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I cancelled my subscription for plus
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tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »68 days left. But will not renew. I suggest all of you subscribers do the same
Why? For what purpose?
Cutting your nose off to spite your face solves NOTHING, it's not going to alter one thing,
It's an empty gesture that only 'hurts' the player cancelling.
No I will no longer support them financially. You know Zenimax makes a huge profit each year. So they could easily sort these issues out. Loosing money is what will make them react. I've played since the beta and there has been ongoing issues all the time.4 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »
Yes. I know many people who bought Greymoor for the sole purpose of Mythic Items. Primarily Malacath or Snow Treaders for PvP, and Thrassian for PvE.
Particularly Thrassian since it is blatantly the most powerful item to ever exist in eso. 3K raw Spell Damage.
Would love to see a true poll on that.. I for one had no idea about the existence of these items, as I always do my best to avoid spoilers.. I bought it, simply because I wanted to take part in whatever new adventure they had brewed up1 -
Dovakhan✭✭✭I haven't bought Greymoor merely for the items, but I admit going after the Ring of the Wild Hunt as soon as I was able to...1
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Eldartar✭✭✭✭tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »68 days left. But will not renew. I suggest all of you subscribers do the same
Why? For what purpose?
Cutting your nose off to spite your face solves NOTHING, it's not going to alter one thing,
It's an empty gesture that only 'hurts' the player cancelling.
No I will no longer support them financially. You know Zenimax makes a huge profit each year. So they could easily sort these issues out. Loosing money is what will make them react. I've played since the beta and there has been ongoing issues all the time.
Your Sub is a drop in a very big ocean, as is mine to have any effect financially and it is delusional to think otherwise and I also have played this game since beta and still love the game. no game is perfect, it is the nature of the beast. Every MMO has it's issues, Big and small, what you have to decided is either to quit the game and move on or stay and accept that no game is perfect. I chose to stay and stick with the game I love (the good and the 'bad') playing.1 -
Fazuszek✭✭✭Im just waiting for a good MMO, that is adult themed, in rgp fantasy, with good story, mecs. Oriented towards players not, sales of some loot boxes and other crap. It will really hurt to leave a game that u invested so much, but i just cant stand the level of that crap.2
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Daemons_Bane wrote: »tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »I suggest you do you, and let me do me..
You need a girlfriend
It was a suggenstion.Lots of canceled subscriptions will force them to do something
Dating a mom with some lovely kids, so I got that covered just fine ty.. Each time something happens, you badass cancelers come out and start screaming the same *** all over again.. getting tiring
So you are a c***, that might explain why you are on this forum trying to be a "badass"1 -
ToxicOutrage✭✭✭tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »68 days left. But will not renew. I suggest all of you subscribers do the same
Why? For what purpose?
Cutting your nose off to spite your face solves NOTHING, it's not going to alter one thing,
It's an empty gesture that only 'hurts' the player cancelling.
No I will no longer support them financially. You know Zenimax makes a huge profit each year. So they could easily sort these issues out. Loosing money is what will make them react. I've played since the beta and there has been ongoing issues all the time.
Your Sub is a drop in a very big ocean, as is mine to have any effect financially and it is delusional to think otherwise and I also have played this game since beta and still love the game. no game is perfect, it is the nature of the beast. Every MMO has it's issues, Big and small, what you have to decided is either to quit the game and move on or stay and accept that no game is perfect. I chose to stay and stick with the game I love (the good and the 'bad') playing.
lol. You are assuming he is the only one cancelling after this sheetshow, which is not true. You dont give a dog a treat after it does something bad, because it would continue doing so since you would be signalling that this behavior is ok. Same applies here, Zoc dont deserve a treat.3 -
stewhead2ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I will continue my sub as long as I find it worth my $$. I still enjoy the game & don't get rattled by extended maintenance etc. You are free to do as you see fit, as will I.6 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »I will continue my sub as long as I find it worth my $$. I still enjoy the game & don't get rattled by extended maintenance etc. You are free to do as you see fit, as will I.
QFT1 -
Hurbster✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wonder how many of you defending ZoS would be saying the same if it was happening to the NA servers as well...So they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling. Except the ceiling has spikes in it now and the floor is also lava.1 -
eovogtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I cancelled mine over 3 years ago. Still waiting for performance to come back to where it was over 4 years ago, then I will renew. I still happily buy new DLC and stuff though because I enjoy the game when it runs good. Not going to pay monthly to a game company who doesnt listen.2
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✭Still haven't spent any money on this game since the beginning of 2019. Unless you have issues, It's not that big a deal playing without a sub.0 -
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✭✭stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »
Well, as you mentioned dollars I'm assuming you are NOT using the EU servers...So they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling. Except the ceiling has spikes in it now and the floor is also lava.0 -
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✭✭stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »
Well, as you mentioned dollars I'm assuming you are NOT using the EU servers...
I agree with him, and play on the EU serverEdited by Daemons_Bane on July 27, 2020 10:58PM1 -
Eldartar✭✭✭✭ToxicOutrage wrote: »tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »68 days left. But will not renew. I suggest all of you subscribers do the same
Why? For what purpose?
Cutting your nose off to spite your face solves NOTHING, it's not going to alter one thing,
It's an empty gesture that only 'hurts' the player cancelling.
No I will no longer support them financially. You know Zenimax makes a huge profit each year. So they could easily sort these issues out. Loosing money is what will make them react. I've played since the beta and there has been ongoing issues all the time.
Your Sub is a drop in a very big ocean, as is mine to have any effect financially and it is delusional to think otherwise and I also have played this game since beta and still love the game. no game is perfect, it is the nature of the beast. Every MMO has it's issues, Big and small, what you have to decided is either to quit the game and move on or stay and accept that no game is perfect. I chose to stay and stick with the game I love (the good and the 'bad') playing.
lol. You are assuming he is the only one cancelling after this sheetshow, which is not true. You dont give a dog a treat after it does something bad, because it would continue doing so since you would be signalling that this behavior is ok. Same applies here, Zoc dont deserve a treat.
I am assuming nothing of the sort here. Thousands of subscribers would have to cancel at the same time for it to be noticed.
No one has control of the unknown, in that when you add or subtract code you are never 100% sure what will happen. No one has a crystal ball that is perfect, you can't plan for every eventuality. No one and nothing is perfect, here or anywhere else.
Playing any MMO is like riding the Dragon.0 -
Dovakhan✭✭✭ToxicOutrage wrote: »tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »68 days left. But will not renew. I suggest all of you subscribers do the same
Why? For what purpose?
Cutting your nose off to spite your face solves NOTHING, it's not going to alter one thing,
It's an empty gesture that only 'hurts' the player cancelling.
No I will no longer support them financially. You know Zenimax makes a huge profit each year. So they could easily sort these issues out. Loosing money is what will make them react. I've played since the beta and there has been ongoing issues all the time.
Your Sub is a drop in a very big ocean, as is mine to have any effect financially and it is delusional to think otherwise and I also have played this game since beta and still love the game. no game is perfect, it is the nature of the beast. Every MMO has it's issues, Big and small, what you have to decided is either to quit the game and move on or stay and accept that no game is perfect. I chose to stay and stick with the game I love (the good and the 'bad') playing.
lol. You are assuming he is the only one cancelling after this sheetshow, which is not true. You dont give a dog a treat after it does something bad, because it would continue doing so since you would be signalling that this behavior is ok. Same applies here, Zoc dont deserve a treat.
I am assuming nothing of the sort here. Thousands of subscribers would have to cancel at the same time for it to be noticed.
No one has control of the unknown, in that when you add or subtract code you are never 100% sure what will happen. No one has a crystal ball that is perfect, you can't plan for every eventuality. No one and nothing is perfect, here or anywhere else.
Playing any MMO is like riding the Dragon.
It's still money lost due to incompetence. No matter how small the quantity is, no company in the world likes that. MUCH less one in the USA.
So yeah, I'd say that every little bit helps.
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✭✭✭✭Wonder how many of you defending ZoS would be saying the same if it was happening to the NA servers as well...
All Australian players laugh at your little, 1 time inconvenience.
Literally every NA maintenance is from 6pm till midnight monday night's here.
1 day a week during our "peak" the server just isn't there.
Get over yourselves and take a break for a day. Go walk your dog or something.2 -
stewhead2ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »
What kind of imature comment is that?
This is a mature answer. You have to decide if the product & service is worth your $$. No amount of whining on the forums can do that for you.1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wonder how many of you defending ZoS would be saying the same if it was happening to the NA servers as well...
I play on both, and apart from the occasional maintenance hiccup on the EU server (as has happened in the past on the NA server), both servers run equally smoothly for me. If only one is down then I can play on the other anyway, or even do something else altogether as was the case today, but as a non-competitive PvEer all the performance and skill drama passes me by, so I'll carry on happily paying my two subs. Besides, today's extended downtime was nothing compared to what's been going on with the LoTRO servers this past week or two.
If these sorts of threads resulted in a significant loss of revenue, which I don't believe for a minute they do, then there would only be one consequence, namely the laying off of staff with a consequent reduction in development and maintenance work. Those who think that a company's first response to a fall in revenue is to throw more money at the business are deluding themselves.Edited by Tandor on July 27, 2020 11:25PM1 -
Dovakhan✭✭✭Wonder how many of you defending ZoS would be saying the same if it was happening to the NA servers as well...
I play on both, and apart from the occasional maintenance hiccup on the EU server (as has happened in the past on the NA server), both servers run equally smoothly for me. If only one is down then I can play on the other anyway, or even do something else altogether as was the case today, but as a non-competitive PvEer all the performance and skill drama passes me by, so I'll carry on happily paying my two subs. Besides, today's extended downtime was nothing compared to what's been going on with the LoTRO servers this past week or two.
If these sorts of threads resulted in a significant loss of revenue, which I don't believe for a minute they do, then there would only be one consequence, namely the laying off of staff with a consequent reduction in development and maintenance work. Those who think that a company's first response to a fall in revenue is to throw more money at the business are deluding themselves.
My company's computer equipment was a complete disaster, causing a loss of administrative performance. After "throwing money" at it, we're now at peak performance, and improving a bit every day. My bosses even say that they never want to go back.
So yeah, believe it or not, sometimes it works :P
"ZOMG, BUT BUT ZENIMAX/TESO ISZ A BERI BIG COMPANYYYY!!!!" ...yes, but they also have lots of resources to scale it with :PEdited by Dovakhan on July 27, 2020 11:36PM1 -
JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Wonder how many of you defending ZoS would be saying the same if it was happening to the NA servers as well...
Of course. There has never ever been any kind of an interruption for NA servers. :goes into a fit of laughter: Knew I couldn't get through that with a straight face.
There have been interruptions in service, maintenance over-runs, and plain "server is borked" outages. Its been down for 7-8 hours, and then down again the next day because they had to hotfix what they rushed the day before.
For a month of ESO, it breaks down to $0.4996666666666667 a day. So let's round up to $0.50.
If the maintenance doesn't last a full 24 hours, what happens if its prorated? For one hour, it works out to $0.0208333333333333 .... Gee. what will people do with the huge amount of compensation they get?
If anyone is dead set on having 24 hours guaranteed access to any service, making sure computers, electrical systems, phone services, and humans have nothing to do with whatever that service might be. Because otherwise, doodoo happens that can't be predicted or controlled.0 -
Thechuckage✭✭✭✭✭tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »68 days left. But will not renew. I suggest all of you subscribers do the same
Why? For what purpose?
Cutting your nose off to spite your face solves NOTHING, it's not going to alter one thing,
It's an empty gesture that only 'hurts' the player cancelling.
No I will no longer support them financially. You know Zenimax makes a huge profit each year. So they could easily sort these issues out. Loosing money is what will make them react. I've played since the beta and there has been ongoing issues all the time.
Your Sub is a drop in a very big ocean, as is mine to have any effect financially and it is delusional to think otherwise and I also have played this game since beta and still love the game. no game is perfect, it is the nature of the beast. Every MMO has it's issues, Big and small, what you have to decided is either to quit the game and move on or stay and accept that no game is perfect. I chose to stay and stick with the game I love (the good and the 'bad') playing.
A sub is not required to play the game. Its extra money given to the company. Why should anyone give them that extra if they are not receiving goods or services up to the standard they expect?
Does it really matter if its a drop in ZoS money bucket? If nothing else its more income I can spend somewhere else, or stick it in the bank.1 -
InaMoonlight✭✭✭✭✭*skims through thread*
Yes, that's still a no. Tooodles
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x48rph✭✭✭✭✭
✭tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »68 days left. But will not renew. I suggest all of you subscribers do the same
No offense but you still have 68 day left to change your mind, 68 days before you'll actually have to deal with the consequences which will be long after this thread is dead and buried. Would be much more meaningful if you posted about it when it actually ran out.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »Daemons_Bane wrote: »I suggest you do you, and let me do me..
You need a girlfriend
It was a suggenstion.Lots of canceled subscriptions will force them to do something
Dating a mom with some lovely kids, so I got that covered just fine ty.. Each time something happens, you badass cancelers come out and start screaming the same *** all over again.. getting tiring
Yes, for me when I quit a game I quit. I do not linger in the forums without a purpose.0
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