Nothing good has come from this patch...

relentless_turnip

At least for me. if it has been fun for you I am truly happy for you, but please don't derail my miserable thread.

- Performance is still terrible, worse outside of cyrodill.
- proc set meta is horrible and I can no longer escape terrible performance in battlegrounds.

This is my two point statement... please discuss!

Swordancer

In my opinion this is one of the best patches. Yes there are few wierd changes, like nerfs for sets that suck already but this is one of the best patches becouse it works. It not only works right after release date unlike a few previous ones (character load screen) but also it provides some nerfs and buff in the right place. Lags I belive are never gonna be fixed especially in Cyrodiil where some actions on the server side are the only way to avoid cheatiing so I do not expect PvP to be playable at all.

Servers quality is dictated by the players. As long as they can mentally endure the lags and play anyway, quality of PvP will never change. It is unprofitable to pay more for maintaining servers if the players are playing anyway. More processing power require more money and also other server locations talking to eachother for better response time in other countries which are further from the central servers location.

Elsonso

I am not a big fan of the dungeon DLCs. The DLC dungeons are really cool, but I enjoy the base game dungeons.

Aside from the problem with Trials, which they have said they are working on, I find this Update to be pretty good. Pathing in housing is pretty awesome.

On top of that, the %#&@^# short loading screens in Cyrodiil are gone for me, so now when I am in there, I don't have a load screen halting me.

ChaosWotan

All in all, I actually like this patch, though the bad 120-250 ping in Cyro, with a one sec delay in duel combat, is very disappointing. But even that has dropped now from mostly above 200 to usually between 130-160 ping. Will therefore reluctantly say that this patch is a keeper

Athan1

Only buffs I noticed: SPC, BSW, Plague Doctor. Everything else was guttered.

Elsonso

ChaosWotan wrote: »

All in all, I actually like this patch, though the bad 120-250 ping in Cyro, with a one sec delay in duel combat, is very disappointing. But even that has dropped now from mostly above 200 to usually between 130-160 ping. Will therefore reluctantly say that this patch is a keeper

Right now, it looks like my game-reported Latency is around 10% lower. I was not expecting this from patch notes, so I am not sure it is due to a change in Stonethorn.

dinokstrunz

The only slight glimmer spark of decency from this patch is Stone Gardens dungeon and even that is plagued with lag and bugs. Stonethorn is without one of the most buggiest unplayable patches so far in this games journey.

PvP is unplayable 90% of the time

Trials and dungeons constantly lag out

Castle Thorn has to be one of the most copy & pasted dungeons I've ever seen and the rewards are just copy and paste trash

Proc sets in PvP are too annoying to deal with and they're everywhere

Healing nerf from several patches ago made it stupidly hard to deal with all this proc and dot damage since

Wonky and broken animations on various gap closers, terrible coding resulting in position desyncs and being unable to land melee hits even though I'm right on top of the target (sometimes happens in PvE too) makes melee abilities super frustrating to use

Overall Stonethorn is a disaster of a patch and doesn't even attempt to remedy any of the games growing mountain of problems.

richo262

dinokstrunz wrote: »

The only slight glimmer spark of decency from this patch is Stone Gardens dungeon and even that is plagued with lag and bugs. Stonethorn is without one of the most buggiest unplayable patches so far in this games journey.

PvP is unplayable 90% of the time

Trials and dungeons constantly lag out

Castle Thorn has to be one of the most copy & pasted dungeons I've ever seen and the rewards are just copy and paste trash

Proc sets in PvP are too annoying to deal with and they're everywhere

Healing nerf from several patches ago made it stupidly hard to deal with all this proc and dot damage since

Wonky and broken animations on various gap closers, terrible coding resulting in position desyncs and being unable to land melee hits even though I'm right on top of the target (sometimes happens in PvE too) makes melee abilities super frustrating to use

Overall Stonethorn is a disaster of a patch and doesn't even attempt to remedy any of the games growing mountain of problems.

But at least it took your mind off the pre-existing bugs? right?

Athan1

dinokstrunz wrote: »

Overall Stonethorn is a disaster of a patch and doesn't even attempt to remedy any of the games growing mountain of problems.

Flashy new (bugged) content > base game fixes of year-long glitches and imbalance

barney2525

I haven't gone through every change, but I started a new sorcerer, morphed Dark Magic, and low and behold its Not the same Morph anymore. They took out the stun (which had a casting time) and changed it to an Instant that is now Stamina based attack.

Making it instant - Cool. Making it Stamina based - Huh ? Why? What sense does that make? Was it doing too much damage so they switched the damage pool? It's still a " Magic " attack. Why would it cost Stamina? And it is still the Recommended morph for a Magicka based character.

Was there any logic to this change?

just curious

Narvuntien

The changes to old sets were great.

Gythral

"My wallet is happier, now that I've no incentive to spend money with this company"

May be the one good thing to come out of this for some

YandereGirlfriend

So far this patch is extremely dubious.

Horse Stamina Bug is game-breaking in Cyrodiil (have they even acknowledged that it exists yet?!) and the Proc-pocalypse is truly nigh in non-CP formats. Every low-tier stamBlade (and suddenly everyone is a stamBlade...) is out there spamming Poison Inject from stealth with Venomous Smite paired with Sheer Venom. One or two isn't so bad, but entire raids are out there using this setup.

Not to mention that the performance problems from Cyrodiil seem, even more, to be leaking out into the rest of the game.

barney2525

Its given me another option, which is to say, when I create a character I decide what that character is going to focus on.
Main Quest with Alliance and Fighter and Mage quests?
Elsweyr and all the dragon stuff?
Skyrim and all the vampre/werewolf stuff?
Summerset with all the psijiic stuff?
Antiquities?
Achievements like pathfinder and skyshards?
Do all the preludes - with Tharn, and Lyris, and Sai Sahon before you even meet them in main quest?
Not to mention Wrothgar and Murkmire and Rivenspire and Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood

After a good think on this all, I just go fishing

Can't wait for something new to be added

Kingslayer513

Swordancer wrote: »

In my opinion this is one of the best patches. Yes there are few wierd changes, like nerfs for sets that suck already but this is one of the best patches becouse it works. It not only works right after release date unlike a few previous ones (character load screen) but also it provides some nerfs and buff in the right place. Lags I belive are never gonna be fixed especially in Cyrodiil where some actions on the server side are the only way to avoid cheatiing so I do not expect PvP to be playable at all.

Servers quality is dictated by the players. As long as they can mentally endure the lags and play anyway, quality of PvP will never change. It is unprofitable to pay more for maintaining servers if the players are playing anyway. More processing power require more money and also other server locations talking to eachother for better response time in other countries which are further from the central servers location.

ZOS tried to improve trial performance and accidentally made trial performance so bad that no one can play. Is that what you mean by "it just works"?

barney2525

I got a nice new mouse ... after smashing the previous one through the desk while playing this patch

so that was good

Banana

barney2525 wrote: »

I got a nice new mouse ... after smashing the previous one through the desk while playing this patch

so that was good

I had a keyboard like that back in my VMA days

Sergykid

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

and the Proc-pocalypse is

why did you not call it aprocalypse whyyy