Favorite Self Healing Sets

TonyDemonLord

This is a repost of a poll I had made before. A bunch of people had complained about there not being enough options so I have added more and an “Other” option. This discussion is meant for in a PVE scenario and no specified roles, so any role. Here you vote on your preferred 5pc Self Healing set, not monster sets.

Below is a list of all the sets listed in this poll. The list would be way too big if I provided all the stats so I just put the links instead.
Leeching Plates
https://eso-sets.com/set/leeching-plate

Crimson Twilight
https://eso-sets.com/set/crimson-twilight

Bahrahas Curse
https://eso-sets.com/set/bahrahas-curse

Resilient Yokeda
https://eso-sets.com/set/defending-warrior

Winter’s Respite
https://eso-sets.com/set/winters-respite

Hiti’s Hearth
https://eso-sets.com/set/hitis-hearth

Crest of Cyrodiil
https://eso-sets.com/set/crest-of-cyrodiil

Almalexia’s Mercy
https://eso-sets.com/set/almalexias-mercy

Battalion Defender
https://eso-sets.com/set/battalion-defender

Edit: Specified Self healing sets. Also couldn’t add more then ten polls so I can’t add all those other sets.

OmniDo

Other: List name in comment below

Both Hiti's and Winter's Respite.

Astrid

Other: List name in comment below

Hollowfang 🤤

tmbrinks

Other: List name in comment below

Literally only run 1 of those sets (Hiti's) and then only in very specific situations.

Olo/SPC/Worm/Hollowfang/Jorvuld's/Hircines/Ebon/PFG/MS all get worn more by my healer.

the1andonlyskwex

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

zvavi

Other: List name in comment below

Olorime, hollowfang, symphony, sentinel, spell power cure, worm's, Hircine's, z'en, martial.
I might have missed some, but non on the list anyway.

newtinmpls

Other: List name in comment below

My preferred version of "healer setup" is Sanctuary, Spell Power Cure and Chokethorne. I've used this well in vet content with Templar, Warden, Necromancer and NB. I like the combo.

Second best would be on a Warden; Hiti's, Winter's Respite and Chokethorne. Warden's have a lot of "surface" stuff to throw down, so it procs pretty reliably.

My favorite "non vet, hybrid fun with Warden" is Lamia, Sanctuary and Chokethorne. Combining the Lamia boost with the Warden Forest is really a blast. For that matter if I'm going full hybrid, Lamia's and the Bear Ulti (it fires a LOT).

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

I do use Leeching Plate on Tanks.

EDIT: Oh, crap, re-read the title and had completely missed the "SELF healing part". Oh well, egg on my face.

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caperb

Battalion Defender

I use some of these sets (on my tank acutally), but only Hiti's is a healer set in my opinion.

BlackRaidho

Almalexia’s Mercy

Almalexia's is known as a bad heal set, but this one help me a lot to unlock Chaos Guardian achievement in BGs.
Always in my heart Almalexia

Hapexamendios

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

His original poll was self healing sets iirc.

Grandchamp1989

Leeching Plates

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

The lines between what qualifies for what role have seems to be more and more of a grey area.

When I run 3dd 1t as tank I bring AOE healing for the group with things like Winter's Respite, might even backbar a resto staff with Olorime or SPC to take on both tank and healer role, in dungeon's where I can manage to multitask both.

Same in some Trials you can find Tanks with medium armor DPS sets such as Alkosh and you might even see healers sporting Ebon, if they they can't fit more onto the tank - even though it's a traditional tank set.

I also believe a lot of Solo players are fond of Leeching for the extra survivability, with passive damage, while in group content it is seen as selfish and doesn't benefit the group.

It's all blurred out there lol.

Jaraal

Hapexamendios wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

His original poll was self healing sets iirc.

Don't overlook Nocturnal's Favor. Great set for Bosmer, or other roly-poly types. Heals around 2k per second when you roll dodge.

Cirantille

Other: List name in comment below

Hollowfang

the1andonlyskwex

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

The lines between what qualifies for what role have seems to be more and more of a grey area.

When I run 3dd 1t as tank I bring AOE healing for the group with things like Winter's Respite, might even backbar a resto staff with Olorime or SPC to take on both tank and healer role, in dungeon's where I can manage to multitask both.

Same in some Trials you can find Tanks with medium armor DPS sets such as Alkosh and you might even see healers sporting Ebon, if they they can't fit more onto the tank - even though it's a traditional tank set.

I also believe a lot of Solo players are fond of Leeching for the extra survivability, with passive damage, while in group content it is seen as selfish and doesn't benefit the group.

It's all blurred out there lol.

It's not this blurred. Most of these sets only provide self-healing, which is completely useless for actual healing. A bunch of them are also heavy armor, which isn't really good for healing either.

It's one thing for tanks and healers to swap support sets, or for either one to wear a support set that buffs group DPS. It's a totally other thing for a healer to wear a set that only provides self-healing.

You could make an argument for a healer to wear a set that provides a damage shield or extra health or armor if they need extra survivability (mostly for PuGs or PvP), but extra self-healing like these sets provide isn't all that helpful, especially when these sets also tend to significantly reduce your group healing by providing extra health and healing taken instead of role-relevant stats. A healer that needs more self-healing will benefit more by increasing their healing output to the whole group than they will from most of these sets.

Grandchamp1989

Leeching Plates

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

The lines between what qualifies for what role have seems to be more and more of a grey area.

When I run 3dd 1t as tank I bring AOE healing for the group with things like Winter's Respite, might even backbar a resto staff with Olorime or SPC to take on both tank and healer role, in dungeon's where I can manage to multitask both.

Same in some Trials you can find Tanks with medium armor DPS sets such as Alkosh and you might even see healers sporting Ebon, if they they can't fit more onto the tank - even though it's a traditional tank set.

I also believe a lot of Solo players are fond of Leeching for the extra survivability, with passive damage, while in group content it is seen as selfish and doesn't benefit the group.

It's all blurred out there lol.

It's not this blurred. Most of these sets only provide self-healing, which is completely useless for actual healing. A bunch of them are also heavy armor, which isn't really good for healing either.

It's one thing for tanks and healers to swap support sets, or for either one to wear a support set that buffs group DPS. It's a totally other thing for a healer to wear a set that only provides self-healing.

You could make an argument for a healer to wear a set that provides a damage shield or extra health or armor if they need extra survivability (mostly for PuGs or PvP), but extra self-healing like these sets provide isn't all that helpful, especially when these sets also tend to significantly reduce your group healing by providing extra health and healing taken instead of role-relevant stats. A healer that needs more self-healing will benefit more by increasing their healing output to the whole group than they will from most of these sets.

As I stated purely self healing sets are seen as selfish and not too common in group content much less so in pre-made groups.
More than half of the sets listed do provide some form of AOE heal, and they do indeed switch between the support roles depending of the goal and group setup. Selfish sets such as self healing gear are mostly used by beginners and solo players in my experience.

the1andonlyskwex

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

The lines between what qualifies for what role have seems to be more and more of a grey area.

When I run 3dd 1t as tank I bring AOE healing for the group with things like Winter's Respite, might even backbar a resto staff with Olorime or SPC to take on both tank and healer role, in dungeon's where I can manage to multitask both.

Same in some Trials you can find Tanks with medium armor DPS sets such as Alkosh and you might even see healers sporting Ebon, if they they can't fit more onto the tank - even though it's a traditional tank set.

I also believe a lot of Solo players are fond of Leeching for the extra survivability, with passive damage, while in group content it is seen as selfish and doesn't benefit the group.

It's all blurred out there lol.

It's not this blurred. Most of these sets only provide self-healing, which is completely useless for actual healing. A bunch of them are also heavy armor, which isn't really good for healing either.

It's one thing for tanks and healers to swap support sets, or for either one to wear a support set that buffs group DPS. It's a totally other thing for a healer to wear a set that only provides self-healing.

You could make an argument for a healer to wear a set that provides a damage shield or extra health or armor if they need extra survivability (mostly for PuGs or PvP), but extra self-healing like these sets provide isn't all that helpful, especially when these sets also tend to significantly reduce your group healing by providing extra health and healing taken instead of role-relevant stats. A healer that needs more self-healing will benefit more by increasing their healing output to the whole group than they will from most of these sets.

As I stated purely self healing sets are seen as selfish and not too common in group content much less so in pre-made groups.
More than half of the sets listed do provide some form of AOE heal, and they do indeed switch between the support roles depending of the goal and group setup. Selfish sets such as self healing gear are mostly used by beginners and solo players in my experience.

5 of 9 only provide self-healing, and 4 of those are heavy armor. None of those 5 are what I would call "healing sets", except in the most literal (and least useful) sense that they do heal somebody.

Only 2 of the remaining 4, Winter's Respite and Hiti's Hearth, have any real value for PvE healers.

The last 2, Almalexia's Mercy and Battalion Defender, are somewhat interesting because they might be useful for PvP healing, where a healer can expect to be taking or blocking a fair amount of damage, but in PvE (which is what the OP specifically asked about), a healer shouldn't be getting hit or blocking enough to reliably trigger their heals (or to significantly benefit from their 2-4 piece bonuses, or the fact that Battalion Defender is heavy armor).

In summary, the title of this poll is terribly misleading. The OP is really asking about self-healing tank sets, and based on the list provided, they don't really care much about the fact that some of them also provide a little group healing.

Grandchamp1989

Leeching Plates

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

The lines between what qualifies for what role have seems to be more and more of a grey area.

When I run 3dd 1t as tank I bring AOE healing for the group with things like Winter's Respite, might even backbar a resto staff with Olorime or SPC to take on both tank and healer role, in dungeon's where I can manage to multitask both.

Same in some Trials you can find Tanks with medium armor DPS sets such as Alkosh and you might even see healers sporting Ebon, if they they can't fit more onto the tank - even though it's a traditional tank set.

I also believe a lot of Solo players are fond of Leeching for the extra survivability, with passive damage, while in group content it is seen as selfish and doesn't benefit the group.

It's all blurred out there lol.

It's not this blurred. Most of these sets only provide self-healing, which is completely useless for actual healing. A bunch of them are also heavy armor, which isn't really good for healing either.

It's one thing for tanks and healers to swap support sets, or for either one to wear a support set that buffs group DPS. It's a totally other thing for a healer to wear a set that only provides self-healing.

You could make an argument for a healer to wear a set that provides a damage shield or extra health or armor if they need extra survivability (mostly for PuGs or PvP), but extra self-healing like these sets provide isn't all that helpful, especially when these sets also tend to significantly reduce your group healing by providing extra health and healing taken instead of role-relevant stats. A healer that needs more self-healing will benefit more by increasing their healing output to the whole group than they will from most of these sets.

As I stated purely self healing sets are seen as selfish and not too common in group content much less so in pre-made groups.
More than half of the sets listed do provide some form of AOE heal, and they do indeed switch between the support roles depending of the goal and group setup. Selfish sets such as self healing gear are mostly used by beginners and solo players in my experience.

5 of 9 only provide self-healing, and 4 of those are heavy armor. None of those 5 are what I would call "healing sets", except in the most literal (and least useful) sense that they do heal somebody.

Only 2 of the remaining 4, Winter's Respite and Hiti's Hearth, have any real value for PvE healers.

The last 2, Almalexia's Mercy and Battalion Defender, are somewhat interesting because they might be useful for PvP healing, where a healer can expect to be taking or blocking a fair amount of damage, but in PvE (which is what the OP specifically asked about), a healer shouldn't be getting hit or blocking enough to reliably trigger their heals (or to significantly benefit from their 2-4 piece bonuses, or the fact that Battalion Defender is heavy armor).

In summary, the title of this poll is terribly misleading. The OP is really asking about self-healing tank sets, and based on the list provided, they don't really care much about the fact that some of them also provide a little group healing.

All fair points mate, I get that the poll is somewhat hard to decode.

As for the "it's heavy armor issue", you can literally wear any armor type you like if your wear it as jewelry and weapons. You'll still get the 5 piece bonus, and you can still wear your prefered armor type on your body. It's pretty neat. I rarely wear 2 "heavy armor sets" on my tank - just one.

Jaraal

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

Uh, aren't most/all of these tanking sets, not healing sets?

The lines between what qualifies for what role have seems to be more and more of a grey area.

When I run 3dd 1t as tank I bring AOE healing for the group with things like Winter's Respite, might even backbar a resto staff with Olorime or SPC to take on both tank and healer role, in dungeon's where I can manage to multitask both.

Same in some Trials you can find Tanks with medium armor DPS sets such as Alkosh and you might even see healers sporting Ebon, if they they can't fit more onto the tank - even though it's a traditional tank set.

I also believe a lot of Solo players are fond of Leeching for the extra survivability, with passive damage, while in group content it is seen as selfish and doesn't benefit the group.

It's all blurred out there lol.

It's not this blurred. Most of these sets only provide self-healing, which is completely useless for actual healing. A bunch of them are also heavy armor, which isn't really good for healing either.

It's one thing for tanks and healers to swap support sets, or for either one to wear a support set that buffs group DPS. It's a totally other thing for a healer to wear a set that only provides self-healing.

You could make an argument for a healer to wear a set that provides a damage shield or extra health or armor if they need extra survivability (mostly for PuGs or PvP), but extra self-healing like these sets provide isn't all that helpful, especially when these sets also tend to significantly reduce your group healing by providing extra health and healing taken instead of role-relevant stats. A healer that needs more self-healing will benefit more by increasing their healing output to the whole group than they will from most of these sets.

As I stated purely self healing sets are seen as selfish and not too common in group content much less so in pre-made groups.
More than half of the sets listed do provide some form of AOE heal, and they do indeed switch between the support roles depending of the goal and group setup. Selfish sets such as self healing gear are mostly used by beginners and solo players in my experience.

5 of 9 only provide self-healing, and 4 of those are heavy armor. None of those 5 are what I would call "healing sets", except in the most literal (and least useful) sense that they do heal somebody.

Only 2 of the remaining 4, Winter's Respite and Hiti's Hearth, have any real value for PvE healers.

The last 2, Almalexia's Mercy and Battalion Defender, are somewhat interesting because they might be useful for PvP healing, where a healer can expect to be taking or blocking a fair amount of damage, but in PvE (which is what the OP specifically asked about), a healer shouldn't be getting hit or blocking enough to reliably trigger their heals (or to significantly benefit from their 2-4 piece bonuses, or the fact that Battalion Defender is heavy armor).

In summary, the title of this poll is terribly misleading. The OP is really asking about self-healing tank sets, and based on the list provided, they don't really care much about the fact that some of them also provide a little group healing.

All fair points mate, I get that the poll is somewhat hard to decode.

As for the "it's heavy armor issue", you can literally wear any armor type you like if your wear it as jewelry and weapons. You'll still get the 5 piece bonus, and you can still wear your prefered armor type on your body. It's pretty neat. I rarely wear 2 "heavy armor sets" on my tank - just one.

Plus many folks use the Undaunted Mettle passive and will be wearing one piece of heavy armor regardless.

To say "But it's heavy armor!" is armchair quarterbacking at it's finest.

Scion_of_Yggdrasil

Bahrahas Curse

I have/like winters respite as well, but don't use it as often now that I'm running a stamina build.

Bahraha's Curse I just find so useful without the heal, even. Makes it much easier to keep mobs still in prep for Time Freeze.

TonyDemonLord

Leeching Plates

Edit: Specified Self healing sets. Also couldn’t add more then ten polls so I can’t add all those other sets.

TonyDemonLord

Leeching Plates

I prefer Leeching Plates because it now has almost a 100% uptime now and it provides decent damage and very good healing. The healing multiples the more enemies in the circle radius so that makes you pretty much unkillable with large groups of enemies. It’s also really funny just standing in a group of enemies and watching them die while doing nothing.

AgaTheGreat

Other: List name in comment below

Coldharbour's favourite lol or briarheart

Miszou

Bahrahas Curse

TonyDemonLord wrote: »

I prefer Leeching Plates because it now has almost a 100% uptime now and it provides decent damage and very good healing. The healing multiples the more enemies in the circle radius so that makes you pretty much unkillable with large groups of enemies. It’s also really funny just standing in a group of enemies and watching them die while doing nothing.

I use Bahrahas on my tank, but I always see people talking about Leeching Plate. On paper they look almost identical except Bahrahas has a slow on it as well, so why do so many people recommend Leeching over Bahrahas?

TonyDemonLord

Leeching Plates

@Miszou

Bahrahas Curse
Any weight
(2 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina, Reduces your damage taken from environmental traps by 40%.
(5 items) When you deal damage, you have a 25% chance to create desecrated ground for 5 seconds, which reduces the Movement Speed of enemies within 3.5 meters by 60%, damages them for 960 Magic Damage every 1 second, and heals you for 100% of the damage done. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.

Leeching Plates
Heavy only
(2 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) When you take damage, you summon a cloud of leeching poison under the assailant. The cloud deals 1180 Poison Damage every 1 second for 5 seconds and heals you for 100% of the damage caused. A cloud can be created once every 5 seconds.

Leeching Plate pros
1.5 Bigger radius
100% proc chance
4% healing taken
Bonus 1206 maximum health
220 extra damage

Bahrahas Curse pros
1096 bonus stamina and magicka
40% less environment damage
60% less enemy movement speed
All weights

It more depends on your preference but to me leeching plates sounds better. Also I use only the jewelry and weapon to get around the heavy weight.

TonyDemonLord

Leeching Plates

For the people who have leeching plates, do you know if the healing from the set procs Earthgore or nightflame? I have leeching plates but not the monster sets to test and I wanted to find out before grinding to get them.

TwinLamps

Crest of Cyrodiil

Pretty sure it aint best but its the one I used the most while it was one of better defensive backbar sets for PvP

Major_Lag

Bahrahas Curse

I use Bahraha's on my solo petsorc and it's very good for that purpose.
With all the AoE damage being dealt left and right, it reliably procs pretty much on cooldown anyway, despite the nominal 25% proc chance.

In the past it used to be quite powerful, as there was no cooldown and multiple desecrated grounds could be created at the same time.
At some point in the last year this was nerfed (only 1 proc active at a time), but it's still quite decent despite the nerf.

And then there was also the convenience factor of using a common overland set vs a BoP dungeon set (Leeching Plate). Especially since the latter is only available in heavy, and for light armor build you have to farm the weapons and jewelry (ugh).

Athan1

Other: List name in comment below

This thread is about self-healing sets, i.e. tanking or solo sets, not healer sets.

I find Mother Ciannait quite useful. It doesn't heal per se but it prevents the need to self heal.

Jaraal

Miszou wrote: »

TonyDemonLord wrote: »

I prefer Leeching Plates because it now has almost a 100% uptime now and it provides decent damage and very good healing. The healing multiples the more enemies in the circle radius so that makes you pretty much unkillable with large groups of enemies. It’s also really funny just standing in a group of enemies and watching them die while doing nothing.

I use Bahrahas on my tank, but I always see people talking about Leeching Plate. On paper they look almost identical except Bahrahas has a slow on it as well, so why do so many people recommend Leeching over Bahrahas?

Bahraha's is pretty worthless in PvP because the giant target it drops on the ground is easy to avoid/roll out of, whereas the Leeching effect is much more subtle.

I'll sometimes run a Bahraha's and Trinimac's Valor combo on a damage shield build. You can pretty much solo most vet dungeons that don't require multi-player mechanics with that setup, although it will take forever because of the low DPS.

One place that Bahraha's really shines is when fighting Limenauruus. The 40% damage reduction on environmental traps helps you survive the falling rocks mechanic a lot better.

Jaraal

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

Coldharbour's favourite

This set is one of the best for grinding public dungeons. As long as you damage a pack of 6 trash mobs before they damage you, the bomber guar will spawn in the middle of them and blow up half their HP (or more) in one shot.

pod88kk

Other: List name in comment below

Troll king