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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

Any tips to get more followers in ESO and what to people desir e most ?

Vanya
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There seems to be a lot of streamers and usually does on TOP have extremely high amount of followers imagine 10 people with hundrds or thoiusands and then bulk is with extremely low , there seems to void between,

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Do people enjoy trial,sdungeons and PvP ingeneral or perhaps story content or simply exploration ?


I did streamed and I am streaming but I have no skills to promote my channel or get it to mor pro level

Thank you

[Edited to remove Hate Speech]
Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on August 18, 2020 3:41PM
  • TheImperfect
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    Honestly I think you are better doing content you personally like the best. It's your time, people like everything and you will be a better streamer if you are obviously enjoying it. Nobody wants to watch somebody going through the motions but with no heart in it. Just do what you enjoy, have fun with it and make it your own.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    Don't take the viewer count numbers seriously. There are regular ESO streamers who can have a lot of viewers who aren't watching the stream at all due to their stream being embedded in a web site that people are loading to read unrelated information about ESO. If you check the chat of a supposed 5000 viewer ESO stream, you will usually see it moving a lot slower than a stream that really has 5k viewers.

    I think regularly watchers watch because (1) they think the streamer is personally entertaining, (2) they find the streamer has a lot of useful information to share, or (3) the streamer is really good at what they do, such as being skilled at PvP or trials.
  • FafiQ_xP
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    :)
    For the Covenant!
  • Danikat
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    I think regularly watchers watch because (1) they think the streamer is personally entertaining, (2) they find the streamer has a lot of useful information to share, or (3) the streamer is really good at what they do, such as being skilled at PvP or trials.

    I could never get into watching streamers myself, but among my friends who do this definitely seems to be the case. They're mainly watching because they find the streamer entertaining or informative and the game is secondary to that. They'll even watch games they don't play and have no intention of playing just because they like seeing the streamer's reactions or how they describe things.

    The nearest I've come to watching streams is sometimes watching these 'late to the party' videos Eurogamer does where they get someone to play an old game they've never done before alongside someone who knows it well and those are the same. The game itself isn't really important (although it helps to know a bit about it) what makes it fun is their reactions to it - the total confusion when something unexpected happens vs. the reaction from someone who is so familiar with it they've forgotten that's even weird and just getting to see someone discovering a classic game for the first time.
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  • KMarble
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    Be professional.
    Create a schedule and stick to it.
    Get to know your audience.
    Watch other streamers, both the ones you consider successful and the ones who have small or no viewership. Try to figure out what makes those other streamers gather and audience/stream to the void.
    INTERACT WITH YOUR AUDIENCE
    Vanya wrote: »
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    Vanya wrote: »
    Do people enjoy trial,sdungeons and PvP ingeneral or perhaps story content or simply exploration ?
    As others have said, do what you enjoy and are good at.

    One last piece of advice, not everybody is cut out to be a streamer.

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    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on August 18, 2020 4:48PM
  • Donny_Vito
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    [snip]

    That is just the society we live in. It's the same reason why half of the articles I see online show a very attractive girl along with a headline that literally has nothing to do with that attractive girl, yet I imagine people simply click on the link before she is attractive. Aesthetics is always in demand.
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on August 18, 2020 4:48PM
  • Girl_Number8
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    You just went the opposite way of a pro channel will this gem

    But maybe you should become a girl since we get tons of followers pffft
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on August 18, 2020 4:48PM
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    mrsrobot wrote: »
    Honestly I think you are better doing content you personally like the best. It's your time, people like everything and you will be a better streamer if you are obviously enjoying it. Nobody wants to watch somebody going through the motions but with no heart in it. Just do what you enjoy, have fun with it and make it your own.

    This.

    And get on Zos' streaming list for drops. I do not know if the posting in the linked thread helps anymore, but give it a try.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/152841/streamers-with-regular-live-shows-sound-off#latest

    Also, remember some of the big streamers do more than stream. They manage websites and discord which probably offers some added benefit to the big picture. They have also been streaming for awhile. They put in the time and effort to build up all those followers.
  • DMuehlhausen
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    The key to getting followers as a streaming isn't the game you play, it's the character you are. Ninja isn't a top streamer cause he's the amazing player. He's gotten there cause he's a character. Same with Dr. Disrespect and the other top people. You have to be willing to say some stuff that is going to *** people off too to get clicks.

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    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on August 21, 2020 10:05AM
  • mairwen85
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    Never mind...
    Edited by mairwen85 on August 18, 2020 4:45PM
  • josiahva
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    I don't understand why someone would watch someone else play anyway to be honest...aside from things like mech descriptions or those trying to copy people at the top. I know I never stream any video games myself....seems pointless when I could actually be playing and learning
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    josiahva wrote: »
    I don't understand why someone would watch someone else play anyway to be honest...aside from things like mech descriptions or those trying to copy people at the top. I know I never stream any video games myself....seems pointless when I could actually be playing and learning

    They don't watch for the game, but for the streamer with the game as a vessel really or shared interest.

  • LightningWitch
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    Vanya wrote: »
    I did streamed and I am streaming but I have no skills to promote my channel or get it to mor pro level
    There are way too many streams and channels dedicated to this game, and most have already established their audience.

    Adding a stream now to an over saturated market is like Microsoft trying to get into streaming with Mixer.

    If you don't know how that ended, google it.

    Now, if you want to do something different, try playing the game so stupidly as to make jokes about what you're doing.

    Go to PVP and try to go 1vX with a naked Bosmer or something.

    Entertainment that's funny and doesn't take this game too seriously like far, far too many videos.



  • TineaCruris
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    Vanya wrote: »
    There seems to be a lot of streamers and usually does on TOP have extremely high amount of followers imagine 10 people with hundrds or thoiusands and then bulk is with extremely low , there seems to void between,

    [snip]


    Do people enjoy trial,sdungeons and PvP ingeneral or perhaps story content or simply exploration ?


    I did streamed and I am streaming but I have no skills to promote my channel or get it to mor pro level

    Thank you

    [Edited to remove Hate Speech]

    The streamers I knew left a year plus ago due to performance.

    So from the perspective of the streamers I know, the way to bring them back is to make the game playable again.
  • Danikat
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    josiahva wrote: »
    I don't understand why someone would watch someone else play anyway to be honest...aside from things like mech descriptions or those trying to copy people at the top. I know I never stream any video games myself....seems pointless when I could actually be playing and learning

    I've never gotten into watching streams myself, but as far as I can tell from other people talking about them it's kind of like watching TV chat shows or something - they watch them for the host, because they're entertaining, and whatever info you get about the game/s is secondary to that.

    Which kind of makes sense, I don't watch much TV either and if I do I have to be doing something else like a craft project or a game that doesn't take too much concentration, otherwise I get bored and distracted with things I could be doing even if it's a show I'd like to watch. The biggest difference from my perspective is people usually accept it if you don't watch streamers, whereas telling people I don't watch TV either makes them really defensive and they try to claim they don't either (having just told me they watched 5 hour-long shows the night before and acted amazed I'm not following all of them too) or they get angry, like I'm some anti-TV militant judging them for how they choose to spend their time, as if spending entire evenings online is any better. :D
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    "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"
  • TheImperfect
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    josiahva wrote: »
    I don't understand why someone would watch someone else play anyway to be honest...aside from things like mech descriptions or those trying to copy people at the top. I know I never stream any video games myself....seems pointless when I could actually be playing and learning

    I watch if too tired to play myself or If I don't have access to my PC and want to feel involved with ESO and have already been on the forums.
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    I've said this before whenever the subject of Twitch drops comes up, but I always watch streamers who don't have as many people watching them, and I've never had an ussue getting a Twitch drop-- except once, when I made the mistake of watching in the Twitch app on my PC instead of on my iPad, and didn't find out until later that the PC app seems to default to privacy(?) settings which hide my online status and won't share my status with others, whereas the iPad app correctly remembers which settings I've chosen.

    Anyway, I'm not saying that watching a streamer who has fewer than 100 viewers is "safer" as far as getting your drops than watching a streamer who has thousands of viewers, but I was watching one streamer who was playing Arena, and at one point he rearranged the windows on his screen and one of his windows showed a list of his viewers-- which, at the time, was basically just me, seeing as how Arena is such a wildly popular game. So imagine a window like that with a text listing of, say, 2000 viewers' Twitch account names, with the names being an average of, say, 8 characters long. If you include a CR-LF after each name, that would be 20,000 characters. I don't know if there are any limits on how many lines of text that window can display, or how many bytes of character information it can hold, or how many characters the streamers can copy and paste into whatever list they send to ZOS, but I just feel like there's less chance of a boo-boo of some kind if I'm on a short list, if you know what I mean.

    Besides, I figure the steeamers who have fewer viewers need me more than the streamers who have thousands of viewers do.

    I don't think I've noticed your channel yet, but I'll keep an eye out for it.
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