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Soloing stuff with a NB?

cheriella
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hey guys so i needed a little help, so i thought i’d ask here. i just started out playing eso which i totally love. but i’m having way too much trouble deciding what to play been torn between two classes for about two weeks now lol. i wanted a wood elf nightblade, that’s the only race i love. but how are they for soloing world bosses and the dungeon bosses? that’s what i plan to do, just do story stuff and 100% the maps and there may not be ppl always available to help kill the world bosses hence the solo play.

i’ve been watching guides from hack the minatour the youtuber, and based on his stuff you can solo with a nightblade but it’s challenging. so i’m having doubts of how ‘easy’ it may be and i don’t want doubts lol. so i’ve also made a magicka templar which apparently is easier and more noob friendly, like me, to solo the bosses with. so yeah i’m just torn between these two classes. i don’t wanna reach lvl 200 or something getting my butt kicked and then be like i should’ve stuck with the templar.

so my question is to you experienced NBs how difficult is it to solo world bosses with the nightblade for a noob like me? or should i stick with the magicka templar which is a bit easier?

thanks for the help <3
Edited by cheriella on September 7, 2020 2:48PM
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  • Muizer
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    cheriella wrote: »
    hey guys so i needed a little help, so i thought i’d ask here. i just started out playing eso which i totally love. but i’m having way too much trouble deciding what to play been torn between two classes for about two weeks now lol. i wanted a wood elf nightblade, that’s the only race i love. but how are they for soloing world bosses and the dungeon bosses? that’s what i plan to do, just do story stuff and 100% the maps and there may not be ppl always available to help kill the world bosses hence the solo play.

    i’ve been watching guides from hack the minatour the youtuber, and based on his stuff you can solo with a nightblade but it’s challenging. so i’m having doubts of how ‘easy’ it may be and i don’t want doubts lol. so i’ve also made a magicka templar which apparently is easier and more noob friendly, like me, to solo the bosses with. so yeah i’m just torn between these two classes. i don’t wanna reach lvl 200 or something getting my butt kicked and then be like i should’ve stuck with the templar.

    so my question is how difficult is it to solo world bosses with the nightblade for a noob like me? or should i stick with the magicka templar which is a bit easier?

    thanks for the help <3

    As a new player, don't count on being able to solo even the weakest group content bosses for quite some time to come. The class you pick won't be the decisive factor, that's for sure. You're going to get answers from veteran players who can do all that (and brag about it by telling you it wasn't that hard) but their advice won't help you at the stage you're at. In ESO you have to play the long game, especially as a solo oriented player and agonizingly slowly, the hard content will become slightly easier as you learn to play, and farm better gear.
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  • White wabbit
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    Play what you enjoy ! Any class if played right can do most things in the game but yes some are easier to do the content
  • Everstorm
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    It will depend more on level, amount of champion points and your gear than the class you play.
  • DocFrost72
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    I do nothing but solo, veteran and normal dungeon content. I also love (and play) bosmer.

    Some tips to get you started;
    -vigor is a really, really good option and as of the latest update takes next to no effort to get. Morph to resolving vigor.
    -morph the shadow tree ability veiled strike into surprise attack. It gives you (when you get the passive for it) major resistances. It can also be a handy way to stun a few mobs if you can circle behind them.
    -morph the last ability in the siphoning tree (forget the unmorphed name, sorry) into power extraction. It gives you major brutality, increasing weapon damage. It also weakens any enemy hit by it, which scales really well with trash packs.
    -Don't be afraid to slot shades. They're not bad on damage, and passively apply minor maim (15% damage reduction) to their target. I'd recommend the melee one with an aoe.
    -If you get into real trouble, the morph of the shadow ult called "veil of blades" creates a space that gives you a 30% damage reduction and also harms enemies in it. Perfect for demanding bosses and trash packs alike.

    Have fun, try it out! Every class, and every spec can solo very well. Some are "easier" to learn like sorc, but all can do pretty impressive things.
  • Gundug
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    If you are having trouble with any stamina character in solo play, running a two handed weapon and using the Brawler skill (morph of Cleave) will keep you alive in most situations. The more enemies you hit with the skill, the higher the shield. I have had 20k+ damage shields in fights. It’s effectively like having close to 40k health with a 10-20k instant “heal”.

    If your health hits dangerous levels, use Brawler and that gives you a window to heal up and turn the fight in your favor.
  • vgabor
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    Practice, practice, practice. The determining factor is not the skills you get from your class, every class can solo wbs, but your skills as a player. I would recommend doing some Maelstrom arena which will teach you much about surviving while killing mobs.
  • supersonic_kitten
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    If you'd like to play nightblade class, magblade would be easier for soloing due to powerful class heals over time. But wood elf is more of a stamina race, and while you can indeed go against the grain and play a magicka bosmer, it would be easier for you if you didn't. For a stamina nightblade I would suggest using 2h main bar and bow back bar. The 2h skill line, as others have mentioned, has skills like Brawler and Rally that can help your survivability. Also, as soon as you get to lvl 10, I suggest going to Cyrodiil and doing the introductory quest - this way you get access to Vigor, a powerful stamina heal, and it is going to help you immensely, especially as a new player.
  • Everest_Lionheart
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    I’m new to NB myself only just started a stamblade about a week ago. Now I will admit things are way easier with CP already applied but the one thing I find NB to be lacking is AOE skills when soloing. Look at an easy proc set to farm/buy like Defiler which you can get in Vvardenfell. This set is going to proc a poison AOE every 5 seconds.

    I’m also more of a fan of DW over 2H because the first two skills you have to option to use morphs that return health with bloodthirst and bloodcraze. Bloodthirst is handy because it will also proc that defiler set often giving your virtually 100% uptime. The rapid strikes morph hits harder but bloodthirst is safe until you feel more comfortable. You can always change the morph later.

    DW skill line also has blade cloak which will give you another 25% damage reduction bonus which can be morphed into deadly cloak and deal even more AOE damage. I’m also a fan of using whirling blades (morph of whirlwind) because it also is an AOE comes with an execute. This is best slotted for trash mobs but suitable for most boss fights if your sustain is on point.

    Another set you can look at is Briarheart. This set is going to boost your damage plus heal you when you deal crit damage. I run this one my solo Stamden right now and am looking to farm a second set. Briarheart is insanely expensive at the moment because it’s in demand as of this patch so grab some guild members and go farm Wrothgar for a few hours instead. It will be worth it.

    Vigor is practically a must have for stam toons and survivability. And as mentioned by another post above very easy to get now. There is a massive outcry over rapids right now, but this finally gives stamina PvE toons access to the heals they need early to get access to harder content sooner. Otherwise it was a grind fest. People who need faster horses have other way to get faster. As a new stam toon Before the change all you really had was lifesteal enchants which tanked your weapon damage big time. But I digress...

    Someone mentioned above using the shade. I also highly recommend it. I would also get leeching strikes, this will return health and stamina. With the passives both of these skills last 20 seconds and can be back barred. A quick tip on those skills. Do a quick block/bash cancel after casting them. Their animations are too long. Also bash weaves in melee range will give some extra damage. There is a monster set just for that but it’s hard to get and better suited to group content.

    Speaking of monster sets you have 2 solid options. Selene is the meta but works for single target damage. Velidreth will hit more targets and has a higher proc chance.

    Overall I’m having fun trying to build the NB into a decent solo toon myself even though I hope to one day bring it to vet trials. I’ve found solo play to be a whole lot smoother than parsing so far because solo is more action/reaction where parsing is very mechanical and repetitive and if something doesn’t fire properly it throws off the rhythm and tanks the damage.

    Final point, as your CP goes up if you do decide to got DW you will want to revisit your morphs if you decided to use Bloodthirst/bloodcraze. Eventually you will have enough resistances and critical heals built into your CP and you can go heavier into damage. Your build will always evolve like this. Anyhow good luck with your build.
    Edited by Everest_Lionheart on September 7, 2020 5:05PM
  • Ackwalan
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    Gundug wrote: »
    If you are having trouble with any stamina character in solo play, running a two handed weapon and using the Brawler skill (morph of Cleave) will keep you alive in most situations. The more enemies you hit with the skill, the higher the shield. I have had 20k+ damage shields in fights. It’s effectively like having close to 40k health with a 10-20k instant “heal”.

    If your health hits dangerous levels, use Brawler and that gives you a window to heal up and turn the fight in your favor.

    I was just about to say the same thing. Also, you should hotkey "dodgeroll", NB's don't have a lot of options when it come to defensive skills so shoot and scoot is helpful.
  • cheriella
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    thanks for all the helpful info ... so what i gathered is it might be a bit tricky to heal myself as a nightblade. and also to get this vigor skill asap. and i know i need to be way higher lvl than what i am now too. what’s a shade?

    so if i’m fighting a boss i have to keep hitting him or monsters to get heath back? cus no instant heals?
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  • Jaimeh
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    Solo'ing things as a new player will be difficult for any class, though arguably if you pick up a magicka spec, you'll have an easier time because of shield-- especially if it's magsorc. And with any class, the better you'll get, the more stuff you will be able to solo. I personally thing magNB is good for soloing because it has a lot damage, but also healing and damage mitigation, but it also has cloak (invisibility) which helps with going around unnoticed, if you don't want to engage in combat. All classes have something cool to bring to a solo player (for example, the magma ulti from DKs makes them uniquely able to solo things, like certain dungeon mechanics, that other classes cannot, etc.), so I think ultimately it's more important to enjoy your class. For eg., a lot of people would say sorc is great for soloing (it really is), but if you don't enjoy playing the class, there's no point. For things like world bosses, dolmens, public dungeons, and normal group dungeons any class is fine. For vet group dungeons, being a magicka spec helps. But I have seen stam players soloing normal trial bosses, so after a point, it just depends on the player. That's why, I'd say to best try things out for yourself, see what you like, and focus on learning the game, because when you do, if you find that you don't enjoy your class anymore, or it's difficult to do certain things with it, you always create new characters.
  • Bucky_13
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    cheriella wrote: »
    thanks for all the helpful info ... so what i gathered is it might be a bit tricky to heal myself as a nightblade. and also to get this vigor skill asap. and i know i need to be way higher lvl than what i am now too. what’s a shade?

    so if i’m fighting a boss i have to keep hitting him or monsters to get heath back? cus no instant heals?

    Vigor is a really strong heal, with lots of weapon damage it can heal you A LOT. Combined with leeching strikes and merciless resolve proc you get a solid amount of healing. On top of this, a set like Briarheart is really good for solo and group play and will add some healing. If you use 2h then rally is a solid option for quick heal + major brutality along with vigor.
  • Swordancer
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    All you need is 2H weapon with Brawler Cleave ability morph and Vigor (Alliance War assult tree). Good to have Titanium Cleave set for that to do more damge while shielding. It is also good to have Repelnishing Barrier ultimate (Alliance War support skill tree) for instant shield. You can also use Leeching Plate/Batalion Defender set for quick heal . If you are quick you can use Bone Pirate for stamina restoration to just spam with Brawler and Vigor avoiding hardest hits. Two other sets should be for damage so use some of the best for your nightblade build. Good to have Dual Wield for high damage and just spam with Bloodthirst Flurry morph just to heal yourself by doing damage and use Shrouded Daggers morph of Hidden Blade to interrupt on distance. You can use Relentles Focus morph of Grim Focus (Assasination skill tree) to heal and do damage. Leeching Strike morph of Siphoning Strikes ability (Siphoning skill tree) to restore stamina. Always use potions that restore your health and stamina/magica.

    Using these skills will make you really hard to kill. More mobs means that you gonna be harder to kill. I can easly solo any WB with that.

    This can really help you but you need high CP to solo some bosses.
  • Everest_Lionheart
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    cheriella wrote: »
    thanks for all the helpful info ... so what i gathered is it might be a bit tricky to heal myself as a nightblade. and also to get this vigor skill asap. and i know i need to be way higher lvl than what i am now too. what’s a shade?

    so if i’m fighting a boss i have to keep hitting him or monsters to get heath back? cus no instant heals?

    Shade is the last skill you unlock in the shadow skill line. Vigor would be your burst heal while you are fighting and will return health to you instantly. Any healing skills that you would take from the syphoning Line have a certain length of a time and need to be cast before you start healing. These are more like heal overtime skills. Hey scale like funnel health you’ll just need to cast it on an enemy and it will heal you over time. A skill like leaching strikes requires a two cast it and you actively attack enemies in order to both heal and restore stamina. Sap essence will heal you for more depending on how many enemies you hit so a skill like this is better than fighting large mobs.

    The DW skills I mentioned require you to attack. Briarheart set also requires that you attack to heal. You can also use glyph of absorb health on your weapons which will require you to attack to restore health as well. I prefer anything that heals me while I deal damage, just a personal preference by the way. The 2H brawler shield option is nice, I just don’t like the feel of 2H weapons. 2H probably has other options that someone else can explain better than I can.

    I came to NB from warden which didn’t need Vigor because it’s class heals are so strong. They also buff the group when you use them in combat. Warden also has better in class access to shields/resistances. The downside with warden is you have to build around pets limiting the diversity of the build somewhat. If you can get over using the same exact skills regardless of what content you at running than warden is pretty fun to play, but lack of a real class execute keeps me from running a lot of the vet content. NB has the better tools for endgame DPS, warden has the better solo toolkit. Still all classes can run solo with the right setup.
  • out51d3r
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    Run Briarheart set so it passively heals you as you do damage. Run Brawler skill from the 2h skill line, it puts a shield on you as you do damage. Run Vigor from the alliance war assault skill as an emergency heal. Other than that, pack some good AOE damage.

    That should do the trick, for most things. The overall trick to soloing is doing damage while healing(or shielding) at the same time. You don't want to be actually casting heals very often.

    I used to solo dungeons/world bosses on my stamblade years ago, at much lower CP than I am now. It was fine. These days I do it on my Stamsorc.
    Edited by out51d3r on September 7, 2020 6:21PM
  • Tandor
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    If you'd like to play nightblade class, magblade would be easier for soloing due to powerful class heals over time. But wood elf is more of a stamina race, and while you can indeed go against the grain and play a magicka bosmer, it would be easier for you if you didn't. For a stamina nightblade I would suggest using 2h main bar and bow back bar. The 2h skill line, as others have mentioned, has skills like Brawler and Rally that can help your survivability. Also, as soon as you get to lvl 10, I suggest going to Cyrodiil and doing the introductory quest - this way you get access to Vigor, a powerful stamina heal, and it is going to help you immensely, especially as a new player.

    If you don't like PvP, there's no need to do any to get Vigor. You'll unlock it with the AP points received from the daily login rewards.
  • cheriella
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    thanks all for the info! it's been a great help. i'll bookmark my post so when i get higher lvl and go over all the tips and info again! thanks and i'll proceed with my adventuring now ^^
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  • LadyLethalla
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    A while ago I was able to solo a couple of the Wrothgar WB on my magblade, but last I tried I couldn't. That could have changed with Stonethorn, but then as of last night she's a stamblade again so I need to test it.
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  • supersonic_kitten
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    Tandor wrote: »
    If you'd like to play nightblade class, magblade would be easier for soloing due to powerful class heals over time. But wood elf is more of a stamina race, and while you can indeed go against the grain and play a magicka bosmer, it would be easier for you if you didn't. For a stamina nightblade I would suggest using 2h main bar and bow back bar. The 2h skill line, as others have mentioned, has skills like Brawler and Rally that can help your survivability. Also, as soon as you get to lvl 10, I suggest going to Cyrodiil and doing the introductory quest - this way you get access to Vigor, a powerful stamina heal, and it is going to help you immensely, especially as a new player.

    If you don't like PvP, there's no need to do any to get Vigor. You'll unlock it with the AP points received from the daily login rewards.

    The intro quest doesn't involve any PvP, so it's better to do it as soon as you hit lvl10 than wait around for the login rewards that may or may not come someday.
  • ZaroktheImmortal
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    Honestly the easiest class to solo stuff on I found is Templar just cause you get an ability early on that heals you as it deals damage and it strikes multiple enemies within a good range of you.
  • ZaroktheImmortal
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    It's part of why my Templar became my main cause I used to pretty much just be a solo player and I needed a class I could do this on. Though my Templar has now become a healer as well.
  • SeanBlader
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    Apparently there's a lot of options but I have had fun running a Wood Elf Stamina 1/2 Tank. I don't kill things the fastest I don't tank the best but I'm decently survivable with half stamina and half health, but with a sword and board it's been fun and can solo most of the game, even group open world mobs can be handled if you're careful.
  • Jpk0012
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    With Cleave and the Echoing Vigor(the other is too fast and drains stamina) you should be fine soloing most original WB(might take you 1 or 2 tries on the tougher ones). Wrothgar bosses... yeah, I'm not sure. I have only soloed one and it took forever. I won't be doing that again.

    To find popular overland/crafted set gear I suggest just finding cheap green/blue gear and upgrading with your own crafters. Look at the less traveled places for cheaper prices(the expansion cities and the DLC cities). The place to grab wrothgar delve dailies also has 5 guild merchants and is a good place to find low priced gear. I've found that Mournhold, Daggerfall and Wayrest are way, way overpriced.
  • Kosef
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    Bro...

    Magplar....all the way to CP160 Then you can alt a nightblade if you want a second character.

    You can literally kill everything as you level and even solo public dungeons as a magplar. Once you get to cp160 just farm you a set of mother's sorrow gear in Deshaan. Get a guildie to make you some julianos and you will be good.

    Oh and don't worry about the gear sets I told you about until you get to CP160. The blue leveling gear you get from quest will get you all the way to cp160.

    There literally is no easier class, that can do most content and is noob friendly than magplar. Stabbity Stabbity Stabbity.
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  • Kosef
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    If you have to do night blade..then yeah 2h brawler/vigor.
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  • Rureczka
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    Magblade is both quite easy and fun way to play content solo.
    When I started playing the game I went a hybrid stamina/magicka(don't judge me, I was just a noob) and while leveling I could solo most of the World Bosses I encountered.
    Later on I went full magblade and so far I've cleared most non-dlc dungeons on veteran mode and dlc dungeons on normal, plus some bosses of dlc ones on vet including entire vWGT all on my own.
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