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Stop the Nerfs!
Can devs and we as a community stop asking for nerfs based on popularity of an item? The trend seems to be-gold vender sells a set-set become popular - people beg for nerf cause it's in their field of vision often or they feel they are killed often by it like pirate skeleton, zaan/elf bane, blood spawn. One thing can't be overpowered if there are other powerful pieces to counter it, just because you became aware of it doesn't mean it wasn't powerful before. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP CATERING TO CASUALS, who will only play the game a few min and leave the game to play fortnight while dedicated players who put 100s of hours in the game have to remake their builds every patch cause someone who just want to try the game complains
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Knightpanther✭✭✭✭✭
✭Its pretty obvious, they have been doing this for years.
Add nice items that everyone will want because they are OP or can be exploited, then when everyone has spent time in the game farming them/it, hit it with the nerf bat.
Rinse and repeat.
Its just the ZOS way that many of us have seen through for a while now.
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FatherDelve✭✭✭Sorry OP, you are totally wrong. Especially those "Fortnite Insta Gratification" Players are those that profit the most from overtuned sets. There is a reason why every zergling is running Hunters Venom actually.
And if you need a certain set, build, skill to perform well in PvP, you're maybe not as good as you think you are.9 -
Zaximus✭To be honest no one is good in this game all you need is a OP set and everyone thinks your so good at the game this is because the skills in this game is just to easy and dont also forget the guys that plays on discord and yelling everyone do ultis NOW and kills all the zergs even they think they are good but they are actually not they are using the communication to there advantage with OP sets...For ex Sypher was he really that good or did he just have a OP set i mean think about it...I tried his set you just needed to press 2 buttons and a guy is dead so tell me where is the skills?2 -
p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭DemonicEssense wrote: »Can devs and we as a community stop asking for nerfs based on popularity of an item? The trend seems to be-gold vender sells a set-set become popular - people beg for nerf cause it's in their field of vision often or they feel they are killed often by it like pirate skeleton, zaan/elf bane, blood spawn. One thing can't be overpowered if there are other powerful pieces to counter it, just because you became aware of it doesn't mean it wasn't powerful before. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP CATERING TO CASUALS, who will only play the game a few min and leave the game to play fortnight while dedicated players who put 100s of hours in the game have to remake their builds every patch cause someone who just want to try the game complains
I see posts like yours since the release of the game in 2014. By not changing your sets between patches means absolutely nothing. Something that worked before is working now albeit there are some cases like the Veiled Heritance set. If you chase the "which set is more broken" after each patch then you are the one having the issue which is coming from the WoW structure. Before that cancerous game that killed the MMORPG genre, none gave a sht. It was all about skills, tactics and not about what type of gear you used.
Also that "must have best gear" addiction killed other games predating WoW with same idiotic implementation of such crap.
And as example I will refer to TFS + VO set combination. It worked 5y ago and works today and is far better than many proc sets that rely on timers and mechanics that the masses do not understand how they work (eg Relequen, Lokestiiz) and not working 90% of the time and especially in PUGs.2 -
holden_caulfield✭✭✭To be honest no one is good in this game all you need is a OP set and everyone thinks your so good at the game this is because the skills in this game is just to easy and dont also forget the guys that plays on discord and yelling everyone do ultis NOW and kills all the zergs even they think they are good but they are actually not they are using the communication to there advantage with OP sets...For ex Sypher was he really that good or did he just have a OP set i mean think about it...I tried his set you just needed to press 2 buttons and a guy is dead so tell me where is the skills?
I disagree. With trial and errors i build an average to good char for bg. really Good players are still something else. Their timing and skill used are always the perfect choice to make me eat ***.
But ohhh the joy to fight a player that has no clue
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Luede✭✭✭✭✭To be honest no one is good in this game all you need is a OP set and everyone thinks your so good at the game this is because the skills in this game is just to easy and dont also forget the guys that plays on discord and yelling everyone do ultis NOW and kills all the zergs even they think they are good but they are actually not they are using the communication to there advantage with OP sets...For ex Sypher was he really that good or did he just have a OP set i mean think about it...I tried his set you just needed to press 2 buttons and a guy is dead so tell me where is the skills?
then your opponent was probably as new to pvp as you are.1 -
Zaximus✭To be honest no one is good in this game all you need is a OP set and everyone thinks your so good at the game this is because the skills in this game is just to easy and dont also forget the guys that plays on discord and yelling everyone do ultis NOW and kills all the zergs even they think they are good but they are actually not they are using the communication to there advantage with OP sets...For ex Sypher was he really that good or did he just have a OP set i mean think about it...I tried his set you just needed to press 2 buttons and a guy is dead so tell me where is the skills?
then your opponent was probably as new to pvp as you are.
Im not new to pvp and id beat you with a OP set anyday and you know it if you think OP sets has nothing to do with it and skills is everything in this game then come on take a ordenary set ill take the OP set and fight you lets see who wins...1 -
Zer0_CooL✭✭✭✭✭
✭DemonicEssense wrote: »
The downside is marginal, since your healing gets buffed with your increased spell damage. And yes i want. Its rediculously OP pay to win.2 -
Luede✭✭✭✭✭To be honest no one is good in this game all you need is a OP set and everyone thinks your so good at the game this is because the skills in this game is just to easy and dont also forget the guys that plays on discord and yelling everyone do ultis NOW and kills all the zergs even they think they are good but they are actually not they are using the communication to there advantage with OP sets...For ex Sypher was he really that good or did he just have a OP set i mean think about it...I tried his set you just needed to press 2 buttons and a guy is dead so tell me where is the skills?
then your opponent was probably as new to pvp as you are.
Im not new to pvp and id beat you with a OP set anyday and you know it if you think OP sets has nothing to do with it and skills is everything in this game then come on take a ordenary set ill take the OP set and fight you lets see who wins...
Of course certain set combinations have their share, but you can give 100 pvp inexperienced players the optimal class with the optimal sets and I will kill every one of these hundred players in 10 seconds and if you had any idea about pvp you would know this.Edited by Luede on July 13, 2020 9:45AM2 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Sorry but terassian needs a nerf. Aswell as harmony bombs.
i think its ok, the down side of an extra 40% incoming damage is huge, in pvp getting to that point is hard in pvp and if you do you will go down quick with how pvp is play nowadaysMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike2 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »
Your healing doesn't get buffed cause you also have 40% healing decreased by having it on you also lose a 5 piece or 2 piece monster slot and did I mention this is a MYTHIC piece? Also are you dying from this to warrant it being nerfed? Who is getting 20 kills in pvp to make this useful? In trial unless you are some God of mechanics and wearing this you're either not benefiting from it cause you're not getting killing blows or you are being kicked from the trials group for dying too much get real troll3 -
RobZha✭✭✭Nerf ravage health poisons.
Nerf lag.
Nerf cat men that eat flowers.
Nerf kwama water it gets me too drunk.
Buff guars and allow them to try for emp in cyro.1 -
Xologamer✭✭✭✭DemonicEssense wrote: »
that item is kinda balanced in it self BUT it kills all staminas cause they just dont have somethimk like this so u want find any stamina in a end game group atm0 -
Alienoutlaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sorry but terassian needs a nerf. Aswell as harmony bombs.
with 40% increased damage and 40% healing reduction at full stack (with is reset on crouch or death) and only gains stacks from personal kills not group kills i fail to see how it needs a nerf, it is a mythic item and ment to be high reward high risk. and very hard to to keep a full stack for any serious length of time in cyrodiil as more often than not your taking huge damage and dead far more than someone without it.
it is fine as it is1 -
Moonsorrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nerfs and requests for them happen as long as there are people with just 1 character, "main" or favourite.. and thus those kind of players always demand nerfs to anything that somehow counters or is a hard class/spec opponent to their main/favourite they play the most..
..thus, nerf requests are endless. And sadly ZOS often can listen to the wrong people. Since too many players with common logic has given up on even trying to debate with these people that just want to make their Main stronger and nerf everyone else.
Hardly ever people who play all classes ask for nerfs (unless its universally agreed thing like having Major Defile on Blastbones, when it was removed/nerfed from most other "easy" choices, while Stamcro can spam it everytime previous is gone) since they understand the big picture that all classes have their own couple "cheese" skills that counter a cheese skill from some other class.
But that simple fact is not understood by many these days, sadly. When Class Rep meeting notes were still published in the open, it was clear ZOS also did not listen to the Class Reps that much also.. and thus the Audit that made us go up and down merry goes round for like 1,5 years with skills/gear changing from one extreme to other in short 3 months cycles.
*shrugs*
It is what it is.
Still, they have done many good things also, but those tend to be forgotten often under some big negative things. So i remind about that to myself too and try always to stay positive. But, i fear the PTS patch notes.. that when reading them i will go facepalming again more than smiling. This is a rare game in that here we fear new updates, in other games people mostly are happy and waiting for cool fun stuff to come. Here we often get a spanking from Santa even if we have been good lil girls and boys.
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Tammany✭✭✭✭Disallow khajit race players to steal someone's siege weapons.
Each time i leave my siege to dodge incoming aoe a khajit nightblade appears and grabs it.Edited by Tammany on July 13, 2020 12:48PM8 -
Ri_Khan✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about they just stop adding p2w gear every dlc and balance the freakin game already?!
Edit: after reading the notes, this does not seem to be the case. I'm actually surprised and impressed with the preposed changes. Not what I was expecting!Edited by Ri_Khan on July 14, 2020 1:39AM0 -
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✭✭To be honest no one is good in this game all you need is a OP set and everyone thinks your so good at the game this is because the skills in this game is just to easy and dont also forget the guys that plays on discord and yelling everyone do ultis NOW and kills all the zergs even they think they are good but they are actually not they are using the communication to there advantage with OP sets...For ex Sypher was he really that good or did he just have a OP set i mean think about it...I tried his set you just needed to press 2 buttons and a guy is dead so tell me where is the skills?
then your opponent was probably as new to pvp as you are.
Im not new to pvp and id beat you with a OP set anyday and you know it if you think OP sets has nothing to do with it and skills is everything in this game then come on take a ordenary set ill take the OP set and fight you lets see who wins...
most PvP players will tell you that "OP" sets are meaningless and most of us play with off "meta" builds, we spend hours fine tuning cp allocation to maximise skill damage and mitigation, we have simple bar set ups for huge burst damage (a prolonged fight is never a good fight) what you wear is 10% of what is needed to be a consistently good player, knowledge of player tactics, Rotation prediction, situational awareness are just a few things a good player takes time to learn and improve. and the golden rule in PvP is as it always as been "there is always someone better than you"3 -
Moonsorrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Disallow khajit race players to steal someone's siege weapons.
Each time i leave my siege to dodge incoming aoe a khajit nightblade appears and grabs it.
Idk why but i laughed way too hard to that.
Maybe because it is true, yesterday a khajiit (not sure if NB though) took my siege when i dodged a firepot Treb on top of Nikel.. hmm..0 -
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✭@Alienoutlaw
In cyrodiil it almost does not matter since lag and numbers decide most fights. But try it in IC where you've got plenty of NPCs to get the stacks. Best on a magplar, with Imperial physic. You'll be unkillable
The "downside" only comes to play in group PvE, where you don't heal yourself. In PvP 3k spell damage increases your healing done massivly. So the healing reduction is rather keeping healing on the same level while your damage goes up through the roof.
And 3k spell damage on 1 set piece is rediculously OP.0 -
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✭TequilaFire wrote: »I blame players who like nerfs instead of getting better.
This^
nice @TequilaFireEdited by xXMeowMeowXx on July 13, 2020 4:13PM3 -
imno007b14_ESO✭✭✭ESO motto: "If you really like it, we'll nerf it" (and leave you with a whole bunch of so-so-choices). 3
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HalvarIronfist✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »I blame players who like nerfs instead of getting better.
No no, It's the games fault for being OP rather than you learning to counter things!0
