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Mag vs Stam Sets

Zer0_CooL
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Swamp Rider:

2 items: Adds 833 Weapon Critical
3 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
4 items: Adds 129 Weapon Damage
5 items: Adds 600 Weapon Damage to your Poison and Disease Damage abilities.


Netchs Touch:

(2 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(5 items) Adds 400 Spell Damage to your Shock Damage abilities.


Silk of the Sun:

(2 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(5 items) Adds 400 Spell Damage to your Flame Damage abilities.


Why do stamina sets grant 50% more damage than compareable magica sets? Can someone explain the reason for this drastic difference?
  • colossalvoids
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    Have nothing to do with stam/mag, like automaton's 400 wpd to physical damage it's about skills availability for certain classes. You can go full physical, same with shock and flame for some classes.
  • Everest_Lionheart
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    Don’t overlook war maiden. 5pc adds 600dmg to magic abilities.

    Still these sets are all very niche sets because to get the most out of them you’ll need to build heavy towards those type of skills that they are boosting.
  • Everest_Lionheart
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    You’ve also left out Elemental Succession which despite the nerfs this patch adds 492 damage to each element and each element can be up at the same time.

    Now this is also a niche set best used with force shock (deals damage for all 3 elements) and paired with Ilambris monster set (procs off flame and shock damage) but used properly can dish out some big damage.
  • Zer0_CooL
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    @Everest_Lionheart

    I left Elemental Succession out because its a proc and grants a bonus to 3 Elements. So its not directly compareable.

    But the explanation regarding the aviable sources of each element sound reasonable to me.
  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    How many poison and disease skills are there? LA for mag is elemental based. Classes are fully flame or mostly lightning.

    Look at the distribution of skills not just that stam or mag can do the type of damage.
    -Immortal Redeemer-
    -Extinguisher of Flames-
    -Gryphon Heart-
    -Potato-



    If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling....
  • Zer0_CooL
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    Zer0_CooL wrote: »
    @Everest_Lionheart

    I left Elemental Succession out because its a proc and grants a bonus to 3 Elements. So its not directly compareable.

    But the explanation regarding the aviable sources of each element sound reasonable to me.


  • Idinuse
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    Zer0_CooL wrote: »
    Swamp Rider:

    2 items: Adds 833 Weapon Critical
    3 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    4 items: Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    5 items: Adds 600 Weapon Damage to your Poison and Disease Damage abilities.


    Netchs Touch:

    (2 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
    (4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (5 items) Adds 400 Spell Damage to your Shock Damage abilities.


    Silk of the Sun:

    (2 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
    (4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
    (5 items) Adds 400 Spell Damage to your Flame Damage abilities.


    Why do stamina sets grant 50% more damage than compareable magica sets? Can someone explain the reason for this drastic difference?

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  • katorga
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    The sets that could buff light/heavy attacks, physical, fire, lightning, frost, stayed at 400. All the others went to 600.

    I could be really, really wrong, but I don't think Sword Dancer and Sword Singer (600 to DW or 2H "abilities") buff light/heavy damage with those weapons. So they went up to 600.
  • Vetixio
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    Its been the Elder Stamina Online for years now, each update Stamina gets new op sets nothing new here unfortunately :tired_face:
    Pìerre - Breton Vampire Templar, Grand Overlord. Erádàn - Bosmer Templar, Warlord. Vyríc - Imperial Vampire Necromancer, Centurion. Sybìl - Breton Sorcerer, Centurion. Erìch - Nord Vampire Nightblade, Corporal. Njàll - Nord Templar, Lieutenant. Elánnà - Bosmer Warden, Veteran. Laquì - Redguard Vampire Nightblade, Corporal. Noveni Dres - Dunmer Sorcerer, Lieutenant. Marìnus - Imperial Warden, Veteran. Arvyn Indoril - Dunmer Templar, Sergeant. Rósalyn - Breton Sorcerer, Corporal. Emelîn - Bosmer Dragonknight, Corporal. Astaroth Indoril - Dunmer Sorcerer.
  • nesakinter
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    Damage type sets that affected LA/HA is 400 wp dmg. Damage type sets that DON'T AFFECT LA/HA is 600 wp dmg
  • YandereGirlfriend
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    nesakinter wrote: »
    Damage type sets that affected LA/HA is 400 wp dmg. Damage type sets that DON'T AFFECT LA/HA is 600 wp dmg

    This is correct but it's also a foolish and arbitrary decision on the part of the devs.

    For example, Netch's Touch wouldn't suddenly become OP if it were bumped up to 600 Spell Damage.
  • Mobius0
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    I thought the Sword Singer/Sword Dancer sets DID add to your LA/HA. In fact in the case of Sword Dancer, I think it adds it to both HA hits.

    I think the reason for poison damage being higher from that set, is likely due to the skills available that it can boost, vs. the other damage types.
  • Kolzki
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    We also have spider cultist that adds 600 spell damage to destruction staff abilities.
  • JohnOfMarkarth
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    Vetixio wrote: »
    Its been the Elder Stamina Online for years now, each update Stamina gets new op sets nothing new here unfortunately :tired_face:

    One small smidget. Relequen... will be usable by m--- i wont say this cus they will "fix" it later if I do.

    --- or is this yet another PvP thread like 80% o' the place

    Additionally damage type accessibility also contributes to damage bonus of the sets. No weapon type does "poison damage" by default thus they dont affect la/ha. Unlike fire and lightnin and so on which are default elements of some la/ha s and a *pinkbunnies*ton of abilities including all destro weps... and many class abilities.

    About sword singer etc? That set eludes my sorry as(--- why is that to be censored too. Whats this? 18+ kindergarden?), so i cant comment
    I can't do this anymore. Every small ... petit change that went against any semblance of sense has snowballed into an avalanche of (Penn & Teller:) Bulls...!

    Gods, bless me with patience.
  • Sahidom
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    Deleted
    Edited by Sahidom on September 21, 2020 5:45AM
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