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Cyrodiil still unplayable during prime time and barely functioning during off hours
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Performance during prime time is a total joke. ....but people quit laughing at the failure more than a year ago. It's not funny anymore.
We know ZOS can make performance much, much better with a single maitenance as they did for the MYM event.
Why can't we get performance as good as we had during the MYM event at all times? Why are we forced to endure performance that ZOS KNOWS they can make better with the flip of a switch, but they CHOOSE not to.
Why does ZOS do this to their customers?
We know ZOS can make performance much, much better with a single maitenance as they did for the MYM event.
Why can't we get performance as good as we had during the MYM event at all times? Why are we forced to endure performance that ZOS KNOWS they can make better with the flip of a switch, but they CHOOSE not to.
Why does ZOS do this to their customers?
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zergbase_ESO✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »Performance during prime time is a total joke. ....but people quit laughing at the failure more than a year ago. It's not funny anymore.
We know ZOS can make performance much, much better with a single maitenance as they did for the MYM event.
Why can't we get performance as good as we had during the MYM event at all times? Why are we forced to endure performance that ZOS KNOWS they can make better with the flip of a switch, but they CHOOSE not to.
Why does ZOS do this to their customers?
Because people still pay them money.5 -
WySoSirius✭✭✭✭Still with the load screens during off-peak. Delayed skills. The usual suspect bugs. And the nail in the coffin was the game freezing that I had to ctrl alt del close the game. Pvp is finished.1
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SweepsAllClowns✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »Why does ZOS do this to their customers?
Profits before performance, it's that simple.
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✭✭once they start the AOE "testing" Cyrodiil will play like a dream as it will be empty7 -
TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭SweepsAllClowns wrote: »TineaCruris wrote: »Why does ZOS do this to their customers?
Profits before performance, it's that simple.
I guess I should have pointed out that "why?" was a rhetorical question. We all know why at this point. Anyone who's been around for more than a year has seen first hand why performance is so bad. (profits before performance at every turn is why)2 -
ClawOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭In before the lock.Alienoutlaw wrote: »once they start the AOE "testing" Cyrodiil will play like a dream as it will be empty
You are correct, and they aren't gonna care that the data they get isn't good because cyro was empty. They're just gonna say "preference was better during our tests so we're moving forward with the changes", and i bet cyro is still gonna be a mess after.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Not sure what OP expected to change since the last time Rich spoke on the subject and acknowledged there is an issue. It has only been nine days.0 -
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✭I think the OP wants to know why the performance in Cyrodiil was better during Midyear mayhem with all 3 alliances pop-locked than it was just after the event with all 3 alliances at 2-3 bars. TBH I would like to know too because it doesn't really make much sense... but it's definitely how it was!
I've seen forum post saying it was the lack of ball-groups & greater amount of pugs but that's not how my experience was. I saw the same guilds/ball-groups rolling around during & after the event. I saw huge fights with more players in one area than I have seen in years during the event with much less performance issues than directly after the event.
Was it ZOS allocating extra hardware/resources during the event & taking it away again after the event? Is that what you mean by "Profits before performance"?NA Server [PC] -- Mostly Ebonheart Pact, Mostly.0 -
SweepsAllClowns✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »SweepsAllClowns wrote: »TineaCruris wrote: »Why does ZOS do this to their customers?
Profits before performance, it's that simple.
I guess I should have pointed out that "why?" was a rhetorical question. We all know why at this point. Anyone who's been around for more than a year has seen first hand why performance is so bad. (profits before performance at every turn is why)
So I assumed the question was. I remember the Cyrodiil performance was supposed to be somekind of priority in 2016 already, I played the Midyear Mayhem 2016 edition on my original Xbox EU account then and thought that surely the Cyrodiil will be much better experience in 2017 when they would have worked whole year as priority to make it better. Well now in 2020 that Xbox EU cp 1575 account has been completely stuck for 17 months next week, I still play with my only working Xbox NA cp 1269 account and think about quitting almost every day. Then again why should I sacrifice my only working account because the company cannot provide a working EU account, I have created a new Xbox account to test if I can login on EU server, I've created argonian named "EU connection just works" so there's no problems on my end, it's on same console and connection so any excuses about ports or anything else is totally pointless at this point.1 -
Snowgoons✭✭✭✭Not sure what OP expected to change since the last time Rich spoke on the subject and acknowledged there is an issue. It has only been nine days.
A state of emergency should be declared by the company with the PvP functioning the way it is.
If you couldn't buy crowns someone would be on it.
If you couldn't get a monster set anymore, someone would be on it.
Why when you can't cyrodiil PvP is NO ONE ON IT????????????????????????????????????????????????
Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos would have ALL hands on deck, and you know it.Rollin' round Tamriel on that skooma wasted like a failed Grand Theft Auto mission.2 -
SweepsAllClowns✭✭✭✭
Exactly so, the overall situation is and has been for very long just like everything is totally fine, perhaps some slight lag and loading screens here and there, but overall definitely nothing major. If and eventually when the situation gets extremely horribad even on prime time lagtastic standards, then someone might actually give some attention and advice to check your connection and the typical troubleshoot list is also spammed, the assumption is always that the issue is on customer's end. Sometimes when Cyrodiil is about to explode and also pve areas are affected by the premium lag enough, then someone might even make a thread informing the typical comments like: "we are aware and looking into it, fixes coming...soon...no eta", "there's no magic bullet to fix things over night" comment is the equivalent to the word "but", which usually nullifies everything what's been said before.
However luckily for us the servers are holding up well and everything just works, meaning there's simply no need to declare any state of emergency or even look into anything.
Also my Xbox EU account has been completely stuck now only for 1 year, 4 months and 24 days, just works!
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Gorreck✭✭✭SamanthaCarter wrote: »CAP main campain to 2 bar problem solved
It isn't.
I've had bad Cyrodill lag when the campaign had less than 1 bar on all factions - up until this year I always had reasonable performance there excpet in the biggest zergs (where it cannot reasonably be expected).0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »Why does ZOS do this to their customers?
“Money, it’s a gas / Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.”
Enough servers to handle the load costs more moolah. I expect the folks who make the budget decisions and make the Big Bucks care little about gameplay and more about “doing more with less.”1 -
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✭SweepsAllClowns wrote: »TineaCruris wrote: »Why does ZOS do this to their customers?
Profits before performance, it's that simple.
More like it's the underlying impression that players are stuck here forever. Cause any industry would like to put out bad products and charge a lot of money for it, but you can only find a hair in your hamburger so many times before you decide to eat elsewhere.“He is even worse than a n'wah. He is - may Vivec forgive me for uttering this word - a Hlaalu.”luv Abnur
luv Rigurt
luv Stibbons
'ate Ayrenn
'ate Razum-dar
'ate Khamira
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TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭I think the OP wants to know why the performance in Cyrodiil was better during Midyear mayhem with all 3 alliances pop-locked than it was just after the event with all 3 alliances at 2-3 bars. TBH I would like to know too because it doesn't really make much sense... but it's definitely how it was!
I've seen forum post saying it was the lack of ball-groups & greater amount of pugs but that's not how my experience was. I saw the same guilds/ball-groups rolling around during & after the event. I saw huge fights with more players in one area than I have seen in years during the event with much less performance issues than directly after the event.
Was it ZOS allocating extra hardware/resources during the event & taking it away again after the event? Is that what you mean by "Profits before performance"?
In short, ZOS tipped their hand and showed us how much better they can do, that they mostly CAN solve the performance issues with a single maintenance that makes changes to the servers. And that they can undo those performance improvements with a subsequent single maintenance. They've also made it clear that they are not willing to implement these performance improvements on a full time basis, even though the solution mostly worked.
If people can't figure out what is happening here after watching pre and post MYM event performance just isn't paying attention or hasn't been around long enough to know how this has been working for years.
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TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »Why does ZOS do this to their customers?
“Money, it’s a gas / Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.”
Enough servers to handle the load costs more moolah. I expect the folks who make the budget decisions and make the Big Bucks care little about gameplay and more about “doing more with less.”
..."new car, caviar, day dream...think I'll buy me a football team" GREAT SONG!
....maybe we'd all be better off if the BOD member that wanted the football team would have gotten that instead of ZOS.0