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I've been lurking on the forums a bit, and for the first time in a very, very long time I'm seeing people lauding performance in Cyrodiil. Cyrodiil. And ZOS's comment on more community communication has me carefully optimistic.

Last time I played was during update 26 (or whatever the big 'performance overhaul' pre Greymoor was), and it was atrocious. Simply atrocious.
Battlegrounds and Dungeons were probably my favourite things in ESO (overland has been meh since OT), but I also like Cyrodiil - nothing I've ever experienced in another MMO/game-in-general even comes close. So I'll ask
  • Is performance (bar swapping, blocking) still so clunky that even instance 4-man dungeons feel awkward?
  • Is Cyrodiil still "turn based, with a random chance of skills actually firing"?
  • Are people now confident that it will at least get better?

NB/Disclaimer: This isn't an angry "Fix your **** ZOS!"-post. There's a reason I come back to ESO; because for all its faults its still loads better than other MMOs I've tried/looked at - when it works, it just happens that it often doesn't. And I feel sorry for ZOS - it's not like they mean for it to be performing so badly, I'm 100% sure they genuinely thought update 26 would improve performance - it didn't and that's lamentable, but I'll concede, to some degree, that "it's the thought that counts".

(It's vacation time, and I finally have free time - in abundance, which is why I'm looking for something to catch the interest, whenever I don't have something else to do. I can only replay Skyrim/Morrowind/Oblivion so many times :P ).
I think it is central to ESO's well-being to critique the developers when they change the game (or fail to change something).
But the negativity can be exhausting, so I vow to post 50/50 negativity and appreciation.
  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    • Is performance (bar swapping, blocking) still so clunky that even instance 4-man dungeons feel awkward?
    • Is Cyrodiil still "turn based, with a random chance of skills actually firing"?
    • Are people now confident that it will at least get better?

    Yes
    Yes
    No
  • SirLeeMinion
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    • Is performance (bar swapping, blocking) still so clunky that even instance 4-man dungeons feel awkward?
    • Is Cyrodiil still "turn based, with a random chance of skills actually firing"?
    • Are people now confident that it will at least get better?
    I find I'm on the wrong bar several times for any given dungeon. BGs are still challenging due to skills not firing. Cyrodiil may be okay for a few days while the event is running and extra campaigns are up. I'm not hearing people in chat exclaiming, "hey this is way better!" But, I'm also not seeing, "Our whole group DCd... again." either.
    ... for all its faults its still loads better than other MMOs I've tried/looked at

    This is why I'm still here, though I look for an alternative each and every week.
    (It's vacation time, and I finally have free time
    You should try it; it's only bandwidth and time to install it.

  • Nemesis7884
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    havent done cyrodiil so far but at least ic performance is quite good even with a lot of people...dunno if thats usually the case since im never here
  • gatekeeper13
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    Both today and yesterday, I tried to swap to backbar to use Vigor (key 4 backbar) during a 1vs1 fight, only to notice that I was actually spamming Evil Hunter (key 4 frontbar) because I just couldn't weapon swap. Ofc I got killed. Also got 1-shot today from another guy, who managed to use 5 different abilities in 0,5 secs when I couldn't even activate Momentum.

    I guess that answers your question.
  • Kaunas
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    I was wondering the exact same thing as the OP. Been lurking for 2 months now without posting anything, just checking to see the state of the game since ive been itching for some eso
  • Elsonso
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    • Is performance (bar swapping, blocking) still so clunky that even instance 4-man dungeons feel awkward?

    I am pretty sure that this will be the case, always and forever, so long as our ability to block or swap bars depends on information on the server that we do not yet know about. This will be a matter of adapting, until that time.
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  • TheHsN
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    If you play PVP it is not worth to come. It is its worst time now.
    If you go and play 12 trials. It is all buggy and laggy dont worth.
    If you go BG it is all lag and bug

    4 people Dungeon is ok not that much problem
    Open Word Single player play is working well. Sometimes NPCs can vanish But They come back if you wait long enough or restart the game


    If you furnishing it is working nice
    if you fishing its working nice
    If you like to spend money Crown Stores is awesome with a %1 chance to have items with the crown crates> But it is working smoothly
    Plays:
    Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
    Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka Templar - PvE
    Stamina Templar - PvP
    Magicka DK - PvE
    Stamina DK - PvE
  • madrab73
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    As long as you enjoy queueing for 2 hours to get in, get disconnected from server, then queueing for 2 hours to get in again. They've done an awesome job with the performance upgrade.
  • Nemesis7884
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    honestly i dont think its that bad - simply play ic and queue while you are there...thats what i do, you dont have to wait and can work towards similar goals
  • coercer02neb18_ESO
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    I will say this - its bad, but its not as bad as some people make it out to be. Some days I have no problems, sometimes I cant even bar swap or have to press ult 17 times. Just depends on what day you get.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    If you can play in low traffic hours - yes. Otherwise Cyro is just a circus for lulz with all the de-syncs and delays.
  • Woodenplank
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    I see. I've also been careful with how I view feedback on the forums. It's easy to imagine (and understand) that someone getting blasted in PVP because they couldn't even bar-swap, or because the lag was so bad their health hit zero before they saw what hit them, they might go onto the forums and vent very hotly, and give a screwed picture of performance across the board.

    The converse is true, of course, for people who have rare moments of smooth performance.
    I think I'll wait and see for now; MMOs do get so addictive, even with poor performance, and sometimes you gotta check yourself and say: "couldn't I be spending my time on something better/more fun?"
    I sadly think that's very often the case for ESO nowadays.
    I think it is central to ESO's well-being to critique the developers when they change the game (or fail to change something).
    But the negativity can be exhausting, so I vow to post 50/50 negativity and appreciation.
  • Kawiki
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    Maybe I am just lucky but I have had very few issues in 4 man dungeons. They continue to be fine for me.

    BGs have been really good until the Midyear Mayhem event started. Last night was the first time since the last update that I have noticed any issues.

    Cyrodiil I don’t bother with as it always seems to be a mess.
  • relentless_turnip
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    Yeah I have to concur it is running terribly... It is better than it was before mym, but never consistently.
  • Karmanorway
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    *Performance is still trash
    *Nothing works as it should
    *It will never improve, If it would then it
    would have years ago.

    I almost never go to cyro anymore, its beneath me to consciously torture myself like that 😊
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