Shade needs a buff

Ariades_swe

Horrible skill for defense.
Streak is way better.

Metemsycosis

Did you get XD

mikey_reach

I rather they fix them rather than change them. With streak sometimes you wont even go anywhere when casted. And with shade sometimes the ability will double cast itself.

Fawn4287

I can’t believe nightblade player on the forums, it is by far the easiest class to solo PvP on, its actually frustrating to see a class that literally has the most powerful burst combo be complained about. It has been indirectly buffed with shadow mundas change, is the only class to benifit from half the vamp passives, huge impen nerfs coupled with the changes to bow which gives more huge crit damage boosts and huge crit resist nerfs.

Shade offers minor maim that reapplies every 3 seconds so it can’t be cleansed, procs necropotence and can’t be killed. It also can be dropped anywhere and ported back to. if you think streak is much better and thats the defensive option you want go and play a sorc.

pauld1_ESO

Fawn4287 wrote: »

I can’t believe nightblade player on the forums, it is by far the easiest class to solo PvP on, its actually frustrating to see a class that literally has the most powerful burst combo be complained about. It has been indirectly buffed with shadow mundas change, is the only class to benifit from half the vamp passives, huge impen nerfs coupled with the changes to bow which gives more huge crit damage boosts and huge crit resist nerfs.

Shade offers minor maim that reapplies every 3 seconds so it can’t be cleansed, procs necropotence and can’t be killed. It also can be dropped anywhere and ported back to. if you think streak is much better and thats the defensive option you want go and play a sorc.

THe funny thing here is streak being labeled a defensive option but the majority of players I see use it for full-up offense first, defensive only if they want to run away. More powerful as an offensive ability though.

But no, shade doesn't need a buff.

Ariades_swe

Fawn4287 wrote: »

I can’t believe nightblade player on the forums, it is by far the easiest class to solo PvP on, its actually frustrating to see a class that literally has the most powerful burst combo be complained about. It has been indirectly buffed with shadow mundas change, is the only class to benifit from half the vamp passives, huge impen nerfs coupled with the changes to bow which gives more huge crit damage boosts and huge crit resist nerfs.

Shade offers minor maim that reapplies every 3 seconds so it can’t be cleansed, procs necropotence and can’t be killed. It also can be dropped anywhere and ported back to. if you think streak is much better and thats the defensive option you want go and play a sorc.

Agreed. Stamnbs by far the best soloclass in the game atm and shade is the best defensive skill in the game.

SHOW

Shade is a wonderful concept but has issues.

The one that irks me the most is all attacks follow you after shade... Doesn't make sense.

If rolling on the ground 2 meters will dodge every attack, then so should instantly vanishing 20 meters away to the other side of a wall lol

I've literally had Snipe arrows stop mid-flight, turn 180 degrees around, then hit me through a wall. C'mon man.

Shade need a Ball of Lightning effect (streak certainly does not).

Make that trade. Give up maim if u have to, it never made sense anyway on shade anyway as a tool to evade multiple attackers, what is maim on one random zergling doing when there are still 24 others running u down lol

techyeshic

No. Pretty sure they could just straight up give up maim and it still would be used by any decent NB. It is a fine tool as is

SHOW

SHOW wrote: »

Shade is a wonderful concept but has issues.

The one that irks me the most is all attacks follow you after shade... Doesn't make sense.

If rolling on the ground 2 meters will dodge every attack, then so should instantly vanishing 20 meters away to the other side of a wall lol

I've literally had Snipe arrows stop mid-flight, turn 180 degrees around, then hit me through a wall. C'mon man.

Shade need a Ball of Lightning effect (streak certainly does not).

Make that trade. Give up maim if u have to, it never made sense anyway on shade anyway as a tool to evade multiple attackers, what is maim on one random zergling doing when there are still 24 others running u down lol

Hi @techyeshic

I don't understand, do you find a flaw in the logic above? Genuinely curious.

Why would we not seek logical improvements to our game?

Thanks for the honest feedback.

techyeshic

SHOW wrote: »

SHOW wrote: »

Shade is a wonderful concept but has issues.

The one that irks me the most is all attacks follow you after shade... Doesn't make sense.

If rolling on the ground 2 meters will dodge every attack, then so should instantly vanishing 20 meters away to the other side of a wall lol

I've literally had Snipe arrows stop mid-flight, turn 180 degrees around, then hit me through a wall. C'mon man.

Shade need a Ball of Lightning effect (streak certainly does not).

Make that trade. Give up maim if u have to, it never made sense anyway on shade anyway as a tool to evade multiple attackers, what is maim on one random zergling doing when there are still 24 others running u down lol

Hi @techyeshic

I don't understand, do you find a flaw in the logic above? Genuinely curious.

Why would we not seek logical improvements to our game?

Thanks for the honest feedback.

It would make no sense to have projectiles follow you; I agree. But that happens when a lot of NBs snipe targets and they go around corners as well. It does not equate to needing a Ball of Lightning mechanic though.

NBs over the years could have used a lot of things. Something that makes them more evasive is certainly not one of them. In fact; their evasive nature is what has historically kept them weaker in a face to face fight as they have that advantage.

SHOW

It would be much cooler if, when u shade you swap places with the shade, so that people are beating on the shade for a sec before they realize. Emphasis on the shade, not the shader!

The trade-off being that they would know 100% that u shaded instead of thinking u are just cloaked in the area, which is giving up a powerful confusion tool in itself.

I think that's a fun and fair trade-off.

Side Note / Fun Fact: I guarantee u many of the "nerf cloak" threads over the years were actually due to this cloak vs shade confusion. Someone disappears (shade), they spam aoe thinking cloak, can't find, then yell on the forums that cloak is op. which we all know, cloak is poo poo for a million reasons. Shade is the true defining NB skill. It is almost where is should be too, I think the above change could complete it.

Thoughts?

erio

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Horrible skill for defense.
Streak is way better.

I prefer shade over cloak. Streak cant go through walls or up/down

Lord-Otto

Power budget, guys.
NBs, especially stam, are in an extremely good spot now that they have the damage they should have as an assassin class. A buff to defensive skills will now inevitably lead to a nerf to offensive ones. Do you really want that? I don't. I believe NBs should hit hard.