Mount Stamina

Concrete

Not sure if this should be here, or bug reporting. No one really reads bug reporting anyway, do they?

Anywho.

Since the update/patch, I have noticed that mount stamina in cyro drains 4-5 times faster now than in PvE world. I can only assume that this is an unintended result due to the rapids (so beloved of PvE players) being moved. As it is not mentioned in the patch notes.

Cyro, is big, and when you have to get around when the map is the wrong colour; you need your mount. Unlike PvE world, where there are strategically placed wayshrines, in cyro there arent and when your maxed out mount runs out of stamina 1/4 of the way to your destination, something is wrong.

It would make more sense for mount stamina to drain quicker in PvE world, due to the abundance of wayshrines. True, mat farmers will whine. But, at the end of the day, mat farming isnt really playing the game is it?

bmnoble

Heard a few players talking about this in zone chat in Summerset while doing writs, quite a few were saying their mount stamina pool was depleting in a few seconds and a supposed temporary fix they mentioned was traveling to a wayshrine somehow makes it normal again.

SeaGtGruff

I've noticed the rapidly-depleting mount stamina on my alt characters who haven't trained in mount stamina yet. I just figured it was a deliberate change so that mount stamina lessons actually make a noticeable difference, similar to how mount speed seemed to have been super-nerfed a while back.

My characters who are maxed-out at 60 on mount speed and mount stamina don't seem to have an issue; it's just characters who have very low numbers on either of those two things who can't seem to make their mounts go faster than a leisurely trot or whose mounts seem to get tired very quickly.

Frankly, I've always just run around on foot on my characters, even if they're maxed-out on all three riding lessons-- not that I have anything against mounts; it's just less troublesome to stay on foot instead of constantly dismounting and remounting every 5 seconds to grab a node or loot a sack. Even when I'm doing AvA stuff in Cyrodiil it's almost impossible for me to resist the urge to dismount to grab a node in the middle of riding as fast as possible to whatever destination I'm headed to-- unless I'm being chased by some player who sees me as potential APs, that is!

I'll have to try that wayshrine suggestion to see if it makes a difference.

YandereGirlfriend

This is a legit bug that impacts even fully trained horses.

Hopefully it is hot-fixed ASAP because it is game-breaking in Cyrodiil where quick movement is a necessity.

Workerdroid7

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

This is a legit bug that impacts even fully trained horses.

Hopefully it is hot-fixed ASAP because it is game-breaking in Cyrodiil where quick movement is a necessity.

Absolutely agree... trying to ride from Ash to Aleswell to try and defend the keep when your mount can only sprint for 4 seconds at a time is an exercise in futility. Totally ludicrous.

Edit: 10 seconds after posting this, I put a single point into Stamina for my mount, instead of speed.... and did a quick test sprint while at Northern High Rock.... stamina drain was considerably better, it took 30 seconds to run out of stamina. Not sure if the bug has been fixed, or if a single point into stamina resolves it.

Re-Edit: just logged back into this same toon, and the 4 seconds to deplete all your ^%&Y&ing mount stamina is back. Super fun for Cyrodiil.

doomette

At this point, *I* can sprint longer than my brand new PC characters’ mounts, and that’s saying a lot considering my gym has been closed for months 😐 (can’t wait for my treadmill to get here).

ItsMeToo

Place CPs into the Tree that gives you War Horse Mount at 120 CPs. Problem solved if you are not in combat.

doomette

ItsMeToo wrote: »

Place CPs into the Tree that gives you War Horse Mount at 120 CPs. Problem solved if you are not in combat.

Unless you don’t have 120 CP to spend 😐

Scion_of_Yggdrasil

doomette wrote: »

ItsMeToo wrote: »

Place CPs into the Tree that gives you War Horse Mount at 120 CPs. Problem solved if you are not in combat.

Unless you don’t have 120 CP to spend 😐

Is this bugged too? When I had that perk my stam would always drain in cyro.... out of combat, just in cyro, and my stam would always drain.

SeaGtGruff

Is the bug for fully-mount-trained characters limited to just Cyrodiil? I know the mount's stamina depeletes super-quick in the other zones for characters with low-to-no training in mount stamina, but I just tried riding around on my characters who are fully-trained in mount stamina and as far as I can tell their mounts' stamina depletes at a normal rate. I haven't tried them in Cyrodiil yet to see if there's a difference.

scorpius2k1

The more posts I read, I am seriously thinking they reverted to some updated existing code somewhere around the Summerset Chapter in 2018. Maybe a project to fix performance issues before the "performance plan" was made public. There was a LOT of backlash with all the problems, much like now...so they reverted it. So many of these issues being reported now were being reported around that time too...mount speed, major desync, bugged instances, etc. but they seem even worse now.

Just a hunch imho, but strangely coincidental going through this again.

doomette

Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »

doomette wrote: »

ItsMeToo wrote: »

Place CPs into the Tree that gives you War Horse Mount at 120 CPs. Problem solved if you are not in combat.

Unless you don’t have 120 CP to spend 😐

Is this bugged too? When I had that perk my stam would always drain in cyro.... out of combat, just in cyro, and my stam would always drain.

No, I mean I just started on PC (longtime XBox user) and I literally have no CP. My highest character is 45.

doomette

Also, did I miss any responses from Zos? I checked the dev tracker but didn’t see anything. Because with this and the change to rapids, it makes it seem like a ham-handed attempt to get us to buy crown upgrades. Now I’m sure the stamina thing isn’t (no comment on the rapids), but it isn’t a good look that they haven’t said anything.

Khatou

At last, finally someone who has noticed!

Roll-ups are very expensive since this update, play with a cost like this in PVP no CP, in 2/3 roll you have more stam...

what have stam players done to deserve so much inconvenience?

SeaGtGruff

Okay, I queued into Cyrodiil on a character who's fully-leveled in all riding skills, just to ride around for a bit, and I can't see any difference between stamina cost in Cyrodiil versus the other zones. I guess I never paid attention to it before, because I can't say whether it's depleting faster than usual or not.

On the other hand, I can definitely tell a difference on characters who are not fully-leveled yet.

abzdeman

Still bugged. I'm I shocked? no

Flaaklypa

abzdeman wrote: »

Still bugged. I'm I shocked? no

there is another discussioin going on, where Gina Bruno said they will likely fix it in the next update >.<