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Fun way to solve the Mage's Guild skill point dilemma.
CMDR_Un1k0rn
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When Sheogorath asks you to decide Valaste's fate, get a D20, and roll it. Even number means she stays, odd number means she goes to the Shivering Isles.
Enjoy.
Enjoy.
In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
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✭✭For added fun, if you roll a natural 1 or a natural 20, You now have to roll a D12 with the same rules. If another natural 1/max-value is rolled, keep going down dice size until you hit your D4.In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!2 -
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✭✭In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!6 -
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✭There is no dilemma, I need the skill point and she wants to see the pretty butterflies ...Edited by Hamish999 on August 24, 2020 9:41PMPC-EUDo'Zahra - Khajiit - StamDK - AD
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Ilithyia Ectorius - Imperial - DK Tank -AD
Rosara Laumont - Breton - Warden Healer - AD
Do'Darri - Khajiit - Stam Arcanist - AD
Keyboard and mouse FTW!12 -
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✭✭✭Take the book and run...
No other choice
“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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✭✭✭There's no dilemma. Skill points are abundant, but there's only one Valaste. Sheo can go choke on cheese17 -
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✭✭I never sold her.. and when she comes to her senses, she agrees that it would have been a bad choice
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✭✭✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »When Sheogorath asks you to decide Valaste's fate, get a D20, and roll it. Even number means she stays, odd number means she goes to the Shivering Isles.
Ah, please. Much too complicated. It's easier if you just ask someone from you guild or friends list (or a random person) "Yes or no?" without further info. Works with all life decisions. (The result is not always perfect, but at least you have a result).
Other than that, I sometimes go by the current moon phase, but that only works at night, obviously, if you're too lazy to look at a calendar.
@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
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✭✭i just made the choice of does helping her benefit me?
does dealing with sheogorath benefit me?
3 skill points or nothing.
3 skill points all the way.Edited by dsalter on August 25, 2020 12:08PMPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
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✭✭✭✭✭i just made the choice of does helping her benefit me?
does dealing with sheogorath benefit me?
Do you make all your decisions based on potential benefits?
@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
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You will be surprised, you too make your decisions that way, when you choose to save her you benefit staying in your "goody" shoes...1 -
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✭How about this, roll a D20 *once*... If the sum is under 20 she goes to the shivering isles, if it's over 20 she stays
enjoy your 2 skill points. Athan Atticus Imperial Templar of Shezarr0 -
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✭There is no dilemma.
-crafting
-psijic order
-antiquarian system
-4 weapon skill lines
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✭✭✭✭✭On a D20 if you roll a 15-20 take the points, 9-14 give up the points, 3-8 delete your character, 1-2 delete your account.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."2 -
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You will be surprised, you too make your decisions that way, when you choose to save her you benefit staying in your "goody" shoes...
realistically she was wanted by a daedric lord, he'll get his way one way or another, figured him having her under his wing he'll give her a cozy place to do what she wants, get bored, move on and leave her in said cozy place like he does with every other spiteful addition to the shivvering isles.
he would have made her cozy because it would have annoyed sir nord mega mage but not really a mage angry.
i get 3 skill points, she gets freedom from her own stressful world and sheo is a happy uncle, everyone but nordy winsEdited by dsalter on August 27, 2020 8:37AMPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
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✭✭Needless to say, this thread was mostly made for fun. Still a funny idea IMO.
That and it flew under the radar in Rascals.
In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!0 -
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✭✭✭What are the choices and rewards for each?
(still deciding if I'm going to pursue that skill-line).Edited by Grizzbeorn on August 27, 2020 1:40PM0 -
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✭✭Grizzbeorn wrote: »What are the choices and rewards for each?
(still deciding if I'm going to pursue that skill-line).
This isn't actually anything to do with the skill line. You can reach Mage's Guild 10 quite easily without doing the quest line, as you only need to read lorebooks.
But to answer your question, if you choose one of the two options, you get two skill points. The thing is if you don't take the skill points option, you can never get those two skill points from any other source. These are the only two skill points that you can potentially be locked out of getting.
TBF, with all the skills now in the game, they are very useful. At launch they were not so vital.In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!1 -
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✭✭Grizzbeorn wrote: »What are the choices and rewards for each?
(still deciding if I'm going to pursue that skill-line).
save the damsel : reward = default 1 skill point story quest
help the Daedra lord : reward = 2 skill points or "half a dozen skyshards" + 1 skill point for finishing a story questEdited by dsalter on August 27, 2020 1:48PMPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »This isn't actually anything to do with the skill line. You can reach Mage's Guild 10 quite easily without doing the quest line, as you only need to read lorebooks.
But to answer your question, if you choose one of the two options, you get two skill points. The thing is if you don't take the skill points option, you can never get those two skill points from any other source. These are the only two skill points that you can potentially be locked out of getting.
TBF, with all the skills now in the game, they are very useful. At launch they were not so vital.save the damsel : reward = default 1 skill point story quest
help the Daedra lord : reward = 2 skill points or "half a dozen skyshards" + 1 skill point for finishing a story quest
Sorry; misspoke. I meant the quest-line. (I know you can level the skill-line by simply collecting lore books.)
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✭✭Grizzbeorn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »This isn't actually anything to do with the skill line. You can reach Mage's Guild 10 quite easily without doing the quest line, as you only need to read lorebooks.
But to answer your question, if you choose one of the two options, you get two skill points. The thing is if you don't take the skill points option, you can never get those two skill points from any other source. These are the only two skill points that you can potentially be locked out of getting.
TBF, with all the skills now in the game, they are very useful. At launch they were not so vital.save the damsel : reward = default 1 skill point story quest
help the Daedra lord : reward = 2 skill points or "half a dozen skyshards" + 1 skill point for finishing a story quest
Sorry; misspoke. I meant the quest-line. (I know you can level the skill-line by simply collecting lore books.)
Thank you both for the info.
No problem at all dude.
Glad we could help.In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!1 -
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✭There is no dilemma, I mean why wouldn't you take the skill points? Valaste is nothing more than pixels on a screen, why would you care where she ends up?The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭People describe it so weirdly though, "sacrifice her" it sounds so evil as if she is sent for eternal torment. For me she looked very happy talking about butterflies with uncle Sheo.1 -
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✭✭✭Wildberryjack wrote: »There is no dilemma, I mean why wouldn't you take the skill points? Valaste is nothing more than pixels on a screen, why would you care where she ends up?
It's part of the RPG aspect of the game. That "washing the dust of daily life off our souls" part.
It ain't all about manipulating a stat-stick avatar through a virtual world.
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✭I don't think of myself as a rper but for me it depends on my idea of the character's personality. My main, a Templar, saved her. My Vampblade sent her to the Isles. I have probably sent her with Uncle Sheo more than half of the times I have done that quest. She loves her uncle.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭You will be surprised, you too make your decisions that way, when you choose to save her you benefit staying in your "goody" shoes...
I'm roleplaying and my char didn't save her to be a good guy (he has killed more than enough people as an assassin), he genuinely liked her. And yes, you can like people without expecting any benefits from them.@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire1
