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What is the best monster set for mag dps
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Wolf81✭✭✭Ehh depends on class and encounter maw/valkyn skoria/zaan. Things such as distance to melee range/movement lots of adds vs single target fluctuate the values. Then the pvp discussion will vary as well.4 -
gatekeeper13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It depends on the content you want to complete. In most circumstances I prefer Zaan but there are bosses you cannot stay close to and have to roll dodge and avoid aoe. In such situations, Maw will perform better because you can still do DPS while trying to stay alive.1 -
Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Zaans if you're in melee range and only fighting single entities. It's also amazing in PVP duels and the like. If you're a magDK there is also the Elf Bane + Grothdarr trick you could use to get a theoretically constant uptime on the monster set. It's a lot of AoE damage.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK2 -
rexagamemnon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Zaans if you're in melee range and only fighting single entities. It's also amazing in PVP duels and the like. If you're a magDK there is also the Elf Bane + Grothdarr trick you could use to get a theoretically constant uptime on the monster set. It's a lot of AoE damage.
My magDK uses grothdar silks of sun and burning spellweave, ive known about elf bane for a while but cant decide which to swap elf bane, what would you suggest for that build?0 -
I like Zaan for Mag DK. Fire damage intensified and you should already be in melee range!0 -
RebornV3x✭✭✭✭✭
✭I use Zaan for my mag sorc manly in trials and use Maw for most content.Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.0 -
cheifsoap✭✭✭✭✭Probably Maw but as a tank i hate u all
Edit: Why? You try tanking on console with 8 daedras breathing fire everywhere. Oh why Maw? It does the most single target dps iirc. Grothdarr is also really good for AOE as well as Illambris. Between those 3, you should be good to goEdited by cheifsoap on August 5, 2020 5:46PM2 -
Blacknight841✭✭✭✭✭Probably whichever one is the WORST for mag dps.... as it will be the last one to get nerfed.Edited by Blacknight841 on August 5, 2020 5:51PM1
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✭EvilAutoTech wrote: »
Yes their guild name is Lag of the Eternal Maw2 -
SidraWillowsky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Zaan reigns supreme in terms of single-target damage. I recently got Maw but I really just don't like it, and I'm already annoyed at my warden's bear, so having a giant Daedroth is even worse. I'll take the (very small) DPS hit by not running it.
On my magwarden, Valkyn Skoria, Illambris, Nerien'eth, and Grothdarr are all comparable, though I've been working on capitalizing on the fact that our spammable hits harder the farther away you are, so Grothdarr is out. I've been sticking to Skoria... it does a lot of damage even though it's bugged, and I like the visual.0 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭on mDK zaan all the way
@TwinLamps
You running elfbane? If so, give Ilambris a hard look. I stopped running Zaan last patch. Ilambris is better in almost every encounter except maybe a target dummy.
To the OP:
Every class and fight is going to give the potential for a different answer.
Maw is very strong, but man is it annoying. I have stopped running it if more than two or three others in my group are.
Zaan is historically best single target for melee build, but if you need to break the beam from time to time, it falls fast down the list. Still don't think it works in SS, but maybe the fixed it.
Grothdar is usually the best AOE. Other than my my DK who just uses Ilambris, I swap helms for trash in trials.
Skoria is the best one piece bonus in a a lot of content if that is what you are after. If running a mythic and only have room for one piece of a monster, Skoria is likely the best bet.
Ilambris is buffed by elfbane, so on DK, i think its BIS or darn close as it works great on any boss or trash pack. Similar to zaan single target with out any drawbacks, and similar to grothdar i trash, and you dont have to stand in the middle of the pack.
Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on August 5, 2020 7:32PM2 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭rexagamemnon wrote: »Zaans if you're in melee range and only fighting single entities. It's also amazing in PVP duels and the like. If you're a magDK there is also the Elf Bane + Grothdarr trick you could use to get a theoretically constant uptime on the monster set. It's a lot of AoE damage.
My magDK uses grothdar silks of sun and burning spellweave, ive known about elf bane for a while but cant decide which to swap elf bane, what would you suggest for that build?
I ran False Gods + Elf Bane + Grothdarr. If you're not running FG, I'd probably keep the BSW on.0 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭rexagamemnon wrote: »Zaans if you're in melee range and only fighting single entities. It's also amazing in PVP duels and the like. If you're a magDK there is also the Elf Bane + Grothdarr trick you could use to get a theoretically constant uptime on the monster set. It's a lot of AoE damage.
My magDK uses grothdar silks of sun and burning spellweave, ive known about elf bane for a while but cant decide which to swap elf bane, what would you suggest for that build?
@rexagamemnon
Those are pretty dated gear sets for an MDK to be honest. You really want a trial set for the minor slayer 3 piece bonus.
Elfbane is really strong on DK because it buffs the duration of almost every skill (and certain monster sets, like ilambris and grothdar). It is a heavy armor set and a lot of the skills in question are back bar, so it effectively needs to be on your jewelry and 2 body pieces (ideally chest and legs for max resist). You run 5 light 2 heavy with elfbane. You then run a trial set of Gloves, shoes, and belt. FG works well, but honestly, you can run Siroria really well on a DK. FG is better sustain (shouldnt be an issue), and Siroria is better damage. I have gone to ilambris for almost every trial fight. If you dont want to switch gear, that is your best bet for most pulls IMO.
The real downside to Elfbane is that you are at the mercy of whatever fire staffs you have to pair it with. BSW or NMA also work here, just not as well.
-TLDR: 5 elfbane (jewel and 2 body), 5 FG or Soria (front bar weapon and 3 body), 2 piece ilambris (needs to be light armor) and back bar VMA. All Divines, Shadow mundus, bloodthirsty Jewelry. Front bar precise, back bar infused.
If you want to take it one step further, then you get into specific trash setups. Elfbane doesnt make as much sense on most trash pulls, because the bonus flame duration is often wasted. Every trash pull is different, but I think the best all around trash setup I have found is as follows. I front bar a sharp New Moon Acolyte lighting staff to maximize AOE damage, and run FG on the body. Without Elfbane, Grothdar is better in trash than ilambris. For trash, i would run infused or arcane on jewelry over bloodthirsty.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on August 5, 2020 9:00PM2 -
YandereGirlfriend✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Few ever mention Nerien'eth but it's fantastic if you use Force Pulse or Jabs as your spammable.
It's a little more than a 4k DPS tooltip which makes it basically the Magicka version of Selene's... and it does AoE damage.
It's even better now that the Health bonus has been swapped to Spell Damage.
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Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Probably Maw but as a tank i hate u all
Edit: Why? You try tanking on console with 8 daedras breathing fire everywhere. Oh why Maw? It does the most single target dps iirc. Grothdarr is also really good for AOE as well as Illambris. Between those 3, you should be good to go
They need to change that Maw set. Make it to where the Daedroth stands further back or something instead of standing right in your face so as a tank you can't see ____. It is so ___ _____ annoying. Though I try not to blame the players. I blame the developers for making it that way.Edited by Jeremy on August 6, 2020 5:52AM1 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Probably Maw but as a tank i hate u all
Edit: Why? You try tanking on console with 8 daedras breathing fire everywhere. Oh why Maw? It does the most single target dps iirc. Grothdarr is also really good for AOE as well as Illambris. Between those 3, you should be good to go
They need to change that Maw set. Make it to where the Daedroth stands further back or something instead of standing right in your face so as a tank you can't see ____. It is so ___ _____ annoying. Though I try not to blame the players. I blame the developers for making it that way.
I think the better solution is to be able to toggle the visibility of friendly pets. If the pet is not trying to kill me (or heal the guy trying to kill me), I don't need to see it. I feel so bad for tanks in the Maw meta.0 -
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✭JamieAubrey wrote: »
I pity your Tanks.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc0 -
YandereGirlfriend✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Another honorable mention to Domihaus with Elf Bane on a magDK.
Since it was fixed to work with Elf Bane you can get 100% uptime on the 300 Spell Damage, and, with 7 meter melee range, you can place the burning ring right on your enemy.0
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