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How To Fix Templar

West93
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Give back major mending.

  • butterrum222
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    How to fix Templar, bring back proc set crits
  • West93
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    Increase jesus beam damage by 21%, reduce cost of ritual by 50%
  • Sanguinor2
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    Bring back total dark reflecting dawnbreakers.
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  • MurderMostFoul
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    Bring back major protection on empowering sweep.
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  • Kadoin
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    Why bring back major mending when you can get both minor and major mending on templar? I can't even understand how that would be a buff vs. now, but whatever...
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Bring back Blinding Flashes :D
  • Firstmep
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    I'd settle for living dark not snarling anymore but reduce the cost and make it scale with highest stats. Also remove the bubble effect it just looks wrong.
  • Ishtharo
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    I'd be happy with Templar having a class sorce of major Sorcerery/Brutality
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  • xaraan
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    I do have to say, my templars feel horrible this patch compared to my other classes. Breath of life with the skill nerfs over the years and now the healing hit in pvp increased it heals horribly. Not having any great CCs on par with things like fossilize and fear means you can't kill anyone with any decent mobility. And all the other tweaks combined with the overall pvp tweaks have really hurt the class.
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  • coercer02neb18_ESO
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    [Snip] I am killing it as Templar in no cp. Run two builds - one high damage with thrassisan, another tanky/melee with malacath. Always top of BG charts. Took a few weeks of adjustments but it’s doable. It certainly underperforms in comparison to magsorcs with 75 billion pets and stamdens and stamcros but it’s not too far behind.

    [Edited for bait]
    Edited by ZOS_Volpe on July 4, 2020 1:12PM
  • Soris
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    Sanguinor2 wrote: »
    Bring back total dark reflecting dawnbreakers.
    Bring back total dark reflecting talons.

    ftfy :trollface:
    Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]
  • StarOfElyon
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    Turn one of our heals into a HOT. That would be a step in the right direction.
  • Abyssmol
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    xaraan wrote: »
    I do have to say, my templars feel horrible this patch compared to my other classes. Breath of life with the skill nerfs over the years and now the healing hit in pvp increased it heals horribly. Not having any great CCs on par with things like fossilize and fear means you can't kill anyone with any decent mobility. And all the other tweaks combined with the overall pvp tweaks have really hurt the class.

    Well, fighting against a highly mobile player in this lag, you'd be lucky if you hit the target with sweeps/jabs. The full damage (4 ticks) of jabs do not register often..
  • Joy_Division
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    You know you're playing an awesome class when you hit Breath of Life and get a 4K heal.
  • Firstmep
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    You know you're playing an awesome class when you hit Breath of Life and get a 4K heal.

    Don't worry stamplar isn't much better, at least in no cp.
    Meanwhile my warden has 3-4 different class hots to chose from.
  • Akinos
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    Bring back Blinding Flashes :D

    Bring back Blazing Shield too!
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  • Starlight_Knight
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    Add a hp based heal so we can tank again.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Let's see how they adjust Burning Light on the PTS.

    I'm not optimisitic.
  • Soris
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    I think they should bring back blazing shield spam in general, given that healing is officially crappy for both magicka and stamina builds.
    And I think maybe the history is recreating itself. Healing wasn't great back then like today, but templars had skills like blazing shield and blinding flashes that allowed them to mitigate lots of damage before healing(year 2014/15). We might as well go on the same route again.

    A higher percentage health based shield that costs either magicka or stamina depending on the morph would be great. Sure it would require a valuable skill slot in today's templar builds but that would be the trade-off for having such a good proactive defence.
    Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]
  • Abyssmol
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    I was playing pvp tonight on my mag templar and i got heal twice by a sorc for over 8k burst heal each time.- non-crit. How the hell a sorc can burst heal for more than a templar in pvp?
  • StarOfElyon
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    Turn one of our heals into a HOT. That would be a step in the right direction.

    Nope. They did the opposite. Ritual of Retribution lost its heal. This coming patch is an undeniable L for Templars.
  • West93
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    Pretty stupid change, if ZOS doesn't want 25% chance to proc burning light, why make it only jab-centric (4 strikes in a second)?

    There are ranged magplar builds with dark flare and javelin for example, now they can't proc burning light anymore from javelin?

    I would rather make it proc burning light on every hit with a longer cooldown (2-3 seconds?)
  • StarOfElyon
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    Can't even proc on Radiant Ward now.
  • West93
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    If burning light is only jabs, then make it into jab tooltip and give us new passive in its place.
  • KuroyukiESO
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    West93 wrote: »
    Give back major mending.

    In this current meta, I think this is totally justifiable. Without MM Magplar, and to a lesse extend stamplar, are really really REALLY struggling in the survivability department. Now, while I know that is kind of the point of this patch, it just isn't really fair. Every other class has their way of surviving. Stam dk though massive healing, Warden through massive healing, Necro through raw damage reduction and pretty decent healing as well, nighblades with mobility and cloak.

    What does templar have? Okay at best healing, and a cleanse. That's it. It's time to bring back major mending.
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  • West93
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    West93 wrote: »
    Give back major mending.

    In this current meta, I think this is totally justifiable. Without MM Magplar, and to a lesse extend stamplar, are really really REALLY struggling in the survivability department. Now, while I know that is kind of the point of this patch, it just isn't really fair. Every other class has their way of surviving. Stam dk though massive healing, Warden through massive healing, Necro through raw damage reduction and pretty decent healing as well, nighblades with mobility and cloak.

    What does templar have? Okay at best healing, and a cleanse. That's it. It's time to bring back major mending.

    Pvp is ESO minority and templar pvp mains is minority in pvp, no one will listen for these changes. Welcome being minority in a minority.

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  • pauld1_ESO
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    Just laughing at you all thinking it needs a "fix" in a buff way. You bored with your one spam you kill me with over and over in pvp?
  • Firstmep
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    pauld1_ESO wrote: »
    Just laughing at you all thinking it needs a "fix" in a buff way. You bored with your one spam you kill me with over and over in pvp?

    If you die to pure jabs spam, than its a you problem.
  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    Just major mending in circle would be decent enough.
    Rhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
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  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    I mean, dk has mending and 12% from passives...
    Rhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
    K-Hole
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