New Idea: Rent a home

santhoranb16_ESO

ESO has by now more then 20+ time-exclusive homes that are/were only buyable for short periods of time (and then only with crowns, not gold), that it would be a great change imo if you could rent those older timed-exclusives for a weekly gold fee.
First it would serve as an additional gold sink, second it would open broader access to these old-gone homes and third it would make players able to get those pretty crown exclusives homes for gold too. And if they like it and want to get rid of the weekly fee, they might could even buy-out the home with crowns after a set-period of time.

It should include of course that if you stop paying the rent, you dont lose the furniture or your hard decorating work, you just cant access it anymore till you pay again (like on losing acess to DLC with eso+ runs out).

The price would be of course something notable, that you cannot rent many Manor homes at once and those from the recent year are excluded , maybe even last two years , that ZOS has still time to sell em for crowns.

Nestor

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

As one who abhors limited time offers, as it is a blatant psychological manipulation of people and not a straightforward transaction where someone can plan for the purchase, this sounds good to me as a way to keep the house available after the arbitrary limited time offer stage.

Couple of Questions:

1. What would happen to any furnishings placed there when the player stopped paying rent?
2. Would the homes be furnished or not on rental, if furnished, how is the furniture going to be handled? It needs to be Bound to the House if you think about it. That would create an even larger database of items.
3. What would happen if someone needs or wants or has to stay away from the game for a while?
4. Would the rental fee have any impact on the final price of the home?

RedTalon

Other

NM

redgreensunset

Okay how would this work? Would it just pull the gold automatically from your account? What happens to furnishing if the lease expires?

Also those homes usually make a return now and again but that's beside the point of this post.

santhoranb16_ESO

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

1. The furnishings stay in place , the home just "freezes" in place and you cannot enter it until you pay the gold rent again. As soon as you pay the rent again it comes back out of the "idle" mode as nothing has changed till you last left it.
2. The homes come unfurnished like all Gold-bought homes.
3. Nothing happens if you stay away and dont pay rent, see 1. - when you're back and pay the gold rent again its all like you had never left.
4. Thats up for ZOS to say i guess what crown price it should have to "buy" it out, but a discount like for some returning homes they already made could might be offered as an incentive to switch from rent to owning the home.

santhoranb16_ESO

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

redgreensunset wrote: »

Okay how would this work? Would it just pull the gold automatically from your account? What happens to furnishing if the lease expires?

Its charges from the deposited gold in your bank, if there isnt enough gold in the bank, the rent automatically stops.

In the homes you can also stop the rent manually, it ends then with the next due would happen.

(The furnishings i wrote earlier about - it just freezes them in place till you unlock the home again).

Recent

Other

I think it's a really cute idea but voted other and here is why: I can't see the logistics of this working when i compare it to the 5 years plus eso model. What you are proposing is not within the boundaries of how zos does things.

Still I absolutely admire your idea. I myself have wanted to be able to sell houses i bought years ago that i no longer use . I would love to rent tjose places out for cheap to other player s that cant afford to buy a house...heck i'd evrn gift them to other players 😊😊😊😊But sadly i know zos don't operate like this. They need to entice players to buy houses to make money to create more game content, pay their staff, rent etc

Tommy_The_Gun

No, i think they should stay "exclusive" for crowns.

At 1st I liked the idea, but then I realised that... ESO+ Exclusive houses... On top of paying for it with Crowns you have to be pay ESO+ subscriber (rental tax ?)... nuff said...

It was always like this. Every time players ask for something, they got a twisted and disgusting version of it. More furniture slots ? Boom ESO+ feature. More bank / inventory space ? Boom. Craft Bag & inventory pets. Or when players wanted to have account wide Skyshards ? Boom Skyshards in crown store...

So, yes, OP idea is nice, but ZOS has a history of monetising everything everywhere...

Red_Feather

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

Anyone play everquest 2. We had homes to rent in that. A weekly gold upkeep.

Knightpanther

Red_Feather wrote: »

Anyone play everquest 2. We had homes to rent in that. A weekly gold upkeep.

Yep remember my house at number 2 Walk Of The Dead

EQ2 had an amazing housing system and easy ways to rent with Gold/Status

Be safe

santhoranb16_ESO

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

Recent wrote: »

I think it's a really cute idea but voted other and here is why: I can't see the logistics of this working when i compare it to the 5 years plus eso model. What you are proposing is not within the boundaries of how zos does things.

Still I absolutely admire your idea. I myself have wanted to be able to sell houses i bought years ago that i no longer use . I would love to rent tjose places out for cheap to other player s that cant afford to buy a house...heck i'd evrn gift them to other players 😊😊😊😊But sadly i know zos don't operate like this. They need to entice players to buy houses to make money to create more game content, pay their staff, rent etc

The fact is, soon their exclusive homes will be so many, they cant bring em all back in reasonable time frames.
So most times they'll be dead-weight. The work with designing, code and so on is all done on each home already, so no extra has to be made - once the system of renting is implemented (which would be code wise an entry allowance+ a gold retrieving from your bank if you rent). It shouldnt be to much work to make one more option besides preview home - rent home as additional option.

With renting it could be brought to a large broader audience.
The homes would not be "lost" 95%+ of time.
It serves as gold sink.
In encourages maybe some to buy out their home (money for zos).
Or to buy furniture from crown store (money for zos).

So all sides win.

The database would get larger for the homes as more homes would store data, but the home database shouldnt make troubles for ZOS as its not a time-sensitive data which requires quick reaction times like stats and skills in pvp.

PizzaCat82

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

I really don't get putting crown store homes behind a limited time offer. I hear you can beg a customer service rep to sell you them if you're lucky, but for the older ones it really doesn't make sense. No one's gonna be sad that their grotto, pvp arena, or mountainside estate is less rare as long as everyone pays the same crowns.

TequilaFire

Cool, make evictions part of the justice system.

AcadianPaladin

Other

I like limited time offers. Just like I like crate / gem only items. Both advertising tactics save me a TON of money that I might actually spend if the items were offered straight up for sale on MY timeline.

volkeswagon

No, i think they should stay "exclusive" for crowns.

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I like limited time offers. Just like I like crate / gem only items. Both advertising tactics save me a TON of money that I might actually spend if the items were offered straight up for sale on MY timeline.

Sarcasm?

santhoranb16_ESO

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

Probably many do really never buy such homes, cause if you visit from a pure rational/logical view point it makes no sense to buy such a high priced digital home and just have such a short time frame. Which is why its dead content for most time AND most users.

technohic

Other

Edit: Thought you meant rent from players.

ArchangelIsraphel

No, i think they should stay "exclusive" for crowns.

I'll never be a fan of any kind of rental system in any game after horrible experiences in other games with such systems. The rental fee would probably be grossly overpriced too. No thank you, I'd rather buy a large house each year with crowns I put by than do this!

scorpius2k1

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

Housing is a huge money maker for ZoS so them offering in-game gold as an option to "rent" housing over actual monetization from people buying them with cash would be a loss to their bottom line. This is a clever idea and I like it but would likely never be a thing though because of the aforementioned.
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santhoranb16_ESO

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

I'll never be a fan of any kind of rental system in any game after horrible experiences in other games with such systems. The rental fee would probably be grossly overpriced too. No thank you, I'd rather buy a large house each year with crowns I put by than do this!

Well the option to buy would not be removed, just the exclusivity to them would be taken away so a broader playerbase can access those home. Besides the fact that you rarely (means just some days) can buy them at all, rest of the time they are just dead-content thats designed but not available.

Danel_Vadan

Other

Neither renting (gross!) nor exclusives: add houses to in game achievement rewards, like motif pages. People who have a solid group can farm for the house, while those with disposable income can buy it.

Respect4Elders

In the meantime you can just join a large guild and visit the homes of those that own the ones you like who made them their primary residence. You can find them easier by sorting the roster by location. And the best part...it's free. If you feel the need to decorate then make friends with guildie to get decorator privileges.

santhoranb16_ESO

Yes, let us rent old time exclusive homes for gold !

Respect4Elders wrote: »

In the meantime you can just join a large guild and visit the homes of those that own the ones you like who made them their primary residence. You can find them easier by sorting the roster by location. And the best part...it's free. If you feel the need to decorate then make friends with guildie to get decorator privileges.

Its anyway free to preview homes too, the point is to decorate your own home, and btw decorator privileges isnt...well not worth its name - you cant place things, you cant remove, you can move it little bit up and down thats all.

richo262

Other

Nestor wrote: »

As one who abhors limited time offers, as it is a blatant psychological manipulation of people and not a straightforward transaction where someone can plan for the purchase, this sounds good to me as a way to keep the house available after the arbitrary limited time offer stage.

Couple of Questions:

1. What would happen to any furnishings placed there when the player stopped paying rent?
2. Would the homes be furnished or not on rental, if furnished, how is the furniture going to be handled? It needs to be Bound to the House if you think about it. That would create an even larger database of items.
3. What would happen if someone needs or wants or has to stay away from the game for a while?
4. Would the rental fee have any impact on the final price of the home?

1. Eviction notice. You can enter the house but you automatically get booted from instance, 2 minute timer. You have 2 minutes to gather your stuff and bugger off or pay up. You cannot add or interact with items in the house other than withdrawing them.
2. I'd say no.
3. I'd say, it should pull $$ directly from gold in bank, however if player does not log in for a period of more than 1 month the rent freezes.
4. Not if its crowns.

Better scenario would be, have houses giftable via crowns.