How do you sustain on your mag sorcerer? :(

Gulnagel

So I'll admit Iv'e been playing it to safe with the "easy sorc" build and figuered I'll try something new, the ordinary meta rotation alot like alcast magsorc build.

But I now try to parse on the 3 mil dummy with the following:
Race: Breton
CP:810 (almost the same allocation as alcast, but i put a bit more in thaumaturge)
All gear and weapons golded, jewelery purple.
Zaan helm and shoulders (medium and heavy, divine trait)
Mothers sorrow bodypieces(all divine)
Burning spellweave jewelery (2 blood thirsty and 1 arcane, with 2 spelldamage enchants and 1 mag recovery enchant)
Burning spellweave inferno staff frontbar(precise, flamedamage enchant)
Perfected maelstrom inferno backbar(infused with spelldamage enchant)
Food: witchmothers potent brew
Potion: spell power potions
Mundus stone: shadow


Rotation:
I buff up with chaneled acceleration before fight.
Then the usual LA>AOE>LA>AOE>Barswap>LA>Force pulse x6 and crystal frag on proc instead of forcepulse.
I also activate twilight tormentor above 50% replace a force pulse. And refresh acceleration. You get the drill, the alcast rotation pretty much.

I'm sitting at the following stats when all buffed:
36k magica
71%crit
2800 spelldamage
1856 magica recovery

But I can't sustain on the 3 mil dummy with out doing a few HA here and there.

Please help, I need further assistance.

Moloch1514

Try a Pet Sorc HA rotation with Mothers Sorrow, Necropotence, Maw of Infernal.....easy sustain and DPS

Lord-Otto

Difficult to sustain these days. False-God's helps a lot, but you're mostly crutching on your healer for support. With synergies, sustain sets and Elemental Drain, your sustain issues should go away. For extreme cases you could also consider Dark Conversion or Spell Symmetry, but I'd rather save the slot.

FinrodMacBeorn

For dummy training and parses, it's ok to use dummy food (for mag: Ghastly Eye Bowl) which helps. If that is not sufficient, you can include elementary drain into your rotation.

VaxtinTheWolf

Not class specific but; Group support.

Templar Shards synergy, or Undaunted Orb synergy restoring nearly 4k of your higher max resource. Undaunted passive restoring additional resources for every synergy used. Minor Magickasteal providing 300 Magicka each second when dealing damage to the enemy. Potions and Major Recovery buff. Other supporting gear sets that may restore resources.

mairwen85

Try the trial dummy. If using the 3 or 6mil, you have to include ele drain in your rotation and throw a heavy here or there.

Taunky

If you're not using a Trial Dummy, it's going to be difficult as that dummy gives resource sustain. Put on Ghastly Eye-Bowl and wear False Gods and make sure to keep your Spell Power Potions on cooldown. (I've managed to parse 80k on a trial dummy with Siroria)

kargen27

"How do you sustain on your mag sorcerer?"

I don't sprint between crafting stations.

Most the guilds I have been in don't mind if you bring a friend along to keep elemental drain up for you while you whack the dummy. They don't want you getting any other help though.

LashanW

Like others said, you should use parse food (Ghastly Eye Bowl) when parsing and elemental drain if you are not using the 21m raid dummy.

For my own high dps magSorc (90k+ on raid dummy), even that stuff is not enough on a 3m/6m dummy. I have to use spell symmetry. OP might not need it tho, considering they are Breton and have 1 mag recovery enchantment on jewelry.

Using barbed trap instead of channeled acceleration will also help with magicka sustain.

Lisutaris

Usually you get orbs, magicka drain, symphony of blades, hollowfang and/or worm cult from your healer.
(Maybe also from your tank)

I would/do not change my build to "bad support" and just add some heavy attacks here and there if needed. *shrug*

EDIT: As for the 3mil dummy ... You dont need and don't want to sustain that. --> go to the trial dummy and use parse food (max stat + regen). If your sustain is fine it will also be good in grp fights with decent support.

siddique

For parsing, especially on the 3mil dummy, use elemental drain. And use barbed trap instead of channeled acceleration.

With Breton you shouldn't have any sustain issues. Make sure you aren't overcasting skills.

Grianasteri

Well, remember that in real content you should have a healer buffing you with juicy extra mag, & you should be taking the group synergies some of which will also return mag.

Try parsing on the 21m dummy, which gives you shards. Sustain issues should largely disappear.

Its a real pain compared to a 3m parse due to the additional time and frankly I think they should release a "trial dummy" with 3 and 6m health so everyone isnt wasting 5 - 10 mins of their time with each parse.

gatekeeper13

If you have sustain problems, use False God Devotion set.

And don't spam skills before their duration is over.

zvavi

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

If you have sustain problems, use False God Devotion set.

And don't spam skills before their duration is over.

What if I couldn't sustain with false god's

Olupajmibanan

zvavi wrote: »

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

If you have sustain problems, use False God Devotion set.

And don't spam skills before their duration is over.

What if I couldn't sustain with false god's

Try frags as spammable. That's a sustain blessing if you aren't one of those min maxers that mind the 1k dps loss in comparisn with Force Pulse.

lolo_01b16_ESO

In a real raid scenario you get a big part of the magicka you use from sources that aren't there on the dummy:
- minor magicka steal
- synergies (Orbs/Shards and the Undaunted Command passive)
- support sets (Hollowfang, Worm, Symphony, ...)
- Spell absorbtion passive (when you take elemental damage)

I'm pretty sure none of the builds we use in our raids could sustain on the 3m/6m dummy without help from others or major build changes.

Gulnagel

Okey thank you all for your input, it helps alot, you are all awesome 🙂

CaptainVenom

Elemental Drain or Spirit Siphon, Restore Magicka potions, Some heavy attacks between your rotations.

If you don't mind pausing your damage briefly, Dark Conversion. It heals magicka over time, too. If you aren't a min-maxer, it shouldn't be a big deal.

EDIT: You can use a Restoration Staff on your back bar. Paired with Tenacity CP and Lv2 Cycle of Life Passive, you should be able to restore a lot of Magicka from a heavy attack.

ssewallb14_ESO

Since Morrowind sustain has been more of a group effort and that's reflected in the "meta" builds you find from people like Alcast. That's why most people parse on the trial dummy.

That's one advantage of easy sorc and heavy attack builds in general, you can sustain the full rotation forever with no support, so you won't lose any DPS in those pugs where the tank and healer aren't providing any support.

linuxlady

Was just about to say healing staff back bar but someone beat me to it