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Bloodthirsty vs Infused

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carlos424
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If I’m reading this correctly, the most spell damage/weapon damage one can get is 250 with the proposed change to bloodthirsty. Why would I ever use that over infused now?
  • colossalvoids
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    It's a bit more dps overall but the difference would be pretty low now
  • SidraWillowsky
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    Someone should do the math, but I'm assuming that Bloodthirsty will outperform Infused on very long boss fights (vAS, for those who can't insta-delete everything). Most of the time though Infused will be BiS.

    *cries into transmute crystals*
  • CyberOnEso
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    This is how I believe it works: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sy4elgxokQUAnKUQaVOq9h6xBlsWSGgV5Hb9NfwHV18/edit?usp=sharing
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  • carlos424
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    Ok makes sense. Still not sure which one will be better. Probably pretty close to each other. Wish they wouldve just decreased bloodthirsty to 8-9% bonus. Seems like alot more calculations for the server with these changes. Was also nice that they were two totally different traits, now basically the same thing.
  • YandereGirlfriend
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    Many of the item trait and Mundus changes were quite strange indeed.

    They seem like solutions in search of a problem.
  • xF1REFL1x
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    The invigorating buff and burning spellweave nerf are confusing... no one uses either one and still won't now.
  • LuxLunae
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    I will always choose infused over bloodthirsty just because I can heal myself with spell/weapon damage that I get...it's multi purpose power...not just trash that is used for execute range.
  • Runefang
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    LuxLunae wrote: »
    I will always choose infused over bloodthirsty just because I can heal myself with spell/weapon damage that I get...it's multi purpose power...not just trash that is used for execute range.

    Even in PvE where dps is king and self heals are less important?
  • LuxLunae
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    Runefang wrote: »
    LuxLunae wrote: »
    I will always choose infused over bloodthirsty just because I can heal myself with spell/weapon damage that I get...it's multi purpose power...not just trash that is used for execute range.

    Even in PvE where dps is king and self heals are less important?

    Yes because the small edge you get is only in execute range. You still have 75%+ of the battle to do damage.

    I like my damage to be constant. Maybe others do not.

    They need to up the weapon/spell damage.
  • XxCaLxX
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    carlos424 wrote: »
    If I’m reading this correctly, the most spell damage/weapon damage one can get is 250 with the proposed change to bloodthirsty. Why would I ever use that over infused now?

    im sure ppl have tested it quite a bit, what tests ive done bloodthirsty does lil more damage. you still get the 174 spell/weapon damage on the piece of jewelry aside from the up to 250 from bloodthirsty so overall its more than infused.
  • thorwyn
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    Yes because the small edge you get is only in execute range. You still have 75%+ of the battle to do damage.

    You might want to read the PTS patch notes and re-check your statement. BT does not kick in during execute anymore, it sowly builds up after hitting the 90% hp mark.
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  • Milli_Rabbit
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    Bloodthirsty seems to be very slightly better over the course of a fight. One thing I haven't figured out is whether bloodthirsty affects healing as well or only damage to the specific target. If it doesn't affect healing, then you need to decide whether healing is more important than burning through execute faster.
  • Djennku
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    CyberOnEso wrote: »
    This is how I believe it works: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sy4elgxokQUAnKUQaVOq9h6xBlsWSGgV5Hb9NfwHV18/edit?usp=sharing


    I looked at the numbers here, and that's incorrect as far as I'm aware. It should reach the full 250 WD/SD at 25%, but please correct me if I'm wrong.
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  • Runefang
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    Djennku wrote: »
    CyberOnEso wrote: »
    This is how I believe it works: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sy4elgxokQUAnKUQaVOq9h6xBlsWSGgV5Hb9NfwHV18/edit?usp=sharing


    I looked at the numbers here, and that's incorrect as far as I'm aware. It should reach the full 250 WD/SD at 25%, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

    You’re wrong, it scales linearly from 90 through to 0. Doesn’t hit cap at 25%. Unless I’m wrong.
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