Door abuse in pvp

Aleinzzs

I get it's midyear mayhem, but it's a little absurd that people are able to use doors while in combat. I've had multiple people camp a keep by just popping out almost dying and popping back in the door.

Tis a very absurd mechanic to abuse.

Hämähäkki

Just dot em up....dot...dot...dead

Zer0_CooL

No its a good thing finaly the doors work as intended. Why should someone not be able to use a door only because he's been hit by a sword?

Ectheliontnacil

Being able to retreat into a keep while in combat is one of the most important advantages the defending alliance has when under siege.

If you removed this mechanic sieges would become super boring, all people would do is stand on the walls and spam siege, because they wouldn't be able to get back in.

(Also if you're stuck in combat you now have to wait 10 mins before you can use a transitus shrine in the keep?)

Bucky_13

This is working as intended, unlike a lot of other things in Cyrodiil. This is a weird thing to complain about.

idk

Hämähäkki wrote: »

Just dot em up....dot...dot...dead

This.

It is intended that we can go through keep doors we own while in combat. This is not PvE. Kill the player before the try to enter. Stun them if they do try to return to the keep.

ZaroktheImmortal

Aleinzzs wrote: »

I get it's midyear mayhem, but it's a little absurd that people are able to use doors while in combat. I've had multiple people camp a keep by just popping out almost dying and popping back in the door.

Tis a very absurd mechanic to abuse.

Can you use doors when hit recently? In my experience doors won't open if you've taken damage recently.

Bergzorn

This goes straight to the top ten of all threads I've read during the last six months. Have an awesome.

Sephyr

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idk

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Aleinzzs wrote: »

I get it's midyear mayhem, but it's a little absurd that people are able to use doors while in combat. I've had multiple people camp a keep by just popping out almost dying and popping back in the door.

Tis a very absurd mechanic to abuse.

Can you use doors when hit recently? In my experience doors won't open if you've taken damage recently.

Keep doors for keeps your alliance owns can be entered while getting attacked. The experience you are talking about is PvE related. That may include some doors in Cyrodiil, but not with owned keeps.

ZaroktheImmortal

idk wrote: »

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Aleinzzs wrote: »

I get it's midyear mayhem, but it's a little absurd that people are able to use doors while in combat. I've had multiple people camp a keep by just popping out almost dying and popping back in the door.

Tis a very absurd mechanic to abuse.

Can you use doors when hit recently? In my experience doors won't open if you've taken damage recently.

Keep doors for keeps your alliance owns can be entered while getting attacked. The experience you are talking about is PvE related. That may include some doors in Cyrodiil, but not with owned keeps.

Oh yeah, you're right. I just forgot that this was a thing.

Tryxus

ZaroktheImmortal

Artorias24

In my experience players who i am attacking enter keeps Doors while jumping, being stunned or while mounted.

When i try to enter a door i spend 4 minutes looking at the door and pressing E like a Mad man. When i am finally in i instantly get ported out again cause i spammed the E button......

Dont know how other ppl enter doors while they are stunned

Bucky_13

Sephyr wrote: »

Bucky_13 wrote: »

This is working as intended, unlike a lot of other things in Cyrodiil. This is a weird thing to complain about.

Agreed. [snip] It's not hard to kill someone trying to get back in the keep unless you're hitting like a wet noodle.

Indeed, placing traps in front of doors in keep sieges is also a fun thing to do. Love when a bomber appears thru the gate, flies into the air and then dies.

Dusk_Coven

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

No its a good thing finaly the doors work as intended. Why should someone not be able to use a door only because he's been hit by a sword?

Maybe because it doesn't work like that elsewhere in the game. I believe there's even a tooltip that says you have to be not-hit for several seconds before you can escape through a door. So, you know, Guards in towns actually have a chance to catch players who botched their crime run.

When something works differently elsewhere in the game, obviously there will be confusion about what is working "as intended" or not.

ZaroktheImmortal

Bucky_13 wrote: »

Sephyr wrote: »

Bucky_13 wrote: »

This is working as intended, unlike a lot of other things in Cyrodiil. This is a weird thing to complain about.

Agreed. It also sounds like a L2P issue. It's not hard to kill someone trying to get back in the keep unless you're hitting like a wet noodle.

Indeed, placing traps in front of doors in keep sieges is also a fun thing to do. Love when a bomber appears thru the gate, flies into the air and then dies.

Volcanic Rune? That is a fun one to play with.

Aleinzzs

some insight on what happened so yall can understand the situation a lil better.


was on my stamblade, fighting another stamblade, he'd pop out the front door, come for the fight, the second he hits 50% he beelines for the door, gets in instantly, even if i hit him with a stun, pops a couple heals/potion comes out rinse and repeat, i finally got him with a few lucky crits on bow and incap, but thats besides the point.

I guess i dont understand how you're able to work the door in combat. especially since as repeated earlier, somehow ill sit there for 10 seconds spamming the door button and it wont let me in. im not saying that it's not working as intended, im more curious to the ability at which he can do it, and why others are able to do it in combat.

i mean the cheesiness of fighitng like that is pretty cancerous but i wasn't gonna get into that yet

Aleinzzs

I'm only like 4 weeks into real pvp, other than the random bg or pve runs while i got setup in the game so it was weird that im stunning him and he's still getting in but a fly farting on me makes it so bad that i generally die then go in the door.

nemvar

This is an intended mechanic. You could always use keep doors while in combat.
Maybe just don't engage with them if they have a favorable position, such as a safe retreat place in the form of a keep.

It makes sense that you get an advantage for fighting in friendly terrain and it's absurd to describe sitting in your own turf as "camping".

NupidStoob

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

No its a good thing finaly the doors work as intended. Why should someone not be able to use a door only because he's been hit by a sword?

Do they? I had quite many double door bugs this event.

ZaroktheImmortal

nemvar wrote: »

This is an intended mechanic. You could always use keep doors while in combat.
Maybe just don't engage with them if they have a favorable position, such as a safe retreat place in the form of a keep.

It makes sense that you get an advantage for fighting in friendly terrain and it's absurd to describe sitting in your own turf as "camping".

Well as someone said you can always lay down a trap.

Hämähäkki

Aleinzzs wrote: »

some insight on what happened so yall can understand the situation a lil better.


was on my stamblade, fighting another stamblade, he'd pop out the front door, come for the fight, the second he hits 50% he beelines for the door, gets in instantly, even if i hit him with a stun, pops a couple heals/potion comes out rinse and repeat, i finally got him with a few lucky crits on bow and incap, but thats besides the point.

I guess i dont understand how you're able to work the door in combat. especially since as repeated earlier, somehow ill sit there for 10 seconds spamming the door button and it wont let me in. im not saying that it's not working as intended, im more curious to the ability at which he can do it, and why others are able to do it in combat.

i mean the cheesiness of fighitng like that is pretty cancerous but i wasn't gonna get into that yet

Maybe he just got his shadow up standing inside the keep and was just porting back to it all the time?

I used to do that on my MagBlade, shadow standing on the wall, I jumped down attacked some folks and teleported right back up.

finehair

I mean that's the whole point of being the defender on a siege i guess? You can retreat back inside whenever you are having a hard time?
Also doors in cyrodiil are kind of RNG; they could work on your first try, they might not work at all, they might not work at all while you are getting whacked by 10 guys but as soon as you die your character casually enters the keep or you could go in and out because friggin door over worked.

Tranquilizer

Hämähäkki wrote: »

Aleinzzs wrote: »

some insight on what happened so yall can understand the situation a lil better.


was on my stamblade, fighting another stamblade, he'd pop out the front door, come for the fight, the second he hits 50% he beelines for the door, gets in instantly, even if i hit him with a stun, pops a couple heals/potion comes out rinse and repeat, i finally got him with a few lucky crits on bow and incap, but thats besides the point.

I guess i dont understand how you're able to work the door in combat. especially since as repeated earlier, somehow ill sit there for 10 seconds spamming the door button and it wont let me in. im not saying that it's not working as intended, im more curious to the ability at which he can do it, and why others are able to do it in combat.

i mean the cheesiness of fighitng like that is pretty cancerous but i wasn't gonna get into that yet

Maybe he just got his shadow up standing inside the keep and was just porting back to it all the time?

This, or s/he was using the snow treaders and elude.

biminirwb17_ESO

I abuse doors often, especially when I appear outside of them after I entered

$$%^^&**ing Door

red_emu

It's already near impossible to enter a keep when chased by an angry mob.

You approach the door, press E and nothing happens. So you press E again, and again and again and again.

Finally game transports you behind the door only to pop you back out half a second later straight into the arms of a zerg.

Aleinzzs

Hämähäkki wrote: »

Aleinzzs wrote: »

some insight on what happened so yall can understand the situation a lil better.


was on my stamblade, fighting another stamblade, he'd pop out the front door, come for the fight, the second he hits 50% he beelines for the door, gets in instantly, even if i hit him with a stun, pops a couple heals/potion comes out rinse and repeat, i finally got him with a few lucky crits on bow and incap, but thats besides the point.

I guess i dont understand how you're able to work the door in combat. especially since as repeated earlier, somehow ill sit there for 10 seconds spamming the door button and it wont let me in. im not saying that it's not working as intended, im more curious to the ability at which he can do it, and why others are able to do it in combat.

i mean the cheesiness of fighitng like that is pretty cancerous but i wasn't gonna get into that yet

Maybe he just got his shadow up standing inside the keep and was just porting back to it all the time?

I used to do that on my MagBlade, shadow standing on the wall, I jumped down attacked some folks and teleported right back up.

nah he was just running in and out. was annoying as ***. but if that's legit then it's legit. I get the whole defender argument people are using, but even then it's still pretty damn cheesy. shouldn't be going in doors while stunned. thats the whole explanation behind it. no movement. lol

Aleinzzs

finehair wrote: »

I mean that's the whole point of being the defender on a siege i guess? You can retreat back inside whenever you are having a hard time?
Also doors in cyrodiil are kind of RNG; they could work on your first try, they might not work at all, they might not work at all while you are getting whacked by 10 guys but as soon as you die your character casually enters the keep or you could go in and out because friggin door over worked.

that was the other question. i get hit by one person and i cant use doors, but he did it perfectly. guess they were halfway decent for once... still absurd though, going through a door while stunned shouldnt happen lol.

relentless_turnip

https://youtu.be/4Be18-FU9SI

Didn't work out so well for me 😂 no we do not need to nerf doors 👍

Sephyr

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