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Aetheric Cipher/Aetherial Dust drops
Stinkyremy
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Has anyone ever figured out the rng of these drops?
I know the cypher comes from any base game enemy and dust from any base game node, has anyone managed to do research on drop rates or information on maximising chances other than kill and farm everything?
I know the cypher comes from any base game enemy and dust from any base game node, has anyone managed to do research on drop rates or information on maximising chances other than kill and farm everything?
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Very, very imprecise measurement here: when I was farming the starter zones for enough raw mats to sell for roughly 1 mil a week, I got a Dust probably once every other week.
My only cipher was from an anniversary event reward. I still have it sitting in my inventory.
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Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »My only cipher was from an anniversary event reward. I still have it sitting in my inventory.
Explain please, what event was dropping cyphers!????0 -
Mike0987✭✭✭Been playing since release on PS4. Now have 10x CP1100+ characters and 3 low level. I do ALOT (about 16-24 hours a week or better) of running around base areas farming mats, collecting skyshards, questing, ect... for my 10 crafters. Have only ever gotten 9 dust, 0 ciphers. Hope that helps put perspective on drop rate.
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Pretty sure its the anniversary event.Stinkyremy wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »My only cipher was from an anniversary event reward. I still have it sitting in my inventory.
Explain please, what event was dropping cyphers!????
Grinding just make you go in circles.
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Pretty sure its the anniversary event.Stinkyremy wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »My only cipher was from an anniversary event reward. I still have it sitting in my inventory.
Explain please, what event was dropping cyphers!????
Pretty sure its the anniversary event.Stinkyremy wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »My only cipher was from an anniversary event reward. I still have it sitting in my inventory.
Explain please, what event was dropping cyphers!????
Yes it was. Last year. Ive got one too. Prices were really "dull" back then because of that.2 -
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Pretty sure its the anniversary event.Stinkyremy wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »My only cipher was from an anniversary event reward. I still have it sitting in my inventory.
Explain please, what event was dropping cyphers!????
Damn it!
You know I gave the game up because there was no content for me to do. Now I have got back into it because there is lots of content for me to do, and after getting back in I find myself getting annoyed that I have missed all the content when it came out, these events as well and I usually dislike timed events in games.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Since Morrowind got around 10 dusts from nodes and 2 cipher pieces through the events.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »My only cipher was from an anniversary event reward. I still have it sitting in my inventory.
Explain please, what event was dropping cyphers!????
Yeah, it was a rare reward from the Anniversary Event loot boxes.0 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭colossalvoids wrote: »Since Morrowind got around 10 dusts from nodes and 2 cipher pieces through the events.
I started this thread because I am wondering why I have never even found any dust. WHile I don't farm like heck now but when I started and while I was levelling and questing for 6 months+ I literally would never run past any node except water because I get my water from urns
I suppose I could try and spend an 8 hours once a week purely farming lol0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Stinkyremy wrote: »colossalvoids wrote: »Since Morrowind got around 10 dusts from nodes and 2 cipher pieces through the events.
I started this thread because I am wondering why I have never even found any dust. WHile I don't farm like heck now but when I started and while I was levelling and questing for 6 months+ I literally would never run past any node except water because I get my water from urns
I suppose I could try and spend an 8 hours once a week purely farming lol
Wasn't farming actually, just picked all the nodes that were around really. It's pretty random, know people playing since beta and getting just a couple throughout the years.0 -
joerginger✭✭✭✭✭Same here, I also spent a long time farming everything myself. I very occasionally found a dust, but the only cipher I ever got was from a reward box in this year's anniversary event.0
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✭I have a horrifying amount of time played, in the realm of 6000 hours on my main alone (cp1230) and have never dropped a cipher, maybe a dozen or so dusts, never a cipher. And basically all I do is run around gathering and dungeons and overland farming.0 -
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✭Not sure if true but I think using cipher increase your chance to get dust. Since I used cipher I have more dust drops then before. 3 years without cipher, one dust. But one year after I found out 3. But it might be just a coincidence
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Surak73✭✭✭✭✭I have been playing since launch on PS4. I don't intentionally farm resources, but I do collect any node I come across. In four years, I found 1 dust, 0 cipher... On the other side, I see an AWFUL LOT of dust/potions at guilds' traders, so I suppose there is some blessed spot where you can find many of them. Something like this happened in the first year with motifs of Ancient Elf and Daedric Styles: they were thery very very rare everywhere, except in a castle of Rivenspire (then it was Cadwell Gold for my Aldmeri character), where you could find one of them every third or fourth time.0 -
Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭Czekoludek wrote: »Not sure if true but I think using cipher increase your chance to get dust. Since I used cipher I have more dust drops then before. 3 years without cipher, one dust. But one year after I found out 3. But it might be just a coincidence
Sounds logical tbh. Though I think the intention is for a trade based around it. As it is now the xp buff is redundant as most of the year we have xp buffs from events.0 -
ayu_fever✭✭✭✭✭i had 2 ciphers drop back in 2017.
made a few million gold from selling those 👍🏼PS4 NA
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✭I got 2 dust from Rivenspire nodes years ago, other than that I had one in this year's Jubilee boxes and maybe got one other from idk where. That's it. Never seen a Cipher.x-TallyCat-x // PC EU DC - For the Covenant! // ESO Platinum trophy - 16th May 2017.
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✭✭✭✭✭I've never had either drop. I got one Cipher and three dusts from the 2018 Anniversary event, and nothing since from anywhere - and every character I play harvests every node they run across.0 -
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✭✭✭I only got cypher on PS4 EU, my main account,, from a random mob while leveling my NB tank. I've found aehterial dust much more often, on every server I play.
By the comments, we can all agree that the drop ratio of cypher is way lower than aetherial dust."Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2500 CP
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✭Stinkyremy wrote: »colossalvoids wrote: »Since Morrowind got around 10 dusts from nodes and 2 cipher pieces through the events.
I started this thread because I am wondering why I have never even found any dust. WHile I don't farm like heck now but when I started and while I was levelling and questing for 6 months+ I literally would never run past any node except water because I get my water from urns
I suppose I could try and spend an 8 hours once a week purely farming lol
8 hous of farming for a 100k dust...that is 12.5k per hour. 20 min to do 6 writs on 6 toons, results in well over min 7/8k per too avg with tempers,writs and everything else on a bad day. That is 48k in 20 min.
Do the math what is better. Farming for dust or doing anything else to make gold in same amount of time.Urban.Monk
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Pretty sure its the anniversary event.Stinkyremy wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »My only cipher was from an anniversary event reward. I still have it sitting in my inventory.
Explain please, what event was dropping cyphers!????
Also have one in my house storage box not learnt. Got a gold offer once and passed. Now it’s not selling that high, and I don’t need the gold either.
Haven’t ran thru over the hundreds of xp scrolls daily rewards so don’t need to learn it either. Just a collectible item now.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Very, very imprecise measurement here: when I was farming the starter zones for enough raw mats to sell for roughly 1 mil a week, I got a Dust probably once every other week.
My only cipher was from an anniversary event reward. I still have it sitting in my inventory.
Ha! Same, I got one not last event but the one before from doing a bazillion writs a day. Still in the bank over a year later. Don't know why I havent gobbled it up, certainly not going to sell it.
I can count the number of dusts I have seen outside the same event on one hand, and I probably wouldn't need all my fingers. I dont really farm mats though, outside of surveys. Not sure if I have ever heard of one of them dropping from survey nodes.
I did see a buddy pull the recipe from a random mob in (I think) fungal or one of the older dungeons about 2 years ago.
In terms of specifically farming for dust, it makes absolutely no sense. The drop rate is minuscule. It's more of a rare bonus once in a while. If you need dust, farm gold and buy one (maybe you get lucky along the way).Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on September 17, 2020 3:55PM1 -
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✭✭✭I think the ridiculously low drop rates for these are set at the highest ZOS corporate level.
Just a guess but if you were around when the loot crate XP scrolls first arrived you'd know what I mean 0
