. I think the two strongest specs right now are stam warden and Necro. Stam is generally stronger than magic in the current meta and well, lets be honest, those are the buy to play classes. I think the easiest class for a noob to start playing PVP and feel powerful is actually a mag sorc. They leave something to be desired head to head against the aforementioned classes, but they are straight forward to learn and play.

Canned_Apples

Dottz doesn’t even play this game anymore. He got tired of these redacted devs.

If you want to play a mag DK and be a “pro” you’ll have to buy the $50 expansion for the p2w ring, and stack procs.
Grothdaar overwhelming flame blossom.
It’s a very boring play style but it’s how @ZOS_BrianWheeler and @ZOS_Gilliam want you to play.
No skill. All procs.
I don’t think there’s been a single patch where they didn’t redacted the game.
Shame they never listen to the players.

Wing

here are my tips as a stam DK main since beta.

roll a stam warden, necro, or NB

some will argue DK is not that bad, some are wrong. its like being in a race with less horse power and slightly worse tires. sure your not THAT bad, but your still going to be in last every time, and everyone else just has a better time while you struggle to keep up.

roll something else, and just have fun, anything DK can run, the aforementioned classes can do better, dont make it hard on yourself just for the sake of it.

cheers.

Recapitated

StamDK feels barely different from more powerful stam classes. No real reason to play it except for Leap, and that's not even much better than DBOS

joseayalac

Haven't played other classes in a while besides Magden but I always have monstrously good results with my Stam DK in BGs, went 29/2 on a macth yesterday and was the best player on my team for like 10 straight matches.

No, I don't play proc sets, I don't have the time to adjust my build every patch.

I think DK is in a good spot rn because healing got reduced so DOTs apply way more pressure now. Ofc my opinion will differ from people that haven't mastered the DK class.

DTStormfox

I used this build for StamDK for a long time.
https://lmclan.weebly.com/home/venomwalker-stamina-dragonknight-pvp-build

However, StamDK currently excels as a DOT medium armour build the most, IMO.
I would suggest:

Head: Blood Spawn, heavy, impenetrable, prismatic enchant.
Shoulder: Blood Spawn, heavy, impenetrable, stamina enchant.

Chest & Legs: Venomous Smite, medium, reinforced, prismatic enchant.
Hands: Venomous Smite, medium, impenetrable, stamina enchant.
Waist & Feet: Sheer Venom, medium, impenetrable, stamina enchant.

All jewellery: Sheer Venom, robust, weapon damage enchants or stamina recovery enchants.

Weapon 1: Venomous Smite, two-handed battle-axe, charged, disease enchant.
Weapon 2: Bow of the Potentates, powered, weapon damage enchant
(I prefer to use the Escapists Poison, or a double dot poison, instead of the enchant effect on the weapon 2 bar)

So, 2x Blood Spawn, 5x Venomous Smite, 5x Sheer Venom, & 1x Bow of the Potentates.
Optionally, you could replace the Bow of the Potentates with a Master's Bow, or any other bow of your liking.

hakan

nah they are good. dont listen to the naysayers, typical forum drama.

rrimöykk

joseayalac wrote: »

Haven't played other classes in a while besides Magden but I always have monstrously good results with my Stam DK in BGs, went 29/2 on a macth yesterday and was the best player on my team for like 10 straight matches.

No, I don't play proc sets, I don't have the time to adjust my build every patch.

I think DK is in a good spot rn because healing got reduced so DOTs apply way more pressure now. Ofc my opinion will differ from people that haven't mastered the DK class.

You are actually correct. DK is good in bgs. Sad part is... that's it. It's a good-ish tank, horrible stam dps in pve, decent mag dps in pve with worst sustain of all classes and bad in Cyro.

Dots don't apply pressure at all as they are purgeable. Abd do less dmg than proc sets. And dk healing just got a big nerf in pts.

oscarovegren

StamDK would be in a great spot if it wasnt for all the proc DoTs the class has no counter against.

oscarovegren

Here is my suggestion

2H/bow (medium)
titanborn/unleashed front
sheer venom back
mala
trainee
bloodspawn

2H/SnB (heavy)
Titanborn/unleashed front
Crimson twilight back
mala
trainee
bloodspawn

2H/SnB (heavy zergbuster with corrosive armor)
Master 2H front
Arkasis and clever alchemist back (4pc front of each). 2 infused potion speed glyphs on jewelry
Bloodspawn