DPS very low

friskee

Hello guys, I’m fairly new to ESO, I am CP 369 currently. I’m just wondering why my DPS is so low, I am a stamina warden and just beginning my run for good gear. I currently run 5 piece leviathan, 5 piece toothrow and 2 piece slimecraw, all my gear is purple (haven’t got the resources to go gold yet). My weapon damage is sitting on 2010 (no buff) and my weapon critical is 63.3% (no buff). I run shadow rune.

I’m just wondering why I’m hitting such low damage, what am I doing wrong?

Help and feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Atherakhia

The single largest contributor to your overall DPS is going to be light attack weaving. Are you light attack weaving?

I suggest you get an addon like LightAttackHelper and use it to practice your light attack weaving. You're aiming for .8 light attacks a second or higher. If you're unsure what light attack weaving is, there are tons of Youtube videos to teach you the basics. Beyond that it will just take practice.

I think I was hitting roughly 20k DPS doing nothing but light attack weaving with a spammable back when I was learning.

zvavi

Do you have more information? weapon enchantments, weapons themselves, skills etc will be great. Additionally I will work into goldening specifically weapons, the other staff are not a big dmg boost.

If you are on pc with add-ons cmx parse would be great too.

the1andonlyskwex

I have a very fundamental question. What is your actual DPS? How low is "very low"?

At the moment nobody can tell whether your problem is something fundamental like not even knowing how to equip and use abilities, or something more advanced like animation cancelling.

redspecter23

Go with lover mundus about 95% of the time. The penetration is usually needed to hit about 18,500 total on most dungeon mobs, especially if you're still lowish cp. Go with shadow when you know the debuffs from the rest of the group will get you to that penetration goal. This occurs most often in organized trials or in 4 man dungeons with experienced and well geared tanks and healers.

Work on light attack weaving. As often as possible, put a light attack between each skill.

Don't go for a complicated rotation immediately. I suggest 2 dots and then spammable weave until those dots run out. Swarm and rending slashes are decent. For aoe, try volley and prep the packs with subterranean assault. Then weave whirlwind, cleave or maybe silver bolts.

Wandering_Immigrant

You're wearing all crit sets with no damage to back it up. Get rid if toothrow, warden has one of the best major savagery self buffs available with lotus flow so use that instead. Replace toothrow with a damage set, Hundings (crafted), Briarheart (overland), anything along those lines will do. Use weapon damage enchant on back bar if you're not already. Practice weaving if you don't. Those are the most common things newer players sometimes miss I can think of without knowing more about your build.

Joxer61

https://xynodegaming.com/guides/eso-beginner-guides/

and pretty much what has been mentioned here....

friskee

Thank you guys for the help.

I will start to farm for a new set instead of toothrow. I’m not sure actually how to check my DPS I just know that I’m not outputting enough to benefit the team

Everest_Lionheart

Stamwarden is a interesting character to play and I find it to be a lot of fun, especially DW with a bow backbar. I’m fairly new to the game myself but have a decent amount of CP under my belt at CP540. I’m finally breaking 50K on the build hitting 53-54K consistently. Rotation plays a huge part on that, as does proper light attack weaving.

I’m using 5pc Hundings and 5pc Briarheart with 2pc Sellistrix. No maelstrom bow, just can’t get the drops. I have 2 rings bloodthirsty but likely to change to infused after the patch. Neck is arcane, body pieces are all stamina enchants divine except helmet is infused until I get a bit more CP to help sustain. I have Selene set also but in terrible traits waiting transmutation.

Front bar I have sub assault, growing swarm, soul consuming trap, cutting dive, bird of prey and the bear ult.

Back bar I have barbed trap, endless hail, poison injection, bull netch, bird of prey and bear ult (need to be double slotted)

Bird of prey is there for extra damage because it’s gives 8% bonus plus 2% with animal companions passive but you’ll never actually use the skill. Just slotting it gives a you the benefits you need, much like magelight on mag toons it there for passives.

Anyhow easiest static rotation I have as follows.
LA=light attack
SA=Sub assault
BS=bar swap

Begin rotation on back bar
Activate potion to start.

Barb trap>LA>endless hail>LA>bull netch>LA>Poison injection>BS>LA>SA>LA>Growing swarm>LA>consuming trap>LA>SA>LA>cutting dive>LA>cutting dive>LA>SA>BS

And repeat. Cast bull netch every second rotation. Or for sake of continuity you can cast each rotation because it costs 0 to cast just time but it will cause you to lose DPS to stay fully static.

Activate potion every time it runs out. If you are practicing on a 21 mil dummy make sure you get that synergy to restore raw as well.

Of course that’s for parsing, in the real world you’ll want some different skills like heals or shields. But that’s another topic for another time!

Wyrd88

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

Front bar I have sub assault, growing swarm, soul consuming trap, cutting dive, bird of prey and the bear ult.

Back bar I have barbed trap, endless hail, poison injection, bull netch, bird of prey and bear ult (need to be double slotted

I'd recommend to swap Consuming Trap with Bull Netch, since it gives you additional 2% damage bonus on front bar.

zvavi

Wyrd88 wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

Front bar I have sub assault, growing swarm, soul consuming trap, cutting dive, bird of prey and the bear ult.

Back bar I have barbed trap, endless hail, poison injection, bull netch, bird of prey and bear ult (need to be double slotted

I'd recommend to swap Consuming Trap with Bull Netch, since it gives you additional 2% damage bonus on front bar.

I will as well. Makes it easy to remember to ult on front bar, one rotation netch, next one ult.

kathandira

friskee wrote: »

Hello guys, I’m fairly new to ESO, I am CP 369 currently. I’m just wondering why my DPS is so low, I am a stamina warden and just beginning my run for good gear. I currently run 5 piece leviathan, 5 piece toothrow and 2 piece slimecraw, all my gear is purple (haven’t got the resources to go gold yet). My weapon damage is sitting on 2010 (no buff) and my weapon critical is 63.3% (no buff). I run shadow rune.

I’m just wondering why I’m hitting such low damage, what am I doing wrong?

Help and feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

In regards to Toothrow.

Always ask yourself. If the set bonus provides a "Major" buff, is there another way to get that same buff?

Toothrow:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) Adds 100 Weapon Damage, Gain Major Savagery at all times, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191.

Warden Skill

Green Lotus:
Embrace the lotus blessing, causing your Light Attacks to restore 1320 Health and your fully-charged Heavy Attacks to restore 3960 Health to you or a nearby ally for 20 seconds. You gain Major Savagery, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191 for 20 seconds.

So essentially, Green Lotus would make the 5pc bonus of Toothrow obsolete.

The other thing to ask yourself. Is the skill that I get the Major Buff from actually beneficial outside of gaining the Major Buff? Can I get that Major Buff from a potion?

Essence of Weapon Critical:
Major Savagery
Restore Health
Restore Stamina

Everest_Lionheart

Wyrd88 wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

Front bar I have sub assault, growing swarm, soul consuming trap, cutting dive, bird of prey and the bear ult.

Back bar I have barbed trap, endless hail, poison injection, bull netch, bird of prey and bear ult (need to be double slotted

I'd recommend to swap Consuming Trap with Bull Netch, since it gives you additional 2% damage bonus on front bar.

Parsing I prefer it on the back, but raiding it goes on the front and the trap is gone replaced by a burst heal. Bird of prey also dropped for expansive frost cloak on back bar. Also change out cutting dive for whirling blades for the aoe+execute. That’s 4 man setup for vet dungeon.

Trial setup looks similar no burst heal on back bar because it’s just not needed so I slot the cutting dive there so I have a full range bar. Drop the frost cloak for my bird of prey also on back bar.

All that to say parsing and raiding are different setups. There is another setup for solo play as well that I use for maelstrom arena or soloing dungeons.

Everest_Lionheart

kathandira wrote: »

friskee wrote: »

Hello guys, I’m fairly new to ESO, I am CP 369 currently. I’m just wondering why my DPS is so low, I am a stamina warden and just beginning my run for good gear. I currently run 5 piece leviathan, 5 piece toothrow and 2 piece slimecraw, all my gear is purple (haven’t got the resources to go gold yet). My weapon damage is sitting on 2010 (no buff) and my weapon critical is 63.3% (no buff). I run shadow rune.

I’m just wondering why I’m hitting such low damage, what am I doing wrong?

Help and feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

In regards to Toothrow.

Always ask yourself. If the set bonus provides a "Major" buff, is there another way to get that same buff?

Toothrow:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) Adds 100 Weapon Damage, Gain Major Savagery at all times, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191.

Warden Skill

Green Lotus:
Embrace the lotus blessing, causing your Light Attacks to restore 1320 Health and your fully-charged Heavy Attacks to restore 3960 Health to you or a nearby ally for 20 seconds. You gain Major Savagery, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191 for 20 seconds.

So essentially, Green Lotus would make the 5pc bonus of Toothrow obsolete.

The other thing to ask yourself. Is the skill that I get the Major Buff from actually beneficial outside of gaining the Major Buff? Can I get that Major Buff from a potion?

Essence of Weapon Critical:
Major Savagery
Restore Health
Restore Stamina

This last part is true, and I use green lotus myself because it’s the cheaper alternative to the weapon pots. This works for most gameplay but in a group setting the green lotus is dropped in favour of the potion. You would want to run your everyday content or even some of the easier dungeons/trials using through potions.

MinnesotaKid

Infused jewelry w/ weap dmg enchants will help a bit too. (278WD per if gold iirc)

kathandira

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

kathandira wrote: »

friskee wrote: »

Hello guys, I’m fairly new to ESO, I am CP 369 currently. I’m just wondering why my DPS is so low, I am a stamina warden and just beginning my run for good gear. I currently run 5 piece leviathan, 5 piece toothrow and 2 piece slimecraw, all my gear is purple (haven’t got the resources to go gold yet). My weapon damage is sitting on 2010 (no buff) and my weapon critical is 63.3% (no buff). I run shadow rune.

I’m just wondering why I’m hitting such low damage, what am I doing wrong?

Help and feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

In regards to Toothrow.

Always ask yourself. If the set bonus provides a "Major" buff, is there another way to get that same buff?

Toothrow:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) Adds 100 Weapon Damage, Gain Major Savagery at all times, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191.

Warden Skill

Green Lotus:
Embrace the lotus blessing, causing your Light Attacks to restore 1320 Health and your fully-charged Heavy Attacks to restore 3960 Health to you or a nearby ally for 20 seconds. You gain Major Savagery, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191 for 20 seconds.

So essentially, Green Lotus would make the 5pc bonus of Toothrow obsolete.

The other thing to ask yourself. Is the skill that I get the Major Buff from actually beneficial outside of gaining the Major Buff? Can I get that Major Buff from a potion?

Essence of Weapon Critical:
Major Savagery
Restore Health
Restore Stamina

This last part is true, and I use green lotus myself because it’s the cheaper alternative to the weapon pots. This works for most gameplay but in a group setting the green lotus is dropped in favour of the potion. You would want to run your everyday content or even some of the easier dungeons/trials using through potions.

Totally. Its good to have a few extra skills on deck to be swapped in and out depending on the content.

kathandira

MinnesotaKid wrote: »

Infused jewelry w/ weap dmg enchants will help a bit too. (278WD per if gold iirc)

173x3 = 519. + 60% (Yellow) = 311. Should come out to 830 Spell or Weapon Damage in total.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

This will sound crazy, but almost nothing you said in your post is relevant to why your DPS is "very low."

Will getting better CP and better Gear (both quality and sets) help your DPS ? Sure will (toothrow is garbage, fyi, plenty of ways to get the buff). Just like a 10 thousand dollar guitar will probably sound better than one you get for 100 bucks. That said, it's not the guitar, it's the musician.

DPS in this game comes down to rotation. ESO has a very high skill threshold for damage dealers. Without seeing some sort of parse on a trial dummy, it is very difficult to know what you are doing right or wrong.

As a stamina DPS you need to find a way to get Major Endurance (Regen), Major Savagery (crit), and Major Brutality (damage). The easiest way is with weapon power potions, but there are workarounds. They will always come at a small DPS loss. You also really want minor force (Trap from the fighters guild line covers this) and major Fracture (tank should cover this, but so will Sub Assault.

Until you get into trial gear, you should look for sets that prioritize weapon crit and weapon damage. leviathin is going to give you a decent chunk of crit, so a good weapon damage set like hundings would prob serve you better in the meantime.

In terms of rotation on a warden, I wont go crazy but I will give some pointers. Your bread and butter is Sub assault. It will be cast every third skill. Wardens have a 1.2.3., 1.2.3, type of rotation. Every skill should be preceded by a light attack.

To be candid, stam warden is not great for pure DPS in the current Meta. Don't get me wrong, they are perfectly viable, but they are pretty much dead last for a stam DPS. They are super strong in PVP.

Joxer61

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

To be candid, stam warden is not great for pure DPS in the current Meta. Don't get me wrong, they are perfectly viable, but they are pretty much dead last for a stam DPS. They are super strong in PVP.

Can you elaborate on why?

Wyrd88

Joxer61 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

To be candid, stam warden is not great for pure DPS in the current Meta. Don't get me wrong, they are perfectly viable, but they are pretty much dead last for a stam DPS. They are super strong in PVP.

Can you elaborate on why?

I believe because of ESOLogs statistics. If he's talking about organized/progression runs then that makes sence.

But for 4-man content it doesn't matter at all.