MOUNTS STAMINA

linuxhell
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I don't know if this is a bug or something due to the new patch
The fact is that you can't run with the mount anymore (if you're starting a new character)
If this is something introduced with this latest patch then it was crap because the way it is it is better to run out on foot
The mount's stamina drops absurdly and you cannot run more than 6 seconds with the mount (I know you can train stamina but as I said the way it is lost the sense to use mount if I can run for 6 seconds)
The strange thing is that on the second day that I logged in the first time I used the mount the stamina was "normal" and it took longer to fall but after using it for the second time the mount fell back in 6 seconds
If it's just a bug with me I would like an admin to help me
  • SmukkeHeks
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    It’s something that happened yesterday. The stamina are also wonky on toons.
  • alterami
    alterami
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    Im having this exact same problem. It basically made my mount worthless. Mount runs out of stamina after 6 seconds....and it no longer has my speed upgrades....my character on foot can sprint for about 50 seconds straight....making there literally no reason for me to use a horse anymore. Im already sick of having to go on foot all the time. Takes much longer to go anywhere....but this bug did not seem to affect everyone since people are still riding fast on their mounts. Very frustrating.
  • Guthix_of_the_Green
    This is affecting my new character - main character works fine. I dont understand why 6 seconds is tiring my horse
    " The trees, the earth, the sky, the waters; All play their part upon this land. May Guthix bring you balance. "
  • jaygao79
    jaygao79
    I am having same issue with my characters
  • Makronette
    Makronette
    Soul Shriven
    I keep having this issue, the only ways to fix it are to relog or teleport to another zone, it got old really fast.
  • linuxhell
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    relogging here doesn’t fix and try to change the zone I haven’t tested
  • dachanchanman1
    dachanchanman1
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    im glad that this isnt only happening to me, but i have all mounts upgraded on all 11 of my toons, and with the new greymore motifs i wanted to start farming them since drop chances are so low even farming them on 11 toons i might get one within 7 days, but i cant sprint with rapids without running out of horse stam from wayshrine to a harrowstorm. But its fine right? i mean its not like i had a mini heart attack when i only saw 6 mounts instead of like 20, because everyone i know definitely asked for mount categories, welp in zos fashion cant have something new without 5 other things breaking
  • lewis1st
    lewis1st
    Soul Shriven
    I have been having the same issue since the patch and it's getting real annoying. It's faster to run on foot.
  • mac35
    mac35
    Soul Shriven
    Has this issue been acknowledged or confirmed by the devs? It's absolutely infuriating to have fully upgraded mounts running out of stamina after <15 seconds, a lowbie char of my with no points in mount stam will run out of sprint after FIVE seconds. It's absurd.
  • runningtings
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    This is happening to me sometimes too, can we have an acknowledgement @ZOS_GinaBruno that this is being looked at please?
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  • cnyanes
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    Same thing happenning to me although only on my alts, not on my main character. Maybe due to the fact that my alts haven't maxed out their riding stamina yet? Dunno, just a wild guess here. It certainly is a pain to run out of stamina in 5 or 6 seconds.
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  • Arizona
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    Can confirm the same issue.

    Sometime the mount stam goes down really fast and next time it works as known before patch. Please look at it.
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  • Kishashi_Ronai
    Kishashi_Ronai
    Soul Shriven
    I have also run into this issue. At first, I thought it was the fact I started a new toon, but when I logged into my main, she was having the exact same issues. Suddenly Mounts are losing stamina in a matter of seconds, making them practically useless. Is this going to be fixed or is this something we need to just suck it up and deal with?
  • linuxhell
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    admin?
  • Kishashi_Ronai
    Kishashi_Ronai
    Soul Shriven
    The part that bugs me the most is the fact I sank a lot of gold into my main's stamina skills for her mounts and now they are practically worthless.
  • etchedpixels
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    Same here. Been ok until today but now broken.

    Even qutting the game doesn't seem to fix it. Bug filed with /bug.
    Too many toons not enough time
  • cyclonus11
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    I noticed this, too. Sometimes it drains really quickly, and other times it's back to normal.
  • Caaraamon
    Caaraamon
    All my characters suffer from annoyingly fast mount stamina drain.
  • diamok
    diamok
    Soul Shriven
    Add me to this list... Did some testing the other day, but everything I thought I learned was thrown out the door the next day.

    Thought at 1st login mount stamina was fine until a load screen, afterward mount stamina would drop from 100% to 0% in 4 seconds. Not true, only one of my characters actually had normal mount stamina on 1st load, all others were bugged with rapid loss.

    Thought bar swapping would remove issue. Not true, non of my characters had any change to mount stamina after bar swapping.

    Thought the issue was effecting character stamina as well...still unsure on this, sometimes it feels like my characters stamina is draining at what feels "normal", other times I feel like after a three or four uses of stamina skills in a fight, I'm just swinging with light attacks and dying. Would really need to dive into checking this to see for sure.

    I'm a fairly new player, no CPs to spend, so couldn't test that, but have read others experienced the same rapid mount stamina loss whether CPs or not.

    Overall, the issue seems to be random, leaving any attempt to do testing at the player level not possible.

    Just fyi, I am a former game designer that has worked on titles such as Asherons Call 1 & 2 and WoW. I have also been heavily involved with Activision and Sony as out sourced quality assurance. For me, the only real way to test this bug, is to be on a separate server setup specifically for testing new features and their functionality with an open client that allows me to make on the fly tweaks to in game modifiers.

    Regardless of all of that, there is certainly an issue with Mount Stamina draining rapidly account wide for me.

    Take care,
  • redgreensunset
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    My Argonian templar now have this consistently, zone change no longer seem to work or only work for a minute or two before happening again.
  • alterami
    alterami
    Soul Shriven
    Did they even acknowledge this bug yet? I'm still having the issue. It really affects the gameplay negatively. takes forever to travel. Has anyone found a more permanent workaround other than logging off in a public dungeon which only lasts a short time?
  • Apox
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    the past few days ive placed points in mount stamina hoping it would stave off this issue, and when its working properly its fine, but still ends up mount stamina fully depletes in around 8 seconds.

    so

    1. mounts stop sprinting after they run out of stamina. who asked for this?

    2. stamina is depleting entirely faster than it should. no bugs, only features in our game

    3. no more rapids because apparently vigor is more important to more people than rapids is and the only solution they could come up with between their combined total of 3 and a half brain cells was to swap rapids and vigor.

    give us rapids back in slot 1 and reduce the cost of vigor to assault 3. assault 3 is still quickly obtainable. do the cyrodiil intro and 1 bg. doesnt even need to be a win.
  • mac35
    mac35
    Soul Shriven
    Still an issue, still unacknowledged from what I'm seeing. Every time I use a wayshrine it's like a lottery to see whether my mount runs out of stam in 10-15 seconds (and then the regen is *terrible* after that) or whether it can go for much much longer as it's always done.
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    Right now, anyone running a vampire and/or any type of stealth armor set that negates or lowers stealth movement costs, can move faster than a rider without rapids. And in the case of vampires with speed stealth sets on (rings, armor, etc), can move a little faster then normal riders with rapids.
    Edited by starlizard70ub17_ESO on September 2, 2020 2:04PM
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  • Kaivalya
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    Sometimes the mount stamina bar goes down at what I guess is the correct rate, but the mount behaves the same way; it stops sprinting within a few seconds, and if you wait a few seconds, you can sprint again, but only briefly, as if a little stamina had regenerated.

    This is 100% persistent for my new character. Sometimes the mount stamina bar reflects what is actually happening, sometimes not, but what is actually happening is always broken. Even with no training, you're not supposed to run out of mount stamina in a few seconds, right? It's been a long time since I had a character not already capped. Some of you have the problem intermittently, or is it what I'm experiencing, that the bar varies but the mount behavior remains broken?

    With sprint set to toggle, when the bar doesn't match the behavior, it's takes an extra step to get the mount to sprint again. This is probably because the game partially thinks that I'm still sprinting, because the bar isn't empty, so it doesn't automatically turn sprint off (even though the mount is no longer sprinting). So I have to hit it twice, once to make that part of the game know that I'm not sprinting, then again to sprint.

    Probably part of the overall, very long term issues with mount sprinting. The thing with the bar and the behavior not matching very much seems to indicate sloppy programming.

    I saw a post in which this issue was developer tagged. If I find it, I'll repost this comment there too.
  • katanagirl1
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    This has been very painful in Cyrodiil today. I can usually have my mount run nearly halfway across the zone before running out of stamina, but now I can’t make it from a keep to the nearest resource before it runs out.

    Like mentioned above, sometimes the mount stamina bar drains faster than normal when speed slows, other times the bar drains at what seems like normal speed but my mount gets slower and slower.

    Trying to get from one keep to another when it is under attack takes a long time. I let the mount stamina build back up a little so I can sprint again, and repeat that several times while barely moving. This while using rapids as well.
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  • DarkSajuuk
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    I've been noticing this as well. It also worth mentioning that at least for me the War Mount CP passive isn't even working anymore either as my mounts are losing their stamina in like 6 or so seconds even when outside of combat when they shouldn't be losing stamina at all with that passive active unless I'm being chased by an enemy.
  • Apox
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    someone mentioned grabbing the war mount node in the tower CP tree.

    literally not even that works. i have it, i logged into my baby sorc to do my mount training in belkarth, hopped onto my mount, my stamina still drained.

    this is an absolute joke
  • virtus753
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    mac35 wrote: »
    Still an issue, still unacknowledged from what I'm seeing. Every time I use a wayshrine it's like a lottery to see whether my mount runs out of stam in 10-15 seconds (and then the regen is *terrible* after that) or whether it can go for much much longer as it's always done.

    It was acknowledged on August 30:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6932402#Comment_6932402

    There have been a lot of threads on this subject, but they will generally only reply in one. The Dev Tracker is helpful in seeing where a CM/dev has made a comment. (It does not track moderator comments, so it’s more useful than looking for the Z logo next to a thread.)

    As of Gina’s post, they were still investigating the cause of the bug.
  • mac35
    mac35
    Soul Shriven
    virtus753 wrote: »
    mac35 wrote: »
    Still an issue, still unacknowledged from what I'm seeing. Every time I use a wayshrine it's like a lottery to see whether my mount runs out of stam in 10-15 seconds (and then the regen is *terrible* after that) or whether it can go for much much longer as it's always done.

    It was acknowledged on August 30:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6932402#Comment_6932402

    There have been a lot of threads on this subject, but they will generally only reply in one. The Dev Tracker is helpful in seeing where a CM/dev has made a comment. (It does not track moderator comments, so it’s more useful than looking for the Z logo next to a thread.)

    As of Gina’s post, they were still investigating the cause of the bug.

    Thanks. You'd think instead of general discussion it would be confirmed/acknowledged in the forum dedicated to Bug Reports but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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