AoE taunt

areeb14_ESO

I'd hoped that returning after over a year's absence there would be a taunt that is an AoE, Cone like a shout, or sphere around me. Something.
So I'm asking for it here in the forums.

If you support this idea, +1 or words or whatever to show you support it.

Kadoin

Sure, after they add an easy mode button...

Kavar162

Not sure if it works, but could you use tormentor set with an aoe charge attack?

ZeroXFF

areeb14_ESO wrote: »

I'd hoped that returning after over a year's absence there would be a taunt that is an AoE, Cone like a shout, or sphere around me. Something.
So I'm asking for it here in the forums.

If you support this idea, +1 or words or whatever to show you support it.

Tormentor set + explosive charge on templar or the leap ulti on DK.

Jerkling

Why would anyone need an AoE taunt? Every class can use some form of CC and a grapple ability for trash, and for bosses you don't need one anyways.

idk

An AoE taunt has not been added to the game because an AoE taunt is not needed for any PvE content in the game.

areeb14_ESO

Until you get that one guy who dashes to other groups in a Vet dungeon and pulls them back on you. Leaving you unable to grab the 12+ enemies who are chasing around the other 2 players.

Edit: Wait, tormentor is an AoE taunt?

caperb

No.

ccfeeling

Kavar162 wrote: »

Not sure if it works, but could you use tormentor set with an aoe charge attack?

Tooltips was wrong , it didn't work .

areeb14_ESO

Well that's that. I learned it won't proc with LightningEscape morph. So it's useless to me since I play only Sorc for the summons.

Darkenarlol

for aoe taunts you have wow

for gameplay - eso

you are free to choose what you like

dhboy123

No because ESO don't care about tank content.

Dusk_Coven

Without adding any new skills, they could add an aggro dump function to one skill for every class. And make sure it doesn't work if you are set in the Group Finder as a Tank -- so, among other things, fake tanks will "have" to tank...

Elwendryll

Tormentor on explosive charge does work.
So only Templar.

But again. Even if I had an AOE taunt I wouldn't slot it.

thorwyn

An AoE taunt has not been added to the game because an AoE taunt is not needed for any PvE content in the game.

Exactly this. There is absolutely no need for an AOE taunt whatsoever. DD's and healers are not as squishy as they are in other MMO's, they don't just fall over after getting one hit from a random mob. PLUS they can still cast while being attacked, so there is no need to taunt everything away from them.

dhboy123

Can't even remember that last time they added a new skill lol...

idk

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Without adding any new skills, they could add an aggro dump function to one skill for every class. And make sure it doesn't work if you are set in the Group Finder as a Tank -- so, among other things, fake tanks will "have" to tank...

There would be no point to adding an agro dump to any skills. The agro table does not work like it does in WoW.

kargen27

dhboy123 wrote: »

No because ESO don't care about tank content.

I disagree. I can't help but think how boring tanking could be if we could AoE taunt. Having to range taunt archers and other evil doers is one of the fun parts of being a tank. Would be extremely boring to saunter into a room, throw down a cone then hold block for a while.

Tommy_The_Gun

ZeroXFF wrote: »

areeb14_ESO wrote: »

I'd hoped that returning after over a year's absence there would be a taunt that is an AoE, Cone like a shout, or sphere around me. Something.
So I'm asking for it here in the forums.

If you support this idea, +1 or words or whatever to show you support it.

Tormentor set + explosive charge on templar or the leap ulti on DK.

Yep, it works. Also as far I know Stampede and WW Brutal Pounce should also do it, but it is bugged and confirmed by ZOS.

grandfunk15

Taunts skills don't have cooldowns in ESO. I think that's one reason you won't see an AoE taunt added. You can already just spam ranged taunt to grab the few mobs that absolutely must get tanked.

As Kargen mentioned, trying to taunt everything is optional work that can make tanking more challenging/rewarding.

Curious_Death

aoe taunt = bot amount increased by 1000%

Joxer61

the amount of fake tanks that have no taunt nor clue adding an aoe one would do no good. also, why?

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

As mentioned above, a Templar can gain access to a real, working AoE taunt by wearing the Tormentor set and using the Explosive Charge morph of Focused charge (Third skill in the Aedric Spear skill line). It's a niche build, not really useful for trials or veteran DLC dungeons, but it does make it possible to taunt absolutely everything in sight. I can recommend trying it for fun. However, I can testify from personal experience that the game is not designed around that kind of tanking and does not require it. You will end up holding a lot more aggro than people expect, and needing quite a lot of heals (either from yourself or from a healer) to make up for the amount of beating you take from having a dozen mobs pummeling you all at once. Most mobs are weak, but they can make up for that in numbers...

Ozby

areeb14_ESO wrote: »

Until you get that one guy who dashes to other groups in a Vet dungeon and pulls them back on you. Leaving you unable to grab the 12+ enemies who are chasing around the other 2 players.

Edit: Wait, tormentor is an AoE taunt?

I hear you buddy, as a fellow Tank who does rando vets I've seen everything and a lot of those kind of players just do not get it at all and are most likely kicked a lot from dungeons and trials and probably do not care either. I asked one guy once politely to let me pull the bosses and Trash was fine and he told me to pull his ***. There's just no team work or etiquette.

TineaCruris

An aoe taunt would give the tank way too much control over the fight, and we'd probably see a whole lot more untauntable mobs like in Kynes Aegis if one existed.

LadyNalcarya

Ozby wrote: »

areeb14_ESO wrote: »

Until you get that one guy who dashes to other groups in a Vet dungeon and pulls them back on you. Leaving you unable to grab the 12+ enemies who are chasing around the other 2 players.

Edit: Wait, tormentor is an AoE taunt?

I hear you buddy, as a fellow Tank who does rando vets I've seen everything and a lot of those kind of players just do not get it at all and are most likely kicked a lot from dungeons and trials and probably do not care either. I asked one guy once politely to let me pull the bosses and Trash was fine and he told me to pull his ***. There's just no team work or etiquette.

Adding aoe taunt would not make them more polite nor would it solve their dps issues (and if trash doesnt die fast, there are issues).
That's just how it is, and that's why I don't pug on tank or healer.

what_the

areeb14_ESO wrote: »

Until you get that one guy who dashes to other groups in a Vet dungeon and pulls them back on you.

That's a Learn To Play issue.

Ferrym4n

Ozby wrote: »

areeb14_ESO wrote: »

Until you get that one guy who dashes to other groups in a Vet dungeon and pulls them back on you. Leaving you unable to grab the 12+ enemies who are chasing around the other 2 players.

Edit: Wait, tormentor is an AoE taunt?

I hear you buddy, as a fellow Tank who does rando vets I've seen everything and a lot of those kind of players just do not get it at all and are most likely kicked a lot from dungeons and trials and probably do not care either. I asked one guy once politely to let me pull the bosses and Trash was fine and he told me to pull his ***. There's just no team work or etiquette.

No Team Work or Etiquette, is sadly true, too often.

Joxer61

TineaCruris wrote: »

An aoe taunt would give the tank way too much control over the fight, and we'd probably see a whole lot more untauntable mobs like in Kynes Aegis if one existed.

thats a silly comment...Tank does control the fight, or should. But aoe taunt just isnt needed, period. Unless you really really suck.....

Alidel

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

As mentioned above, a Templar can gain access to a real, working AoE taunt by wearing the Tormentor set and using the Explosive Charge morph of Focused charge (Third skill in the Aedric Spear skill line). It's a niche build, not really useful for trials or veteran DLC dungeons, but it does make it possible to taunt absolutely everything in sight. I can recommend trying it for fun.

Would it work with stampede? Or ww pounce?

VaranisArano

Absolutely not in favor without a dungeon overhaul. ESO's dungeons are not designed for this as they are intended for the Healer and Damage Dealers to deal with some of the aggro from mobs.

Adding this would require a full redesign of dungeons to make it so that gameplay wasn't reduced to the tank holding permablock while the healer keeps them alive and the DDs melt stuff with impunity. That gameplay is boring.